General Thread v5 Guys: MariMari_EN Edition

[CalciumAnimal]

that's nota snake that's a clock!

 

[Kamehameheilhitler]

Mint coffee is generally a good flavor there are worse idea's.

it amuses me how snakes are often symbolic of motherhood and protection but every single vtuber snake is a whore or degenerate without fail.

Are you saying Sara Nagare is a hoe?

 

[agility_]

that's nota snake that's a clock!

Sometimes she calls herself a crow too. It's hard to keep up at times (hah)

 

[CalciumAnimal]

Are you saying Sara Nagare is a hoe?

9 hours of desert bus.

Degenerate.

 

[dkn2038]

nemo would really need a lot of fixing after the psychological damage she received at eien, but has potential

what do you think guys?

 

[Euthyphro]

Penny would be a good pick at least...

Speaking of Penny, neutral(?) announcement soon:

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Surprised she's been in her VTweeter arc for so long, it felt like she had something lined up after graduating as Blue Pippa.

 

[God's Saddest Tattletail]

Speaking of Penny, neutral(?) announcement soon:


Surprised she's been in her VTweeter arc for so long, it felt like she had something lined up after graduating as Blue Pippa.

F is for Fase Connect, she's joining after all!

 

[The Proctor]

Nyaru is or was on some kind of board for OffKai as well and could have stepped up for Kirsche but did nothing to help Kirsche.

She was staff coordinator, aka directly in charge of the '''''volunteers'''' who dilated about Kirsche to get her removed.

 

[Hff201]

Moving this here because I think this conversation is fitting for corpos as a whole rather than just Phase.

Let me just say, it's not just Clio, it's Phase as a whole. I am bombarded by their streams and clips before I recently subbed to most of them. Some pajeet in YT must've loved Phase Invaders and started hacking the algo to feature them. I think it's because of Clio getting raided so often that it does something to the algo. Who knew it'd only take a hag who streams on dead hours for their incline. Corpos should take note of this if it is true.

I think stream times are something corpos should be considering as early as recruitment, since overlap has been a problem in Phase for years, while the dead hours have only recently started to get filled in. Some overlap is going to be inevitable when you're working with independent contractors who mostly have other commitments, but it's counterintuitive to have the talents cannibalising each other's audiences by being on at the same time, especially if they have a similar appeal (Pippa and Jelly, looking at you).

This may seem like a bizarre example to bring up, but a recent fascination of mine has been Keemstar's "Lolcow Universe", a podcast network spawned off of he and Boogie's Lolcow Live channel.

Now, to be clear: the content associated with it is the most godawful shit you could imagine, it's a bunch of no-name retards sperging out while screaming about the other hosts' prior spergouts. Imagine Internet Bloodsports, but they can't say Yamanba words, and the scripted parts are even more insultingly obvious. But the thing is, people are engaged, there are fans watching this shit all day, and that's because the streams are scheduled in a way that allows success from the more popular shows to trickle down to the newer ones. When one stream ends the next one starts. They never overlap. They have a rewind show. It seems very carefully designed so that even if people are primarily fans of one of the shows, they'll stick around for the others.

This isn't the kind of thing you could recreate 1:1 with vtuber agencies for a handful of practical reasons and the fact it would be criminal to tell a good yapper that their timeslot is up (fuck you, archivebro), but it does go to show how beneficial properly planned out group schedules can be. If I recall correctly having designated start times was something Idol tried at one point which one of the few actually productive things Aviel contributed, and from what I remember it seemed to work out for their first EN gen (until his mismanagement pissed the talents off enough that they'd go AWOL for weeks at a time, obviously).

Moving established streamers' schedules around wouldn't be smart this far in, but any new corpos (or existing corpos launching new branches) should probably take the time to sit down with the talents to plan out a schedule as a group, because that'd probably benefit all of them over time.

 

[God's Saddest Tattletail]

Moving this here because I think this conversation is fitting for corpos as a whole rather than just Phase.


I think stream times are something corpos should be considering as early as recruitment, since overlap has been a problem in Phase for years, while the dead hours have only recently started to get filled in. Some overlap is going to be inevitable when you're working with independent contractors who mostly have other commitments, but it's counterintuitive to have the talents cannibalising each other's audiences by being on at the same time, especially if they have a similar appeal (Pippa and Jelly, looking at you).

This may seem like a bizarre example to bring up, but a recent fascination of mine has been Keemstar's "Lolcow Universe", a podcast network spawned off of he and Boogie's Lolcow Live channel.

Now, to be clear: the content associated with it is the most godawful shit you could imagine, it's a bunch of no-name retards sperging out while screaming about the other hosts' prior spergouts. Imagine Internet Bloodsports, but they can't say Yamanba words, and the scripted parts are even more insultingly obvious. But the thing is, people are engaged, there are fans watching this shit all day, and that's because the streams are scheduled in a way that allows success from the more popular shows to trickle down to the newer ones. When one stream ends the next one starts. They never overlap. They have a rewind show. It seems very carefully designed so that even if people are primarily fans of one of the shows, they'll stick around for the others.

