General Thread v5 Guys: MariMari_EN Edition

[PleaseCheckYourReceipts]

So this is why /vt/ has been screeching about how Mari and Clio have been botting views since joining Phase eh? Sister coping and deflection, I should have guessed.

I was going to make a joke about Fishman buying bots to kick off the Invaders, but then one of the staff would accidently bot some random BL ASMR stream if it was actually happening.

I think the wave of Invaders hit at a good time after the Hololive graduation cycle.

 

[Kanna's Glowiest Assistant]

Susie Llum (formerly Abi Kadabura from V4Mirai) is releasing videos explaining Brazilian Internet culture to EN audiences. The latest one is about a department store chatbot that in time has become a multi-million dollar digital influencer

The relevant part for this forum is the swipes at Brave all over the video. At 0:48:

And while all the vtuber companies in the United States are dying, they're ALL in the red

2:57

She's incredibly mom-coded to me [...] The vtuber scene is very catered towards men, meanwhile Lu do Magalu is very catered towards women in their 40s/50s, which is honestly a more sustainable business plan. Because while most vtuber companies rely on donations, which is a business model that works in Japan but does not work in America, Lu do Magalu relies on sales from a store, which even in a recession will still keep going. It's interesting because most vtuber companies really push back on catering towards older audiences or women.

5:40

The one thing that's nice about Lu do Magalu is that unlike vtubers, she doesn't get creative burnout. She has a humongous team behind her and she has been able to persist year after year after year in growing her brand. Whereas because of abusive practices in vtubing companies, most people graduate within 5 years and people really suffer from creative burnout. You're really doing everything by yourself and there's this pressure to showcase yourself through your content. It really drains you.

IRyS continuing Expedition 33

【Clair Obscur: Expedition 33】It's time to Ouin (win)

Sasuga IRyS, she's given the stream an unintentionally hilarious title (ouin is the French onomatopoeia for crying)

Their viewership didn't magically tripled.
They got botted 3 times as much compared to previously.
The actual jump should be around 1.2x
For example Freodore, their 5th best superchat earner of April
Has an average CCV of 2200 after 98 hours of streaming = 222 969 watch hours
His actual viewership I suspect around 700 CCV, still doing amazing, but that's = 68 728 watch hours.
Dude got his watch hours/CCV boosted by 324% - 350%
View attachment 100235
one of the more obvious bot instances, 5k CCV with the renowned extremely linear and gradual slope
This kinda botting happens across the entire company

They probs won't fold, and the new gen is doing well as they are all top 10 in superchat. But it's kinda impossible to tell their actual viewership in this botting hell landscape niji is in

Just to play Devil's advocate, could the spikes be raids?

 

[frz]

Just to play Devil's advocate, could the spikes be raids?

technically yes. A raid full of bots that is.
Excuse phoneposting but a natural raid looks like this


There are 3 scenarios when someone get raided.
1. The viewership remained about the same like the pic above
2. The raided viewers quickly clicked off because they dont like the new streamer.
3. The viewers coordinated together so exactly every 1 minutes 10 viewers leaves the stream. And the viewership went in an exact decline. Viewer Zack35040 was going to click off the stream, but he didnt made the cut since 10 people have already left, so Zack waited exactly 53.25 seconds before leaving, just like every real human being. And real viewer John Huge9531 also did the same thing because he was cut off by Zack.

Everyone deemed scenario 3 super susge. Then that totally real raids patterns happened across dozens of streamers, with the exact same speed of viewers leaving a stream.

It is 100% botted. Also btw the new bots can follow raids.

 

[Xuhle]

Ever? Harsh non compete

My thoughts exactly. I got a guy feel she might be misreading it, but from how she was talking even being hesitant with pngtuber it makes me wonder what the hell that non-compete entails.

E- Also she certainly could have said more but this woman is yapper. The one I linked was just 2 days and 4 hours of her talking about this. She then was going more into it yesterday for another 5 hours with one of her friends.

 

[bothyourhouses]

This is the one piece of "advice" they all say unanimously: no matter how quality your content is, to get big you have to get some lucky strike.

I actually heard someone make the opposite argument: maybe 2-3 years ago some people made it big partly through lucky breaks, but now the scene is stable and the corpos organised enough that people will reliably rise to the level that their combination of talent and grind merits.

she married a woman BTW

The perfect move for someone who doesn't want to have sex.

Why do these people insist on making up words for everything while simultaneously acting as if words have no meaning?

He who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.

 

[Koronesuki]

He who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.

No one can make you do either one. You decide for yourself.

 

[Krompus]

Susie Llum (formerly Abi Kadabura from V4Mirai) is releasing videos explaining Brazilian Internet culture to EN audiences. The latest one is about a department store chatbot that in time has become a multi-million dollar digital influencer

The relevant part for this forum is the swipes at Brave all over the video.

