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I ask again, isn't this good? Doesn't this hurt the investors more than anyone?
In a general sense, yes, when it hurts on their pocket it's where they feel the most.
From the company's perspective, depending on how the hierarchy is structured and what is the priority of today, it will hurt the talents much more, because this drop in value need to be regained one way or another.

Now, considering how Holo is behaving recently (wasting a lot of money to have empty studios because they don't have staff neither prepared personnel themselves) and how many great assets are leaving a golden goose job because of "disagreement with management", I'd assume they hired a numberfag that said something retarded like "so, when vtubers stream we get money, so they should stream twice as much!", every investor clapped and management had to compromise on fucking their own work structure to bring money to people wanting their money, most likely the first investors the company had because it's been 5 years, it's time for a payout.

The thing is: the vultures at the top do not understand how entertainment companies work. They are not R&D nor IT where you get a goal and the goal will become a product that will reflect straight into revenue. Value in entertainment is something much more fickle, add dozens or hundreds of creators and you get a very thin rope to cross the abyss, it's as difficult to make it perfect as some Cirque Du Soleil acrobatics.

Personally, I think Holo is on a domino effect already, it's a race to see if they can make the bleeding stop or not, otherwise eventually it will hit the hardest earners (Marine, Pekora, Korone, Fubuki) or their sanctified figures (Sora, Watame, Suisei), and after those big pieces fall there is almost nothing to be done to save it.
 

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In a general sense, yes, when it hurts on their pocket it's where they feel the most.
From the company's perspective, depending on how the hierarchy is structured and what is the priority of today, it will hurt the talents much more, because this drop in value need to be regained one way or another.

Now, considering how Holo is behaving recently (wasting a lot of money to have empty studios because they don't have staff neither prepared personnel themselves) and how many great assets are leaving a golden goose job because of "disagreement with management", I'd assume they hired a numberfag that said something retarded like "so, when vtubers stream we get money, so they should stream twice as much!", every investor clapped and management had to compromise on fucking their own work structure to bring money to people wanting their money, most likely the first investors the company had because it's been 5 years, it's time for a payout.

The thing is: the vultures at the top do not understand how entertainment companies work. They are not R&D nor IT where you get a goal and the goal will become a product that will reflect straight into revenue. Value in entertainment is something much more fickle, add dozens or hundreds of creators and you get a very thin rope to cross the abyss, it's as difficult to make it perfect as some Cirque Du Soleil acrobatics.

Personally, I think Holo is on a domino effect already, it's a race to see if they can make the bleeding stop or not, otherwise eventually it will hit the hardest earners (Marine, Pekora, Korone, Fubuki) or their sanctified figures (Sora, Watame, Suisei), and after those big pieces fall there is almost nothing to be done to save it.
That is a very big and very convoluted rrat based on a lot of assumptions but I'll let you hold on to that.
Bro has wet dreams of this going down every night.
The nikkei looks fine and Anycolor likely went down because they are in the same industry as Cover.
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"Niji will never recover from this" westoids said.
"They will crash and burn" they said.

Funny how not having drama for like 6 months makes everyone stop caring and shit is back to normal. The internet truly has 10 second memory.
 
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If only people posting stock graphs also included the general trend of the market for context. Most lines in JP I saw from a few cursory glances are down today. Anycolor also went down today (not as much as Cover, but it's following the market trend).
The nikkei looks fine and Anycolor likely went down because they are in the same industry as Cover.
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The nikkei looks fine and Anycolor likely went down because they are in the same industry as Cover.
the Cover dip could also be people selling their shares because of multiple reasons (one being gura leaving) inb4 a lot of old ass dudes thought gura worked for anycolor and they sold their shit because of it.
also which talent will anycolor ask their applicants to compete against now that gura is leaving? :ameliaThink:
 

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The nikkei looks fine and Anycolor likely went down because they are in the same industry as Cover.
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My mistake looked at number instead of percentage down for the day. Still getting tired of stock graphs being brought up all the time (for every company drama in every industry), with nothing else for market context.

