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John Vtuber👁️

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Moth Enjoyer V2

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gentlemen i give you SOVL

listen to that 2 dollar mic
kino
 

ZerroDefex

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Joined:  Mar 17, 2025
I just want to play video games, and watch anime women play video games.
Why can't they just leave us alone, I don't want to be constantly fighting against them!
Because their insane system only works when all dissent is stamped out and there is no escapism either. It's why I gave up on being a libertarian, no matter how much I tried to mind my own business the rest of the world was never going to leave me alone.
 

Johnny Jambalaya

what
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'Trying to make its way into'? This has been the standard for years now. The lunatics are running the asylum and the sane people are a tiny quiet minority that fear for their careers if they say anything spicy. They own the western side of the industry. That's why you're posting here and not anywhere else.
This is not an accurate representation of reality. The overwhelming majority of vtuber fans, even in the West, do not care about culture war shit at all.
 

Italian Raccoon

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Joined:  Mar 2, 2025
Vice!!! Look at how progressive this site is, you can't even say the n-word on it!
 

PleaseCheckYourReceipts

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Because their insane system only works when all dissent is stamped out and there is no escapism either. It's why I gave up on being a libertarian, no matter how much I tried to mind my own business the rest of the world was never going to leave me alone.
If 1 in a million people is an instinctual serial killer, your society has to come up with a way of eliminating them from their society. That pretty much ends the core philosophy of Libertarianism though it doesn't really undermine the impulse of "people should be left alone" in the general sense.
 

NeneLOVE

None of us is as cruel as all of us
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Because their insane system only works when all dissent is stamped out and there is no escapism either. It's why I gave up on being a libertarian, no matter how much I tried to mind my own business the rest of the world was never going to leave me alone.
I ask what the point of "resisting" even is, I have never seen any resistance by any online community really "win" in the end, at most it is a pyrrhic victory against an endless onslaught or just a slow burn waiting for an eventual internal takeover as oldheads slowly walk away to new frontiers.

In general I have never seen gatekeeping attempts ever work, you can't stop people online from engaging with things, this is not like real life where once someone gets killed they are gone forever, on the internet people just leave until the heat has gone down and then come back when nobody cares to push them away anymore.

You also have to consider that this "fight" is not one of equals, it's billionaires, politicians, the media, websites and basically every establishment possible against like 4 retards. Its a cultural shift that cannot be stopped by anything besides a major shift in international politics or a change in the underlying economics, social, cultural and technological conditions that started it. One guy choosing to "le resistance" isn't going to get this to stop.

That why my opinion has always been "exploit the system" and "have fun whilst you still can".
 

The Proctor

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This is not an accurate representation of reality. The overwhelming majority of vtuber fans, even in the West, do not care about culture war shit at all.

And that's why the conventions are full of AGP freaks and can operate secret blacklists without consequences. You just proved my point.
 

Brosnan Pierce Brosnan

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Joined:  Apr 4, 2023
It's more fun to watch the entertainment industry die over and over again the same way anyway. Cheaper too

:robertudrink:
 

RhoasJonas

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Joined:  Sep 10, 2022
The fight ends when you are dead or they are dead.
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httn

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Joined:  Dec 27, 2022
gentlemen i give you SOVL

listen to that 2 dollar mic
kino

Much like her twitter, she is currently having an extreme breakdown on stream about being put in a psych ward.
:menhera::medsmoremeds:
 

MerelyTourist

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This is not an accurate representation of reality. The overwhelming majority of vtuber fans, even in the West, do not care about culture war shit at all.
Everyone don't care about culture war and politics, until libtards ruin something you enjoy. Then you left with no choice but to start caring.
 

The Proctor

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In general I have never seen gatekeeping attempts ever work, you can't stop people online from engaging with things, this is not like real life where once someone gets killed they are gone forever, on the internet people just leave until the heat has gone down and then come back when nobody cares to push them away anymore.

