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Sava's in the tub now.
Rin is entertaining by nature
He played a little Cello on stream. There are only streams of it, not sure if he privated it because of the impro or something else.
Spooder wife is live!
She has history, let's say.
(There's also that one pre-EN /jp/ post asking for pre-debut advice that's widely believed to be Calli, but no luck trying to find that again with the search terms this polluted. And I recall something vague about her participating in an /a/ sings thing, but I never looked into it)
Reimu and Enna egosearch(ed) on 4chan. Callie and Millie I'm pretty sure are, or rather were actual anons happily shitposting with the rest.
Clubhouse 51.
Sleepy has a really high CCV because of some Twitch Drops shit.
The britpill is spreading. More Rin acknowledgement brings me joy. That Animal Crossing stream was a blessed kind of cursed though.
Slightly related but it's cool to see how open the jewcorp CEO is. And good to hear that they're doing better than they thought.
Slightly related but it's cool to see how open the jewcorp CEO is. And good to hear that they're doing better than they thought.
I think he found a rendition of it from FF1 but playing it straight from the sheet wasn't hitting the same, so he just starting going by ear to try to recreate the 14 rendition. Not bad at it, but I kind of check out on music in streams.
I'm jumping ahead a few pages, but I tried to tag you when I made the post here (but couldn't). I'm really grateful for the info you shared tho, you deserve full credit.
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Ironmouse is planning a concert at 11th of Jan
And Amalee (Monarch) is doing IRL meet and greet, first time I see her face
And Amalee (Monarch) is doing IRL meet and greet, first time I see her face
I have no words. Rie is something special
That's less crazy than the stuff she believes now!
I've been reading vt because I have had off work for nearly an entire week and get bored (and got banned for like 3 days again, oh no! /s), there were probably ~2 schizos who were spamming those rrats that Bae and IRyS addressed, and people kept taking the bait so it was non-stop talk about it. I imagine there was similar retardation on twitter.
It really does confirm that IRyS is a big-time introvert though; she talked about how she slept until 10pm one day and how exhausted she is from going out nearly every day. The other Council girls are introverts too (except Bae), but I think IRyS can 'fake' being extroverted better (for example, I don't think she'd be afraid to go ask for napkins at a fast food place), but it completely wipes her out.
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Bae just needs to go 100% 'Straya mode call everyone cunts, and yell at anyone trying to culture shame her.
Waiting room is up for Mikeneko's new model reveal!
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3k is almost enough for me to want to tryout. But Semitic money...
There has GOT to be a catch. There just fucking HAS to be.
Honestly? Yes.
If you like your Aussie vtuber you will embrace her aussie speak. The chat during the part where she explained that it was a gesture of endearment was 100% "We know". So probably a couple of schizos and no skin randos that tuned on that stream got bored and wanted to start something.
I still contend that they are likely being artificially propped up in a multitude of ways. Financial, astroturf, etc.
I have no evidence to prove it. But it fits a profile in my model of the world with enough red flags that I'm comfortable expressing the opinion.
AFAIK the Talmud specifies that if you want to be a woman, you can. I had an acquaintance, a real annoying piece of shit, who wanted to date this guy so he became trans so that it was permissible, then he got his boyfriend to go trans and he went back to being not-trans so it was all kosher. It may go some way toward explaining why so many activists involved in pushing trans stuff are Jewish compared to other demographics.
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If it's /vt/ that explains it; there's a degenerate David Chapman-type on /vt/ who cannot shut up about wanting to impregnate Bae.
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If by artificially propped up you mean investment money then they obviously do. Israel is a small, wealthy place that has enough investment cash to prop something like that up, probably why he started with Hebrew speaking talents. The corpo obviously makes its own money now too with the EN gen They seem to be more than competitive with other small corpos.
You have to be female and just getting rid of your foreskin won't cut it.
Epicwall of text... (what happens when I dont post for a day).
I really enjoy her attituded. Its good to see a less reserved, loud type out there.