The Niji graphs during selenshock were dumb a lot of the time too, the funny parts were the "negligible" statement and the comments on yahoo finance.
 

smartestkidontheshortbus

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All that graph shows is some people panic sold
 

VSoyBoy

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Still getting tired of stock graphs being brought up all the time (for every company drama in every industry), with nothing else for market context.
Definitely, I complained about the same thing before here and elsewhere. A stock graph without context is pretty meaningless.
 

shipmate

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That is a very big and very convoluted rrat based on a lot of assumptions but I'll let you hold on to that.
Bro has wet dreams of this going down every night.
I recognize it's very ignorant from me to doompost but I'm not putting it in a short time frame, rather along 2 to 3 years. It's just that the company lost a lot of hard earners in just 4 months, you can't deny some of the very people that kept a constant inflow of cash are now gone and Management has to make do either by pushing people who were with them since the beginning or force their hand over the new hires and the rookies.
A company objective is to profit, but I can't see the older audience being in line with that kind of behavior, unless the masses don't bother and just want the cute girls dancing and singing without much thought about it (mostly likely).
"Niji will never recover from this" westoids said.
"They will crash and burn" they said.
NijiEN crashed and burned, people thinking it would affect NijiJP were delulu.
Elira, Finana, Enna and Reimu can't get any growth or be featured in so many places, it's amazing to see. I was pretty sure the general audience would forget about it given enough time.
It's better this way. Fuck bullies but also fuck dramafags trying to slander people completely unrelated to it. Mito, Ange, Chaika, Honhima and many others don't deserve any of this shit.
 

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"Niji will never recover from this" westoids said.
"They will crash and burn" they said.

Funny how not having drama for like 6 months makes everyone stop caring and shit is back to normal. The internet truly has 10 second memory.
Niji not having drama is not because they are doing well. Its because they are holding back the shitshow known as Aster and Twisty because they didn't want that shitshow to hit the new male wave. Once May comes up and its time for Twisty to "renew" her contract she will chose not to do so and graduate (because they have kept her in the basement for 4 months partially suspended). I assume Aster will also be let go due to it not being the first time harassment allegations come up and both times it has been made public. In the off chance that they dont fire Aster there will be a massive shitshow.

Twisty has been keeping silent for the most part guess they have her threatened at this point or maybe they will settle for her out of court and slap her with an NDA she doesnt say shit in exchange for a payout. Eventually things will leak because women cant keep their mouths shut or a friend of a friend will message purple Keemstar with leaked DMs.

the Cover dip could also be people selling their shares because of multiple reasons (one being gura leaving) inb4 a lot of old ass dudes thought gura worked for anycolor and they sold their shit because of it.
also which talent will anycolor ask their applicants to compete against now that gura is leaving? :ameliaThink:
They shifted from Gura to Fuwamoco in this last year because Gura was dead and not streaming.

NijiEN crashed and burned, people thinking it would affect NijiJP were delulu.
Elira, Finana, Enna and Reimu can't get any growth or be featured in so many places, it's amazing to see. I was pretty sure the general audience would forget about it given enough time.
It's better this way. Fuck bullies but also fuck dramafags trying to slander people completely unrelated to it. Mito, Ange, Chaika, Honhima and many others don't deserve any of this shit.
Both NijiEN and HoloEN are just extra. Both corporations can dump their EN branch into the sea and while suffering some loses they wouldn't bleed too much.
 
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I'm still awake at nearly 3:40am to update you all!

Scarle found "it."
Honestly this deserves to be featured right under Gura's graduation.
 

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To be fair with Tectone, his whore ex-wife cheated on him during a very important subathon and his whore ex-girlfriend, which was found on the OnlyFans catalog, tried to paint him as an abuser after milking a lot of money from him- she became (or attempted to) a vtuber as well, I don't know how it went.
Is he a retarded prick? No question about it, just that blaming him for everything isn't correct. He did, however, hook up with two skanks, need a better eye for women I guess.
just because his ex are skanks don't cancel out the fact that he's abusive. Both can be true.
His org instantly dropping him is a telltale sign that they have more dirt on it. The same thing happened to Rich Campbell, initially he denied all allegations, OTK investigated and dropped him within days, sometimes later Rich admitted to all of it.

And even in the case the allegations are completely false, that also speaks ill of their more than perfect corpo (which Asmongold was still on board at the time). They would decide to fuck over their streamer career and basically half confirming the allegations than standing by them. We were specifically making fun of OTK and not Tectone.

