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God's Strongest Dragoon

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Nowadays, the talents need to fear displeasing Sakana's wishes vastly more than Sakana needs to fear displeasing the wishes of his talents. Phase is now big enough that any two or three big names could leave and the company would still be perfectly viable.
You say this but we just saw two talents go MIA for an extraordinarily long time with little to no repercussions. Saya was incredibly inconsistent and would only stream a few times a month and then stopped streaming altogether several months leading up to her graduation, after which she continued to support not just the talents but the company. Hina was gone for several months, had a return stream, and then promptly disappear for half a year with the company unable to contact her for a significant amount of that time. What was her punishment for displeasing Sakana? Return stream with a song cover to go along with it.
Phase is now big enough that any two or three big names could leave and the company would still be perfectly viable.
This is not true in the slightest. If Pippa and Tenma leave in a messy way, it would be a Selen-level event that would instantly cripple Phase, becoming destined for a future of unending decay and deterioration if it doesn't kill the company outright.
That's the incident I was referring to. Keyword there being almost. He eventually realized he didn't have the power to simply go on without listening to the demands of his talents.



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What the fuck are you even talking about? This isn't some suggested concept, this is established info regarding Phase Connect. Do you want me to just start inventing lore regarding your favorite indies and demanding you accept it as canon without any verifiable proof? Sounds retarded right?
 

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Azehara crying as his 14th goon session in the past 4 hours will be his last one as his phone's battery dies. If only he charged his phone before the power outage.
 

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Make way for the dancing chocolate princess of V4Mirai! Serina Maiko is starting chapter 4 of renowned astroturfed mascot horror slop, Poppy's Playtime:
I keep forgetting that she's supposed to be black and not gyaru.

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He just has to ration his backup power for a while. Goon, but goon wisely.
 

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Maybe those bald midgets in the mountains knew something we didn't when they talked about karmic balance.
 

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Maybe those bald midgets in the mountains knew something we didn't when they talked about karmic balance.
One of these days I hope we get situation where India is unable to access the internet for a time and everyone online realizes how fucking abhorrent those creatures made everything and agrees to permaban them from the internet.
 

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I think you're forgetting a rather important factor; power dynamics. When it first started up, Phase was an unknown company with no prospects of success in a sea of other unknown companies with no prospects. When talents became successful in spite of Sakana's efforts, they and their fanbases were able to tell him to shut up and sit down, as failing to listen to them would ruin the company while not hurting the talents in any significant way.

His choices were to either listen to his own ego and destroy Phase Connect, or give in and let the talents continue making him a success. Now since Sakana is obviously a good businessman who doesn't put his ego ahead of the objectively profitable course of action, he chose the sensible course.

Now however, the power dynamic is the other way around. Sakana has connections and power that he simply didn't have at the start of Phase Connect. He doesn't need to listen to the talents anymore to be profitable or successful. I am not saying he doesn't listen, but I am saying that from a pragmatic viewpoint, it is no longer a major business concern of his. Nowadays, the talents need to fear displeasing Sakana's wishes vastly more than Sakana needs to fear displeasing the wishes of his talents. Phase is now big enough that any two or three big names could leave and the company would still be perfectly viable.

To put it simply, I don't buy into the idea that the early dynamic that catapulted Phase to success remains the status quo. I also think that there are many pragmatic reasons to maintain the image that it is still the dynamic. Sakana is a Chinese businessman with a great deal of power and money. It is extremely beneficial for him to hide and obfuscate these facts behind a persona that paints him as a lovably ineffectual goofball who sleeps in a dog basket and lets tiny menhera women yell at him while he thinks about coffee.
I think the power dynamic is more complex than that. The vtuber community on the whole carries the most anti-corpo sentiment it ever has and even Hololive has been knocked back onto one leg with the recent chain of graduations (reputation-wise; it'll obviously survive, but Nijisanji EN is technically surviving even if everyone involved is one bad day away from neckroping). Everyone is waiting for the next corpo fuckup they can use to push that anti-corpo sentiment even further and I'm absolutely certain Sakana's aware of this; he knows that he's one bad (or even good, but unpopular) decision away from being the next villain, so while he has more sway over the lesser-performing talents than he did in 2021 as it stands right now, the fact he knows his life could be made significantly more diffficult at any moment probably has him walking on eggshells anyway to compensate.
 

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Azehara crying as his 14th goon session in the past 4 hours will be his last one as his phone's battery dies. If only he charged his phone before the power outage.

>not having power banks on standby

lmao
 

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One of these days I hope we get situation where India is unable to access the internet for a time and everyone online realizes how fucking abhorrent those creatures made everything and agrees to permaban them from the internet.
One day a white girl is going to try targeting China and India explicitly and it'll be hilarious. Zerg rush strat
 

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One day a white girl is going to try targeting China and India explicitly and it'll be hilarious. Zerg rush strat
Not enough Indians with enough money to whale on vtubers, too much aggro from Blighttown dwellers, hoping for that one high-caste oiler. Probably better chances of winning the actual lottery.

China would work, since all of their young men are lonely, but pampered by their families and given cash, and are all too willing to spend it on bullshit like gacha games. But then you also have to play the retarded game of not offending little Zhang who thinks NTR is when a woman comes within 500 meters of a man, and to not offend big Zhang, who thinks that bringing up Genghis Khan is an attack on Chinese pride.
 

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I think the power dynamic is more complex than that. The vtuber community on the whole carries the most anti-corpo sentiment it ever has and even Hololive has been knocked back onto one leg with the recent chain of graduations (reputation-wise; it'll obviously survive, but Nijisanji EN is technically surviving even if everyone involved is one bad day away from neckroping). Everyone is waiting for the next corpo fuckup they can use to push that anti-corpo sentiment even further and I'm absolutely certain Sakana's aware of this; he knows that he's one bad (or even good, but unpopular) decision away from being the next villain, so while he has more sway over the lesser-performing talents than he did in 2021 as it stands right now, the fact he knows his life could be made significantly more diffficult at any moment probably has him walking on eggshells anyway to compensate.
With the mass extinction of small-corpos last year, literally the only two corpos left for "actually corpo good" sentiment in the EN world are Phase and Hololive. With all the recent Holo graduations, Phase might even have the best reputation out there right now since they only really have issues with merch and not any of the talents. Like you said, one unpopular decision could completely uproot that... all it would take is one graduation citing vague problems like "company direction" or "issues with management" for the years of work gathering good faith among the VTuber community to go up in smoke. I'm sure the managers weren't lying when they said Sakana could be a ruthless goal-driven businessman, I doubt he is considering turning Phase on its head and trying to overexert his power any time soon. We know from Gen 1 that Sakana isn't some perfect boss, but until proven otherwise I think he deserves the trust the PC fandom places in him.
 

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Azehara crying as his 14th goon session in the past 4 hours will be his last one as his phone's battery dies. If only he charged his phone before the power outage.
Imagine if gooning generated electric power...
 

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One day a white girl is going to try targeting China and India explicitly and it'll be hilarious. Zerg rush strat
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First vtuber to make negative money (probably not, theres probably thousands by now)
 

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