General Vtuber Discussion (V1)

[Jolted Cookies]

ORANGE CHICKEN LOVERS! THOSE FREE FROM THE USUAL ROOM!! LEND ME YOUR EARS!!!

Can any of you confirm If this post is legit and from a Kiara fan Discord or whatever?
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Payments will be more Kiara and Orange Woman is good postings here!

Also a Kiara meme for your trouble:
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It happened in Amelia Watson's fancord a little while ago.
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Seriously, they're literally giving Pippa more views - And Pippa wonders why the algorithm is favoring her right now.

 

[GOD'S STRONGEST BUILDERBEAR]

Someones wished on monkey paw for pippa to get big


I hope youll wish to institutionalize capipallists and fishman in mental institution next time please

 

[Johnny Jambalaya]

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........why?

@Reticule when he gets ten minutes alone in a room with Sakana.

 

[thhrang]

@Reticule when he gets ten minutes alone in a room with Sakana.

Isn't this what we all would do?

 

[Azehara]

Why is """doxxing""" banned in /vt/ anyways? I thought that hacker4chan is a place where the evil russian trolls defame others and harass young children?

Because /vt/ jannies and reddit jannies are one in the same.

Wont she get fucked for using JUSTICE and Madeon as background music?

It is possible but she doesn't care. I think at most the video may get a copyright notice which limits the visibility (gets blocked in some countries and it gets suppressed by algorythm). Also all the revenue from ads will get redirected to whoever put the claim.

I looked up her spicy stuff, and I just have to wonder what possesses these people to debase themselves in such a way. It's one thing if you're the sexiest 10/10 out there, but this woman is average at best and I would rather tear my own nails from my fingers than give my hard earned money just to see that plain Jane in the nude. She says all that degenerate stuff about being a cockslut and it just really bothers me on some deeper level.


What could you have possibly said to get banned? I've never been banned despite the fact that I sometimes just shit on everybody whenever I go there. Surely it wasn't just for making fun of unicorns lol. That happens all the time.

Are you this naive? I haven't really checked her out nor do I know what she looks like but I have seen less-than-average girls with less-than-average looks/physiques still making bank by selling porn. This is why the Twitch Thott thing is so huge. People are fucking simps.

I've never even used NovelAI or anything like it and knew about how the seed thing works, I'm surprised Pippa didn't with how much time she spends on it.

Sad since the seeds are a very good way to refine what you get.

ORANGE CHICKEN LOVERS! THOSE FREE FROM THE USUAL ROOM!! LEND ME YOUR EARS!!!

Can any of you confirm If this post is legit and from a Kiara fan Discord or whatever?
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Possibly the same femboy admins/mods that run the fan channels. Would be hilarious to see if she gets blacklisted from all the Holo-fan discords and if they do it at the same time or not.

I can kinda get why she was shoahed from the kiara cord, i have a feeling the asuka wrestling shit was a factor in that

That shit was over a year ago and like 4 or 5 retards lost their shit over it. Out of all of the shit she has said, this was super tame and i was really impressed at how much shit people gave her for it especially since it was just a random comment that 99% of the fandom would've missed the context of.

Welp Pippa gave use free reign for these characters, time to put Lolime in contention for VA tan.

I have been playing with NovelAI for over a month. Some of those designs look nice, I might play around with them later to see what i get.

Yeah, that's my best guess. If the fancords aren't just ran by alts of the same 5 dicksplitters lusting for a crumb of power, at the very least they're very good friends with each other.

Probably the same people managing or they share mod teams. So one implementing a new rule might lead to the others doing the same. Nousagi didnt get hit so I guess he still hasnt talked about the Asuka cosplay.

So I've been looking at the stuff posted about doxing in the last few (dozen) pages. Going to post this here for instant visibility and over in the forum discussion thread. I want feedback on this analysis. Both practical and legal, if you have such knowledge.

Spoiler: Doxing

So we've had an interesting event occur recently. In the last few days, user @DrStupid posted a stunningly comprehensive and in-depth analysis of vtuber personality Amanogawa Shiina's internet presence. This was generally well-received by the community and few if any people had issues with it.