Honestly, good for him. Hope his masters degree actually helps him get better work. For me all it gave me was debt, 2 years of my life lost and a piece of paper that hasnt meant anything.
Additionally Pippa does get some donos from Streamlabs. I assume its about 5-10% total.
So she might be in IdolEN2?
Sava doubled in subs in the last month or two. Aletta has also impressed me with how much she has grown. I remember asking about Oceanne and why did she grow so much which someone mentioned the Youtube nuking her channel probably got many eyes on her. Aletta was about 10k subs behind. Now they are both tied in subs.
Damn this is huge. Hope she gets some more eyes on her. Both Sleepy and Wiskey are really great to watch.
Now for some hypothetical math exercise with some:
I would assume that something along the lines of $150,000 was invested in getting these girls off the ground (could be more, could be less just going off Miao numbers). These girls should be getting around $1,000 in Ad Revenue alone per channel. That's $5k A month. When it comes to superchats and memberships. If they stay as is, I could easily see them turning a profit solely on Ad Revenue after 3 years.
This is all hypothetical and I'm just assuming that they are only digging into the Ad revenue and not into Superchats or Memberships. I'm guessing that the additional amount goes into paying staff and managers. Sponsored streams, advertisement deals and merch will also come into play later on.
That's why you get the staff or talents to make it based on short clips. People do nominations and if one of the talents starts to appear way too much on the categories you curate the nominations a bit and pull them out of that category. That way you avoid shit like the Game Awards being known as "The Last of Us 2 Awards" a few years back or "God of War 2 Awards" this year. Or similar to how Crunchy Roll are known as "My Hero Academia Awards"
Yes, It is probably related to Idol Corp Gen 2 and people asking her if she's going to join Gen 2. Honestly, I think if she did apply, she would probably get in. As for the whole Gun thing. IdolHE has a few talents that have openly talked or mentioned guns in their streams. Hell Kattarina's opening screen and logo has guns.
Anya and Iofi are the girls that usually earn the least in Superchats. I assume it mostly has to do with them recieving a part of their donations through Streamlabs.
I really enjoy her attituded. Its good to see a less reserved, loud type out there.
She has an amazing voice. Honestly I think she has the best voice in Phase. Rie also has a good voice for singing.Her voice is very powerful too!Okay now i completelly understand Titanosaurus....
Sena officially a 3-view. Really glad for her.
Is there a way to know how many Memberships they have on Youtube? I know that the majority of Pippa's chatters are members
Parasocialism + Coombaiting is king when it comes to milking your audience.
Not sure how im involved in this. I don't know them other than I just follow all of the FlaVR talents on Twitter and like to reply to the shit they post. Can't remember the exact post but she mentioned her vtweeter arc going strong at 2 weeks. I just said something along the lines of Vtweeters do it for years and often attack others, burn bridges and virtue signal. If by some reason she felt identified by what I said or scared that I might know her identity, I really dont. Just generic comment on Vtweeters being a fucking plague (I know, I consider myself one).
Minna raided into calli, as Calli is her favorite vtuber iirc. Calli recognized her and FlaVR, and a lot of chat did as well. Timestamp 2:10:33:
Also in FlaVR news, the guy who ran the kuro_company account on twitter, "kani-san", has had to hand it off to someone else. Broke kayfabe and posted a heartfelt twitlonger:uh-Thank you m-minna vanilla... FlaVR? Are you sure? Really? From the famous vtuber group FlaVR.
Thank you so much for the raid. Hiii! Hi. What's up? Hello raiders. Thank you so much for the raid. Let's go.
FlaVR! Is that how you pronounce..? There's a story and a half.
But thank you very much, welcome raiders, welcome welcome everyone. We're just, we're just hanging out, just reading some supers.
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Kayfabe break. I’m about to start my last semester of my masters and really need to focus on that and getting a job. I didn’t really have the time to run this account last sem but I did it anyway, now I realllllly don’t have the time. I made this account 50 days ago and now seems like a good place to end my involvement and transfer the account to someone else (no it’s not Pippa). This whole thing was a lot of fun, pretty interesting experience, and I have way more respect for fishman now. It’s hard to believe that a bunch of randos came together on twitter and made something like this work. There’s a couple people I’d like to thank for stuff that I don’t think they get enough credit for.