Why the fuck is she dick-sucking a internet sales company mascot... I hate it here.

 

[UberSoldat]

Nako plays Voices of the Void


Jorunna plays Fallout Tactics


Onolumi plays Arcanum

 

[lakyus]

Ami was looking up food on youtube again

I bet she's jealous.

 

[Kamehameheilhitler]

@Kamehameheilhitler should invite her for a collab where they can fight each other.
I wonder what's the dynamic there because her model isn't innocent. Is she a dead lay or is the husband just a paypig? So many questions...

Bedroom is either dead or dying.

Apparently there are asexuals who are generally repulsed by sexual things (Rin Penrose) and others who are actually interested in sex on some level and comfortable with lewd topics (this is what she said back when she was Lana Shikami anyway). I can't say I really get it......

It's bullshit and people not knowing what words mean. In all of my years meeting "asexual" people online and IRL I've only met 2 people who genuinely qualified, everyone else was thirsting over 2D, was coping that they couldn't get any, had a low (but not dead) libido or in one case really liked weird latex fetish images and thought showing a pic of him wearing a ballgag was funny.

 

[Banana Hammock]

E- She's not going to fight it, but she said that she's also no longer allowed to be a vtuber. Like I can get not wanting to continue going to war with the HQ but jeez woman.

Yeah, that shit's not enforceable. Maybe for 6 months to a year, but not forever. She's either stupid or she's using this as an excuse to pivot into non-vtuber content creation.

 

[Smelliest007]

Their viewership didn't magically tripled.
They got botted 3 times as much compared to previously.
The actual jump should be around 1.2x
For example Freodore, their 5th best superchat earner of April
Has an average CCV of 2200 after 98 hours of streaming = 222 969 watch hours
His actual viewership I suspect around 700 CCV, still doing amazing, but that's = 68 728 watch hours.
Dude got his watch hours/CCV boosted by 324% - 350%
View attachment 100235
one of the more obvious bot instances, 5k CCV with the renowned extremely linear and gradual slope
This kinda botting happens across the entire company

They probs won't fold, and the new gen is doing well as they are all top 10 in superchat. But it's kinda impossible to tell their actual viewership in this botting hell landscape niji is in

Thoughts on the NijiEN Minecraft RP event where many of them were botted?

 

[Phantasm]

Yeah, that shit's not enforceable. Maybe for 6 months to a year, but not forever. She's either stupid or she's using this as an excuse to pivot into non-vtuber content creation.

If she's not lying out of her ass about this it would unironically put Mythos in the running with Nijisanji as a black company

 

[Johnny Jambalaya]

Thoughts on the NijiEN Minecraft RP event where many of them were botted?

How these discussions usually go:

Stuff I like = True & Honest, not botted
Stuff I don't like = Fake & Gay, botted to hell and back

 

[Xuhle]

Yeah, that shit's not enforceable. Maybe for 6 months to a year, but not forever. She's either stupid or she's using this as an excuse to pivot into non-vtuber content creation.

With how she was talking and even making trying to make a group song with Dio and when Phae was around it was more of a minstrel ballad. She also talked about wanting to do lore and be creative like that.

Tldr I don't think she's wanting to go away from vtubing as she seems to want to tell stories and be creative with her character. Mythos was just not wanting to do so and kind of was stifling her creativity.

If she's not lying out of her ass about this it would put Mythos unironically in the running with Nijisanji as a black company

I think it's more of they are comfortable with just how they have been running before, which is mostly reaction slop and didn't want to rock the boat at all. I don't see it as malice just way to safe.

Like just not being known much outside of there fans that they are usually mid 2views with rare expectations (both of who I know were mid 3views have or are leaving)

 

[Kamehameheilhitler]

Ayayo going to Canada...How will I live without my morning pon detective with the sexy voice...I can't even activate the hidden nukes until she leaves that jeeted place

 

[kushami tasukaru]

Aogiri's Gabu Rieru singing anime songs which will make you feel right at home if you're in your 30s/40s.


VSpo's Aizawa Ema with her new Hoyoverse style outfit (Genshin otaku) rounding up unicorns.


More Ririka and historical figures.


VSpo's Ichinose Uruha's adventure in Madtown GTA.

 

[Smelliest007]

Stuff I like = True & Honest, not botted

HoloEN has never been botted, simple as. Don't look what's behind my back. It's not Biboo getting botted by a Faunaschizo.

 

[Negzana]

I still don't understand, what's the point of bots?

 

[La+ de Central Norte]

I still don't understand, what's the point of bots?

Numberfagging at the Numbers thread on /vt/