However, it was later highlighted to me that some other people had done similar things on the homeland, except they went a step further and attempted to directly access things like website profiles, Gmail accounts and other forms of personal identification associated with the personality they were investigating.

There has been much debate about this, all of which I appreciate. It has led me to refine my previous understandings of the subject and lay down some more well-defined rules about what is and what is not acceptable to post here.

It is acceptable to post any publicly available information that is explicitly accessible without needing to resort to non-public or private sources.

For example, if a vtuber accidentally reveals their Discord username on screen during a stream, that has become public information. It was shared on a public medium, to a live audience. Regardless of whether or not it was intentional, it is now public knowledge. Post-facto efforts to delete the information are irrelevant.

In the above scenario, it would be perfectly fine to join a public Discord server you knew the revealed account had posted on previously and catalog their messages, because, again, it is public information.

However, if someone were to take that publicly available information and use it to try and derive more private information, the waters become muddier. In other words, if you used their Discord information to try and log into that account or any connected accounts, then extrapolate details about the user's phone number or email addresses from the security prompts, that is illegal. You are deliberately attempting to breach their account security, and manipulating measures put in place to protect their identity in order to compromise said identity. You have moved beyond the realm of passively gathering data the vtuber publicly submitted (intentionally or not) and into the realm of actively trying to compromise their privacy.

Attempts have been made to defend this behavior, along the lines of 'it's their fault for not having better OpSec'. To that I simply reply; 'when was the last time you heard a rapist win a case by claiming his victim was totally asking for it?'

I never cared much about names, or face reveals. Also given the nature of Vtubing and how fast people switch accounts, change names and change models, having that information available is always a good idea. That said, shit starts to get a bit retarded when you start posting addresses and whatnot especially when its someone who isn't a lolcow nor are they doing illegal or highly questionable shit.

She can drop $3200 on two 4090s at the same time.
She can't drop more than $0 on some paper fucking plates, or comfy shoes.

Because one is for her work and the other is for herself and she clearly takes her work and streaming ability more seriously than her health or well-being. It's basically the same as the people that care for others and help everyone but they live in misery because all of their focus is on others and they don't really care about themselves.

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From a marketing standpoint, I think Pippa should've raided Lilypichu. Not much overlap in audiences and that would probably get a reaction on stream and drum some attention towards who she is by the people watching.

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This popped up. Fillian speedrunning Twitter cancellation.

I don't really watch her as she is a react andy but she does have some gems.

 

[That Chuuba Enjoyer]

So I've been looking at the stuff posted about doxing in the last few (dozen) pages. Going to post this here for instant visibility and over in the forum discussion thread. I want feedback on this analysis. Both practical and legal, if you have such knowledge.

I guess my question on the matter, is DrStupid post on the ancestral site fine here?
(idk if he altered the version here in AS or not, so just going with the original)
(https://kiwifarms.net/threads/virtual-youtubers.69525/post-12684182)

I know you briefly discussed it in your post but just wanted to confirm some parts of it. From what I gather, a lot of the information was collected from archive sites, reviewing posts made by other users that had eye accounts or details, and autism in going through roommate's history.

I guess what I'm trying to get at. Is it okay to present stuff like that here as long as the information isn't collected through means where you have got to literally brute force it? Like using technical loopholes in getting into private accounts for information that isn't already out there or other means where you force a way to obtain that information if that makes sense?

The reason why I ask these things and bring them up, is because I do enjoy learning about the history of people, especially those in spheres that I enjoy. There are not many other places out there where you can discuss or present to others stuff about Vtubers that you enjoy. Like Gura having a history of doing Vtubing and VA work before Hololive or the GGN girls being actually from Canada and having a history of doing Idol stuff in JP and who do dance streams on Twitch from time to time. If it wasn't for this site for allowing such talk, I wouldn't have known the GGN still do things out there and a history of entertainment.

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Lastly,

Also, the RL pic of Shiina is from her old roommate's twitter account when she was posting about working out and her height after she was teased by viewers during one stream. (I'll find the post in question on the ancestral site if it doesn't keep dying on me right now.)