For a deeper look into this amazing corporation that everyone should be copying. On October 11th, 2020, Asmongold, Rich Campbell, Esfand, Tips Out, and Mizkif announced the formation of One True King (OTK).

Tips Out retired from streaming years ago, Rich got kicked for sexual harassment allegations, Mizkif also left the organization for a short while because he got caught on cam saying "She just got her boobs touched while unconscious ... among other things, who cares". Esfand has been relatively drama free. Asmongold sat back because all of his best friend got kicked. Emiru, a new recruit became the de facto leader of OTK as she organized streams and collaboration events for OTK, asmongold were still invited to these events, but stopped because he's too lazy to carry the OTK name.

Asmongold eventually got kicked for sending his goons army over to harass another female streamer in OTK. he drifted right wing and sponsor were dropping from OTK because of him and the evil antifa/lefties snowflakes/hassan/destiny/etc.
So no, he did not direct his vulture fanbase to attack Cinna. Cinna was the one who initiated it and his fanbase only "defended" him.
didn't care enough to read the whole thing about this one my bad. I just saw Asmongold leaves OTK, cinna, his fans attacking her and stopped reading around there. I lost interest in him around the time he fully drifted right wing, which was a bit before this.
The fact that they handled this entire situation on stream with Cinna shittalking him makes OTK even more professional of an organization!!

This is their shining example of an org that everyone should follow and death to hololive!
 
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God's Strongest Dragoon

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Asmongold himself directed his vulture fanbase to attack a female streamer, called Cinna, also under OTK, which prompted OTK, the org he founded and was literally the face of, to drop him as well have him voluntarily resign.
You stupid fucking monkey, why do I keep finding you blatantly stating provably wrong facts? Asmongold left OTK on February 21st. Meanwhile on February 12th, Cinna was trying to get Emiru and others at OTK to drop him. What provoked this was that after Trump was inaugurated on January 20th, Asmongold started to churn out a ton of content reacting to everything Trump was doing. Because Trump was doing a fuckton of stuff and Asmongold was heavily supportive of Trump, Asmongold basically went from "reactslop/gaming/political" content to "heavily political with partial bits of gaming and non-political reactslop" content.

One of his more notable moments was when he saw Dr. Phil accompanying ICE as they rounded up illegals and he floated the idea of dressing up like Ash Ketchum while accompanying ICE during deportations to catch'em all. Leftists were furious, especially Hasan who has been seething nonstop that Asmongold has completely eclipsed him as the #1 political content streamer on Twitch. Leftists explicitly stated they were going after his sponsors and the sponsors of OTK because of him. He stated the reason he split with OTK was so they don't suffer the blowback from his political content.

So no, he did not direct his vulture fanbase to attack Cinna. His only response to Cinna's statement was saying that he didn't care and it doesn't matter to him.

If anything, he explicitly discouraged them from attacking Cinna by saying he didn't care and it didn't matter to him.
 

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Re:AcT's Usuwa Suu singing at 8PM JST in her usual Wednesday timeslot.


Same time, good announcement from Re:AcT's Tsukushi Aria.

Most likely something related to her 4th anniversary.

VSpo's Komori Met zatsu clip with some Grok talk.


Polka's architects are looking forward to Polka mama.


If you like some NTR literature, Ange is here for you.


Good, good. You're almost there, you're almost losing your Westerner Brain debuff.
Now watch Wataten and get cured from your shallow irony completely. You will become a father.
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I watched it for Miyako. The younger girls are cute, I suppose, but Mya-nee is peak character design.
I want an oneesan like Mya-nee.
 

Aquatic Novellite

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Polka's architects are looking forward to Polka mama.

Since graduated Hololive talents just keep streaming instead of marrying and having kids, Hololive has no choice but to dedicate their offices to Abe, make them a shinto temple, and encourage all its talents to marry, get pregnant, and stream.

That way it may be able to stop the bleeding. From Idol company to family company.

Corporate kindergarten included.
 

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The minds at /r/kurosanji are coming up with novel ways to help Gura back on her feet after she graduates:
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The minds at /r/kurosanji are coming up with novel ways to help Gura back on her feet after she graduates:
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I'm sure she'll be relieved being a zero view indie again because all her fans left for the sake of her anxiety. Real pioneers we got over there.
 

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