@azeharaD- His fake drama tweets, mainly the Minna one, inspired me to make this account. Without that I don’t think I would’ve done this.
@Minna_Vanilla- aka 1st Minna was the first talent account and did an amazing job rp-ing as a predebut vtuber. Think they really helped set the tone for early FlaVR lore.
@DonnaDMerlot- Believe they were the 2nd person to join, made some funny tweets, also helped set a lot of FlaVR groundwork and lore.
@AzraArcane- Azra was the voice of Donna and they got a lot of underserved criticism. Originally they didn’t want to be credited, but Donna/Dounut wanted to give them a shoutout. Then some people seemed to take that as Azra trying to grift people, when she didn’t even want to be credited originally. If you liked Donna, give her a shot.
@TmpMinnaVanilla- aka 2nd Minna aka Temp is still pretty active and has been messing around with Live2D after learning it to make their own Minna model. Temp even helped Sena out with her model.
@FlavrSupport- Support contacted me out of the blue and asked if we wanted a website. He ended up buying two domains, got email set up, and managed to make a website in like 2 days. He also made a website for mpreg (https://mpreg.flavr.moe) which is a beautiful parody of another site. FlaVR makes up a lot of nonsense so I wouldn’t be surprised if people still don’t believe that pretty much everyone has an @flavr.moe email address, including the main contact one hello@flavr.moe. Support has also done a ton of behind the scenes stuff and has been working on a 2.0 version of the website with his “interns” that looks really nice.
@Bonbon_Sena- Ofc everyone knows how impressive Sena’s DIY model, but I really want to shout out stuff she does that isn’t as well acknowledged. Sena’s debut/1st stream had a deceptive amount of work put into things and as a result was one of the smoothest and funniest debuts I’ve seen. It’s wild how flawless and enjoyable that stream was. The fact that someone with no stream experience was able to pull that off can deal with a chat that active is crazy. Sena has also been doing a ton of work behind the scenes with FlaVR and has really helped keep everything together.
/fvr/- I know stroking 4chan’s ego is never a good move, but the small group keeping FlaVR’s general thread running have been churning out great designs and are really pushing the boundaries on how you can use NovelAi for vtubing. Thumbnail gen, memes, fan art, testing out alt designs, tips on how to get good image gens, and ultimately getting together a new gen of designs. Also seems to have been working as a great way to spread the word of FlaVR. New people trickle in there all the time and we’ve gotten a lot of great stuff as a result of it. Of course /fvr/ brings with it all of the usual /vt/ drawbacks and they have some truly awful takes sometimes, but on the whole /fvr/ has been a net good for us, and helped with some major things.
The Capippis- Early into FlaVR’s launch I was watching a non-pippa stream and the chuuba mentioned FlaVR and they said smth like “only Capippis would do something like that”. Idk if that was a compliment, but I took it as one about dedicated Capippis are to their projects. Capippis have a history of pretty high effort community driven projects and the bar just kept getting raised. Personally, and I’m sure this is true for a lot of other people at FlaVR, I really felt like I had to give this project my all because I know how much effort has gone into community stuff before me. I know it’s cringe but idk how many other communities FlaVR would’ve worked in. Not only do Capippis have the drive to do smth like this and help out, but Capippis also are receptive to a goofy idea like this. Think Pippa was in low 1000s when this started and the first couple FlaVR streams were getting 300+ ccv. That’s an insane chunk. So thank you for giving us a shot and for continuing to stick around and following the convoluted antics.
Pippa- Of course gotta thank the mold mama. It’s wild that she allowed for something like this to exist when it could’ve caused issues for her. But she simply stated that she wasn’t involved on twitter and let us do our thing while still giving us support. And of course without Pippa’s general encouragement of community stuff, none of us would’ve even thought about doing something as absurd as FlaVR. She’s done a great job of fostering a community that is willing to do weird stuff just for the fun of it, and a community that is willing to support these people and other aspiring creators. I know I just praised the Pippa community already but they wouldn’t be here if Pippa didn’t do such a great job building this community up.