I did find more context about how that RL image of Shirara came to be. It was connected to the time when Shirara was in middle of two twitter debates about the use of loli vtubers, and also criticism on body standards of Vtubers. Well during this time, she decided to post the pic of her body to show that she does have a small figure and to end the twitter fighting that was occurring.

Spoiler: Tweet Screenshot

Also Shadow makes appearance in these Tweets which I didn't know they engaged each other prior too.

(Archive of Tweet)

 

[MornLurker]

So I've been looking at the stuff posted about doxing in the last few (dozen) pages. Going to post this here for instant visibility and over in the forum discussion thread. I want feedback on this analysis. Both practical and legal, if you have such knowledge.

Spoiler: Doxing

So we've had an interesting event occur recently. In the last few days, user @DrStupid posted a stunningly comprehensive and in-depth analysis of vtuber personality Amanogawa Shiina's internet presence. This was generally well-received by the community and few if any people had issues with it.

However, it was later highlighted to me that some other people had done similar things on the homeland, except they went a step further and attempted to directly access things like website profiles, Gmail accounts and other forms of personal identification associated with the personality they were investigating.

There has been much debate about this, all of which I appreciate. It has led me to refine my previous understandings of the subject and lay down some more well-defined rules about what is and what is not acceptable to post here.

It is acceptable to post any publicly available information that is explicitly accessible without needing to resort to non-public or private sources.

For example, if a vtuber accidentally reveals their Discord username on screen during a stream, that has become public information. It was shared on a public medium, to a live audience. Regardless of whether or not it was intentional, it is now public knowledge. Post-facto efforts to delete the information are irrelevant.

In the above scenario, it would be perfectly fine to join a public Discord server you knew the revealed account had posted on previously and catalog their messages, because, again, it is public information.

However, if someone were to take that publicly available information and use it to try and derive more private information, the waters become muddier. In other words, if you used their Discord information to try and log into that account or any connected accounts, then extrapolate details about the user's phone number or email addresses from the security prompts, that is illegal. You are deliberately attempting to breach their account security, and manipulating measures put in place to protect their identity in order to compromise said identity. You have moved beyond the realm of passively gathering data the vtuber publicly submitted (intentionally or not) and into the realm of actively trying to compromise their privacy.

Attempts have been made to defend this behavior, along the lines of 'it's their fault for not having better OpSec'. To that I simply reply; 'when was the last time you heard a rapist win a case by claiming his victim was totally asking for it?'

I agree with most of the points brought up here. There's nothing good to be gained over excessive doxxing unless you're an obsessed schizo and wanted to attract your fellows (see: the japs vtuber doxx site), surface-level doxxing (past internet persona etc.) is the most I go for because I wanted to always have a heads up in case my favorite graduates from their 2D life. As for on-stream yabs, while it automatically becomes public information due to how the internet is, I think it's still important to have a little filter on what info is worth documenting and ones that are better buried because it might affect their irl opsec being used by bad actors or the same schizos (there's no such thing as perfect opsec even after making sure you're well prepared, sometimes a little paranoia is what you needed to stay safe)

Of course there are different opinions once we go on a person-per-person basis, but this is my general take on the issue.

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newsposting tax, 8 HolostarsJP members will be having new outfit relays for the remaining weeks of November themed after the fall/winter season.
First on the lineup will be Hanasaki Miyabi (11/15) and Yukoku Roberu (11/17)



I know this is kinda overdue but it's a good thing they keep pumping out new content for the boys lately after they started getting more traction although not as comparable with the girls, then again with male VTubing market (in JP) isn't as saturated as the girls I'd say whatever growth they're having now is much better than the hellish first year they have to put up with. You really have to be there to feel the growth they're having now is still worth celebrating

 

[Sven]

ORANGE CHICKEN LOVERS! THOSE FREE FROM THE USUAL ROOM!! LEND ME YOUR EARS!!!

Can any of you confirm If this post is legit and from a Kiara fan Discord or whatever?
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Please tell me she is the only tuber banned being discussed on that discord, like shine the brightest spotlight you can on the rabbit I'm sure that will make her harder to notice. Are we sure KFP isn't trying to boost her numbers with this move, I've seen at least 1 Kiara watcher around Pippa's chat.

 

[vestars20]

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........why?

Sexual repression.