This isn't the kind of thing you could recreate 1:1 with vtuber agencies for a handful of practical reasons and the fact it would be criminal to tell a good yapper that their timeslot is up (fuck you, archivebro), but it does go to show how beneficial properly planned out group schedules can be. If I recall correctly having designated start times was something Idol tried at one point which one of the few actually productive things Aviel contributed, and from what I remember it seemed to work out for their first EN gen (until his mismanagement pissed the talents off enough that they'd go AWOL for weeks at a time, obviously).

Moving established streamers' schedules around wouldn't be smart this far in, but any new corpos (or existing corpos launching new branches) should probably take the time to sit down with the talents to plan out a schedule as a group, because that'd probably benefit all of them over time.

Just going off personal experience, I think long streams are another huge plus. For the new invaders Clio is obvious, but Mari has some pretty long streams and Sleepy's long Dark Souls streams get a huge CCV boost. Maybe I'm wrong and people just love watching souls games, but in general YouTube LOVES recommending me VTubers that are live but not so much the VoDs. If I see a VTuber once and think "oh I like her she's cute" and push subscribe, I almost never get recommended the VoD of a stream I miss. I'm not sure how it tracks for dedicated viewers (any marathon streamer fans get fomo from not watching all 11 hours of a stream? Genuine question) but for attracting new viewers and retaining them? I definitely think long streams are a big plus. And that's without taking into consideration visibility on Twitch, getting more raids, etc.

 

[RestlessRain]

Just gonna go out and say that Rosemi is NOT going to graduate and she is NOT going to join Phase Connect

 

[frz]

Moving this here because I think this conversation is fitting for corpos as a whole rather than just Phase.


I think stream times are something corpos should be considering as early as recruitment, since overlap has been a problem in Phase for years, while the dead hours have only recently started to get filled in. Some overlap is going to be inevitable when you're working with independent contractors who mostly have other commitments, but it's counterintuitive to have the talents cannibalising each other's audiences by being on at the same time, especially if they have a similar appeal (Pippa and Jelly, looking at you).

This may seem like a bizarre example to bring up, but a recent fascination of mine has been Keemstar's "Lolcow Universe", a podcast network spawned off of he and Boogie's Lolcow Live channel.

Now, to be clear: the content associated with it is the most godawful shit you could imagine, it's a bunch of no-name retards sperging out while screaming about the other hosts' prior spergouts. Imagine Internet Bloodsports, but they can't say Yamanba words, and the scripted parts are even more insultingly obvious. But the thing is, people are engaged, there are fans watching this shit all day, and that's because the streams are scheduled in a way that allows success from the more popular shows to trickle down to the newer ones. When one stream ends the next one starts. They never overlap. They have a rewind show. It seems very carefully designed so that even if people are primarily fans of one of the shows, they'll stick around for the others.

This isn't the kind of thing you could recreate 1:1 with vtuber agencies for a handful of practical reasons and the fact it would be criminal to tell a good yapper that their timeslot is up (fuck you, archivebro), but it does go to show how beneficial properly planned out group schedules can be. If I recall correctly having designated start times was something Idol tried at one point which one of the few actually productive things Aviel contributed, and from what I remember it seemed to work out for their first EN gen (until his mismanagement pissed the talents off enough that they'd go AWOL for weeks at a time, obviously).

Moving established streamers' schedules around wouldn't be smart this far in, but any new corpos (or existing corpos launching new branches) should probably take the time to sit down with the talents to plan out a schedule as a group, because that'd probably benefit all of them over time.

I am obligated to disagree with everything you said because you mention keemstar
They are called dead hours for a reason. The viewership aint there. Most EN scrubs tend to watch from 8 pm - 1 am. A.k.a time children comes home from school/office worker get off job.
It might be doable to divide 5 hours across 5 streamers, but when you have 20+ there is a lot of problem with the model.
For the lolcow universe shit, sure, you can have some pajeet/brownfeets watching 24/7 just because they love slurping over that drama shit. But brown feets don't usually convert to actual sales.
Holo actually tries this with Justice, idk if it was enforced or the girls just agree to do it themselves, they went from NA hours all the way to JP hours. It actually does ok. But it's also like... hololive.

Just going off personal experience, I think long streams are another huge plus. For the new invaders Clio is obvious, but Mari has some pretty long streams and Sleepy's long Dark Souls streams get a huge CCV boost. Maybe I'm wrong and people just love watching souls games, but in general YouTube LOVES recommending me VTubers that are live but not so much the VoDs. If I see a VTuber once and think "oh I like her she's cute" and push subscribe, I almost never get recommended the VoD of a stream I miss. I'm not sure how it tracks for dedicated viewers (any marathon streamer fans get fomo from not watching all 11 hours of a stream? Genuine question) but for attracting new viewers and retaining them? I definitely think long streams are a big plus. And that's without taking into consideration visibility on Twitch, getting more raids, etc.

