Regardless of the company's politics the platform has been designed to make money even if it will kill both viewer and streamer experience. Yes it incentivizes chat interaction with the streamer but it immediately backpedals by forcing viewers to watch ads for 4-5 minutes randomly. Streamers can't even turn off ads they can only modify the frequency that viewers will recieve ads. Now you can say that they have the right to absolutely fuck people who don't pay money to them but at this point Twitch could work out a better way to make money rather than invest in the adblocker war they just choose not to. As other people have stated above Twitch is in the same place as crunchyroll where they're not innovating at all they're just trying to leech more and more out of people with a platform that is getting older and not better.I'm curious. Why do some people here hate Twitch when it comes to watching vtubers? Is it just because they hate Twitch as a company, or because of their UI, or something else?
I ask because I'm kind of a convert to Twitch. It is an objectively awful platform when it comes to business practices, moderation, etc. But I like it for how it lets you feel an active part of the stream instead of a passive observer. I find watching vtubers on Youtube to be a lot duller than on Twitch. I'm not saying Twitch is better; they're equally bad in different ways, just that I'm surprised how quickly Twitch features have become an almost indispensable part of my watching experience that I feel deprived of on Youtube.
1) They have a war on adblockers that's been going on for years, with intrusive ads that will run for 3 minutes per hour and interrupt live content.I'm curious. Why do some people here hate Twitch when it comes to watching vtubers? Is it just because they hate Twitch as a company, or because of their UI, or something else?
I ask because I'm kind of a convert to Twitch. It is an objectively awful platform when it comes to business practices, moderation, etc. But I like it for how it lets you feel an active part of the stream instead of a passive observer. I find watching vtubers on Youtube to be a lot duller than on Twitch. I'm not saying Twitch is better; they're equally bad in different ways, just that I'm surprised how quickly Twitch features have become an almost indispensable part of my watching experience that I feel deprived of on Youtube.
1) They have a war on adblockers that's been going on for years, with intrusive ads that will run for 3 minutes per hour and interrupt live content.
You don't get ads on channels you are subscribed to, or if you pay $15/mo for "Twitch Turbo"Why do I never get ads? I don't understand. I've never changed any settings, I just use default Brave and default uBlock Origin.
Do you only watch channels you're subscribed to?Why do I never get ads? I don't understand. I've never changed any settings, I just use default Brave and default uBlock Origin.
Is your VPN set to some third-world shithole?Why do I never get ads? I don't understand. I've never changed any settings, I just use default Brave and default uBlock Origin.
Is the grace of God upon you?Why do I never get ads? I don't understand. I've never changed any settings, I just use default Brave and default uBlock Origin.
Do you only watch channels you're subscribed to?
Is your VPN set to some third-world shithole?
Streamers can prevent a new viewer from getting pre-roll ads by using the Ad Management Tool and making sure they are running no less than 3 minutes of ads per hour during content.Mostly yes. Do raiders get ads too? Raids are 90% of the forces behind me seeing new channels I'm not subbed to.
Dude, what the fuck are goober googles?How are you this ass-chafed about goober googles in the year of our lord 2023? Is this a Mundane Matt alt? Go push a boulder dude
+pan-galactic gargleblaster+sunscreen+weed+hammer smashed against head+coma...Unlock Origin + ad blocker ultilmate + privacy possum + decentraleyes + Firefox + duckduckgo privacy essentials + vpn
Well, we lost several VTubers due to the current wokeness in the gaming industry (you know, the Wizard game) which stems from Gamergate. I think you can make the connection.
Also, correction, it's the 9th year after Gamergate, not 10th. My bad. Don't judge me during PRIDE MONTH! HATERS!
You don't get ads on channels you are subbed to. Streamers should be able to avoid ads being played to raiders in their settings, but you should eventually see ads on a channel you aren't subscribed to. It could also be ad laws in your country/region making ads less common.Mostly yes. Do raiders get ads too? Raids are 90% of the forces behind me seeing new channels I'm not subbed to.
I'm curious. Why do some people here hate Twitch when it comes to watching vtubers? Is it just because they hate Twitch as a company, or because of their UI, or something else?
I ask because I'm kind of a convert to Twitch. It is an objectively awful platform when it comes to business practices, moderation, etc. But I like it for how it lets you feel an active part of the stream instead of a passive observer. I find watching vtubers on Youtube to be a lot duller than on Twitch. I'm not saying Twitch is better; they're equally bad in different ways, just that I'm surprised how quickly Twitch features have become an almost indispensable part of my watching experience that I feel deprived of on Youtube.
For what it's worth, here's the actual streamer's tweet about the shit.Ok this guy acted like a total fag and people using the word " harrassment " are ultra fags. But this shit is fucking unprofessional you dont go in someones chat to argue because your new rules are shit wtf
5) From a broadcaster perspective, discoverability on Twitch does not exist. Anyone looking to stream as a career, go to any expert in the field and 100% the first piece of advice will be "You don't grow on twitch, you grow elsewhere that does have discoverability and transplant that audience into Twitch." or you try and network with streamers with bigger audiences than you and self-advertise while not making it obvious you're trying to self-advertise.
For what it's worth, here's the actual streamer's tweet about the shit.
"I just said fuck it and went to touch grass for a little bit. Whatever." And fun fact the staff apparently wasn't just some rando janny it was Twitch's Creative Director.
I have trouble reading the chat, but I do see how twitch would be fun for others. For me there's always crap covering the chat and it's to tinkery to get rid of itThe Twitch viewer experience/chat interaction is much better IMO, but almost everything else is objectively worse. ESPECIALLY their video player/VOD system. And IMO, it'll be much easier for Youtube to fix their viewer experience issues rather than Twitch to fix their video player.....and everything else.