You also have to consider that this "fight" is not one of equals, it's billionaires, politicians, the media, websites and basically every establishment possible against like 4 retards. Its a cultural shift that cannot be stopped by anything besides a major shift in international politics or a change in the underlying economics, social, cultural and technological conditions that started it. One guy choosing to "le resistance" isn't going to get this to stop.

This just isn't the case. Yes, there are billionaires, politicians, the media, websites and basically every establishment possible against the other side, but the other side isn't just '4 retards'. People are witnessing the results of their agenda first-hand. They're miserable, angry and upset, and they are increasingly getting more and more focused in those feelings. That's why Kirsche has so much success exposing BRIDGE and other tentacles of the establishment. That's why indie games that publicly defy the establishment are getting so much attention and support.

Even if you don't like Trump (and I don't), he did win entirely based on an anti-establishment platform. Regardless of how one might feel about the results of that election, it shows that a populist movement can smash its way through untold billions of dollars worth of establishment funding and a totally unified powerbase of zealots that will do absolutely anything to win, at any cost. At the end of the day, power is 99% based on the consent of those affected by said power. Those affected by the establishment can see just how negative those affects have been on their lives, and they are looking for champions to rally behind.

In relation to vtubers, I see the same sentiment said time and time again; 'I would love to speak out against the negative forces in this industry more, but they have too much power and would use it to make my life miserable'. The way to help them is very simple and easy; give them public support when they dare to act. Show them how their opposition crumbles into dust the moment they take a stand. Reward them when they tell freaks, degenerates and retards to fuck off in no uncertain terms, and cheer them when they call out the discrimination, abuse and nepotism that is entirely enabled by this pervasive culture of acceptance that only exists because everyone has been taught they're alone, when the reality is they're the majority and could win tomorrow if they stood together.
 

Moth Enjoyer V2

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Joined:  Mar 22, 2023
Much like her twitter, she is currently having an extreme breakdown on stream about being put in a psych ward.
:menhera::medsmoremeds:
I can(t) fix her
:cool:
 

NeneLOVE

None of us is as cruel as all of us
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This just isn't the case. Yes, there are billionaires, politicians, the media, websites and basically every establishment possible against the other side, but the other side isn't just '4 retards'. People are witnessing the results of their agenda first-hand. They're miserable, angry and upset, and they are increasingly getting more and more focused in those feelings. That's why Kirsche has so much success exposing BRIDGE and other tentacles of the establishment. That's why indie games that publicly defy the establishment are getting so much attention and support.

Even if you don't like Trump (and I don't), he did win entirely based on an anti-establishment platform. Regardless of how one might feel about the results of that election, it shows that a populist movement can smash its way through untold billions of dollars worth of establishment funding and a totally unified powerbase of zealots that will do absolutely anything to win, at any cost. At the end of the day, power is 99% based on the consent of those affected by said power. Those affected by the establishment can see just how negative those affects have been on their lives, and they are looking for champions to rally behind.

In relation to vtubers, I see the same sentiment said time and time again; 'I would love to speak out against the negative forces in this industry more, but they have too much power and would use it to make my life miserable'. The way to help them is very simple and easy; give them public support when they dare to act. Show them how their opposition crumbles into dust the moment they take a stand. Reward them when they tell freaks, degenerates and retards to fuck off in no uncertain terms, and cheer them when they call out the discrimination, abuse and nepotism that is entirely enabled by this pervasive culture of acceptance that only exists because everyone has been taught they're alone, when the reality is they're the majority and could win tomorrow if they stood together.
Meh, I'm an opportunistic lawyer, I'll sit back and pretend to side with whoever wins this stupid race, good luck changing the world though!
 

Awoogers

basic ass man who loves the british funny woman
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Moth Enjoyer V2

Bug girl lover
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Awoogers

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God's Strongest Mozumite

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httn

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Joined:  Dec 27, 2022
Who is this again moth
A pippa/shondo orbiter who decided to start streaming, has seemingly had 2 meltdowns/suicide attempts this year which resulted in her going to the psych ward.

edit: She just pulled up triggerpoints dox on stream :whatastory:
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