Can confirm same, youtube recommend live streams and not vod. I think I have been recommended a few odd 3D streams though, but maybe they are <1 hour so youtube-kun thought they are normal video premieres and not livestream VODs. Cuz normal videos are that long these days.
But @Hff201 point is keeping a system where 1 person raid into another and keeping stream uniformly at exactly 2 hours everyday.
Also people love Dark Souls game.

 

[NeneLOVE]

I am obligated to disagree with everything you said because you mention keemstar
They are called dead hours for a reason. The viewership aint there. Most EN scrubs tend to watch from 8 pm - 1 am. A.k.a time children comes home from school/office worker get off job.
It might be doable to divide 5 hours across 5 streamers, but when you have 20+ there is a lot of problem with the model.
For the lolcow universe shit, sure, you can have some pajeet/brownfeets watching 24/7 just because they love slurping over that drama shit. But brown feets don't usually convert to actual sales.
Holo actually tries this with Justice, idk if it was enforced or the girls just agree to do it themselves, with Raora going all the way into JP hours. It actually does ok. But it's also like... hololive.

Can confirm same, youtube recommend live streams and not vod. I think I have been recommended a few odd 3D streams though, but maybe they are <1 hour so youtube-kun thought they are normal video premieres and not livestream. Cuz normal videos are that long these days.
But @Hff201 point is keeping a system where 1 person raid into another and keeping stream uniformly at exactly 2 hours everyday.
Also people love Dark Souls game.

The amount of rrating and schizophrenia in the EN market clearly shows a good portion of EN viewers are brown aka SEA, so there are no dead hours outside of europe

 

[RestlessRain]

I am obligated to disagree with everything you said because you mention keemstar
They are called dead hours for a reason. The viewership aint there. Most EN scrubs tend to watch from 8 pm - 1 am. A.k.a time children comes home from school/office worker get off job.
It might be doable to divide 5 hours across 5 streamers, but when you have 20+ there is a lot of problem with the model.
For the lolcow universe shit, sure, you can have some pajeet/brownfeets watching 24/7 just because they love slurping over that drama shit. But brown feets don't usually convert to actual sales.
Holo actually tries this with Justice, idk if it was enforced or the girls just agree to do it themselves, they went from NA hours all the way to JP hours. It actually does ok. But it's also like... hololive.

Can confirm same, youtube recommend live streams and not vod. I think I have been recommended a few odd 3D streams though, but maybe they are <1 hour so youtube-kun thought they are normal video premieres and not livestream. Cuz normal videos are that long these days.
But @Hff201 point is keeping a system where 1 person raid into another and keeping stream uniformly at exactly 2 hours everyday.
Also people love Dark Souls game.

You say that there isn't an audience in dead hours time but as of this post, Clio is streaming to 2.7K people and it's somewhere between 1AM and 4AM in mainland USA, and 2.7K CCV is great numbers for Phase Connect.

 

[NeneLOVE]

You say that there isn't an audience in dead hours time but as of this post, Clio is streaming to 2.7K people and it's somewhere between 1AM and 4AM in mainland USA, and 2.7K CCV is great numbers for Phase Connect.

Is it that strange?

 

[RestlessRain]

Is it that strange?

Hololive talents don't hate brown people enough, apparently.

 

[NeneLOVE]

Hololive talents don't hate brown people enough, apparently.

those are filthy nips, no engrireshu

 

[kushami tasukaru]

Ajara Bibi (LV13) is playing the original Chrono Trigger on SFC.

She recently finished the SFC version of FF6.

Re:AcT's Anya Kumori is singing.

Most likely will stop her stream and redirect her audience to Kulaku Lie's birthday stream.

Re:AcT's Kulaku Lie is celebrating her 20th birthday with a 3D live at 8PM JST.

Guests include Hoshifuru Ameru (independent, at one point joined the now defunct IseV) as well as Re:AcT members Nekono Yukino, Lisa Makoh, Usuwa Suu, and fellow Melty RIP member Tsukushi Aria (not sure if she's going to be there live, still on long hiatus recovering from surgery).
There's also a Melty RIP cover premiere after the live.


AZKi visiting Shigure Ui's home prefecture of Mie in Geoguessr.

Anya - is a Japanese woman living in Indonesia. Do not be fooled, she is Japanese. She also knows English and Indonesian. Here's some clips that proves Anya is JP:

Nah, Neoporte's Konkon Aria basically outed her as non-native. Techical terms and slang are the way to detect outsiders.

 

[VSoyBoy]

The rules for Rosemi are similar to those for Twisty.
Every time someone rrats that she's graduating, she signs another 6 month extension to her contract. Additionally, every day someone phasebeggs her, she blocks one of their members on twitter.

 

[shipmate]

Joru is continuing her Megaman project with 11


Koro is getting clowned at Balatro


Clio is trying to make Lia in Kenshi