There’s so many people who put in work on this project. We’re easily talking about 50+ people who made talent accounts, actively participated in FlaVR lore, or tweeted out fan art they made. When I started watching Pippa I always wanted to be involved in one of the big Capippi projects and I’m really happy I managed to work on one as unique and as interesting as FlaVR. I’m looking forward to seeing how FlaVR keeps evolving and the other projects that Capippis cook up in the future. Thanks for everything.
I'm sorry. I'm up past my bedtime and didn't realize how dumb what I wrote sounded.
Honestly, good for him. Hope his masters degree actually helps him get better work. For me all it gave me was debt, 2 years of my life lost and a piece of paper that hasnt meant anything.
Pippa blew up in the last 3 months of the year. If she continues the trend she could possibly be hitting 200-300 in superchats, easily. She also has a ton of shorts she seems to be releasing on a daily basis so thats some AD revenue (since all her Streams are demonetized) and add to that the membership numbers.
Additionally Pippa does get some donos from Streamlabs. I assume its about 5-10% total.
I doubt she lurks here. This place is fairly obscure (hell even some lurkers from the farms dont even know this place exists). More likely than not she means /vt/. Also given that she might have some knowledge about Pippa, she might be aware of FlaVR.
Hide your booze and cough sirup!!
Honestly holy shit i know Calli has been watching Pippa for a while now but with FlaVR recognition... I mean its pretty recent and probably the biggest thing Pippa did so far, but i wonder if Calli is an actual Capipi?
Also good on FlaVR anon to get a life! Wish him the very best. By the way, were you also contacted by the FlaVRsupport anon for discord?
I wold say her real average is closer to 17k and not 20k. That 32,281 from August seems like an anomaly and it deviates way too much from the norm. Don't think there has been a significant loss in superchat that could be attributed to unicorn spergout and it mostly has to do with ups and downs in the trend.
So she might be in IdolEN2?
The fact that Yuko is channeling big Gura energy and Gura has been MIA for a while possibly has helped her drastically.
Sava doubled in subs in the last month or two. Aletta has also impressed me with how much she has grown. I remember asking about Oceanne and why did she grow so much which someone mentioned the Youtube nuking her channel probably got many eyes on her. Aletta was about 10k subs behind. Now they are both tied in subs.
Wtf happened? Went from 200 daily to 1-2k. Thats a 900% increase.
Fuyo is amazing but its hard for me to catch her. I often watch her at work for a bit. I havent been able to catch Juna and Pochi due to timezones but I really liked Juna on her first few streams because she is a dork but at the same time very chill to listen to.
Damn this is huge. Hope she gets some more eyes on her. Both Sleepy and Wiskey are really great to watch.
I don't have any reason to doubt him. IdolHE was a bit of a test run on a smaller more controlled market. They didn't go as hard with them as they did for EN. All of the EN girls are over 20k in 2 months of streaming. Some of the smaller corpos have talents that take over a year to hit the 10k mark. A Very Good return on investment for a good/profitable business is usually around 2-3 years. The average is 4-5. As long as the talents are fine with their growth and their share of the revenue if they keep doing this for 2 years, just on Ad Revenue and Memberships the company should start making a profit.
Now for some hypothetical math exercise with some:
I would assume that something along the lines of $150,000 was invested in getting these girls off the ground (could be more, could be less just going off Miao numbers). These girls should be getting around $1,000 in Ad Revenue alone per channel. That's $5k A month. When it comes to superchats and memberships. If they stay as is, I could easily see them turning a profit solely on Ad Revenue after 3 years.
This is all hypothetical and I'm just assuming that they are only digging into the Ad revenue and not into Superchats or Memberships. I'm guessing that the additional amount goes into paying staff and managers. Sponsored streams, advertisement deals and merch will also come into play later on.
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