Happens all the time

 

[2DUM4U]

HYPE


EDIT:
Hehe

 

[Crush]

Probably my favourite NijiEN solo original so far.

based

for me I think (at least of the ones I’ve heard) it’s Tsunami. that’s such a banger

 

[Kourai]

Edit: Samurai toot


Her streams are still capped at 1 hour for her health. She announced that she would be announcing her original song soon. While I'm happy that there's progress on that front, I have no idea why she needed to do this lol.

 

[Faceless Waifu]

If you look closely you'll realize the /k/fp are the mods. Daily gun chat is a thing in that place.

I will not be surprised if one of the mod there is making a Kiara-themed FGC-9 before talking about wanting to use said creation to shoot the glowies, the antis, and the takamori haters.

I mean, it is possible.

 

[No Name]

Finally got around to making an account here after lurking in the ever drying homeland.
Nice to see many things haven't changed, Nolan still being the best of us, everybody realizing for the ***th time that fancords are gay and stupid and people liveposting stream reactions.

On the subject of doxxing, anything that can be used to scrape actual info (place of residence for instance) should be avoided like the plague. Roommate info and similar stuff should just be kept hidden behind spoiler tags, majority of antis/doxxers have the brain capacity of a sea cucumber, if they can't find an easy Google link then they'll settle for whatever rrat reddit posts provide.

 

[The Peanut Gallery]

Please tell me she is the only tuber banned being discussed on that discord, like shine the brightest spotlight you can on the rabbit I'm sure that will make her harder to notice. Are we sure KFP isn't trying to boost her numbers with this move, I've seen at least 1 Kiara watcher around Pippa's chat.

Didn't Pippa reveal Kiara is one of the vtubers her community overlaps with on her analytics stream?

I will not be surprised if one of the mod there is making a Kiara-themed FGC-9 before talking about wanting to use said creation to shoot the glowies, the antis, and the takamori haters.

I mean, it is possible.

I wouldn't be surprised if it's because they got assmad for what Pippa said about gun hobbists a few streams ago.

 

[Een Gevolg]

Favorited; that was incredible. Stellar art, fantastic lyrics, terrific visuals, phenomenal singing, and wonderful instrumental.

Honestly, the Autotune-ish filter that's on most of the song completely ruins it for me, and I'm not a fan of how the vocal goes, probably one of my least favorite originals so far. For some reason it feels a lot more grating than it felt with Blue Sugar, maybe it just doesn't work as well with this track. The background track is definitely nice, though. Personal favorite would still have to be Enna's Wish of this Songbird, and even her shitpost song is pretty high up.



As far as doxing, I don't really mind it going either way, I just don't see the purpose of doing it in the first place. All it seems to do is expose info to more toxic parties, and does the dirty work for SEAtards to take and spread everywhere for clout like that Hololive Historian dipshit, given that they're brainlets obsessed with "forbidden information".

 

[Svarog]

Mumei singing after destroying humanity.


Hologra

 

[AmpleChip]

re:doxxing, the only thing I care about and want to find out are their faces. Every time one is dug out it feels like Indiana Jones discovering the holy grail.
Going any further is stupid, why would I want to know someone's home address, phone number or email? Or access any of it? That's schizo anti territory. Leading to real life troubles for the vtuber herself and maybe even legal repercussions for the schizos.
Have fun finding out what they look like and leave it at that.

 

[Simp]

ORANGE CHICKEN LOVERS! THOSE FREE FROM THE USUAL ROOM!! LEND ME YOUR EARS!!!

Can any of you confirm If this post is legit and from a Kiara fan Discord or whatever?
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Looking into it the reason seems to be some Pippa fans that posted and discussed Pippa streams that had contend forbidden in the discord. So the ban seems more targeted at the fans then Pippa herself. Maybe. The Mods do talk to the other Fancord Mods. So maybe they where influenced by the Amecord. I don’t care for Pippa but I too think banning her and not just the fans that can’t follow the rules is kinda lazy.

 

[2DUM4U]

Step 1: Right click
Step 2: Check "Loop"
Step 3: Die happy.



These compilations are actually easier to make than you'd think, as long as you enjoy the stream you're cutting from. I learned that when I made my Vesper video.