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[Aquatic Novellite]

Maybe Sakana isn't some god level business man people are touting him to be.

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All I've seen for the past four years has been people memeing on Sakana for failing upwards. Celebrating Muumi for saving the company after Sakana almost broke it. Phase Connect surviving when everyone else died because it fucked up the least, rather than on account of some sort of brilliant business plan. He's believed to be a tech bro, which isn't usually considered "Good businessman," either.

Never have I seen anyone call Sakana a "brilliant businessman."

So let's put memes and shitposts aside for a moment and give Sakana at least some credit, because not all of his success is down to luck. He earned the money to start Phase Connect by selling a previous business he founded, and while a successful business is partly luck, you have to work pretty hard to get that luck as well. That experience gave him knowledge of how to run a business startup, as well as giving him experience in managing online advertising, budget management, and general CEO duties, which is pretty good knowledge to start a vtuber agency with. When he was having trouble with his talents in the first year, he was smart enough to hire someone to cover his deficiencies with talent management, which is a level of humility a lot of people struggle with. As for selecting talents, I don't know how he does it, but right now, he's only lost two (perhaps three) vtubers out of twenty-eight talents hired over the last three-odd years. That's a really high talent retention rate, which says that whatever he does to help retain talents and keep them motivated to work for Phase Connect seems to work pretty well.

Behind that high level of autism and desire to have his own Houshou Marine stream as a talent is actually someone (surprisingly) competent.

I mean, I'm not disagreeing, but that's still a far cry from being called a god tier businessman.

 

[PleaseCheckYourReceipts]

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All I've seen for the past four years has been people memeing on Sakana for failing upwards. Celebrating Muumi for saving the company after Sakana almost broke it. Phase Connect surviving when everyone else died because it fucked up the least, rather than on account of some sort of brilliant business plan. He's believed to be a tech bro, which isn't usually considered "Good businessman," either.

Never have I seen anyone call Sakana a "brilliant businessman."

Sakana isn't an idiot and can learn from his mistakes. That isn't brilliant, it's just as "in the land of the blind, the 1-eyed man is King" scenario. But, in this industry, I guess it might actually be classed as brilliant.

 

[RestlessRain]

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All I've seen for the past four years has been people memeing on Sakana for failing upwards. Celebrating Muumi for saving the company after Sakana almost broke it. Phase Connect surviving when everyone else died because it fucked up the least, rather than on account of some sort of brilliant business plan. He's believed to be a tech bro, which isn't usually considered "Good businessman," either.

Never have I seen anyone call Sakana a "brilliant businessman."

So let's put memes and shitposts aside for a moment and give Sakana at least some credit, because not all of his success is down to luck. He earned the money to start Phase Connect by selling a previous business he founded, and while a successful business is partly luck, you have to work pretty hard to get that luck as well. That experience gave him knowledge of how to run a business startup, as well as giving him experience in managing online advertising, budget management, and general CEO duties, which is pretty good knowledge to start a vtuber agency with. When he was having trouble with his talents in the first year, he was smart enough to hire someone to cover his deficiencies with talent management, which is a level of humility a lot of people struggle with. As for selecting talents, I don't know how he does it, but right now, he's only lost two (perhaps three) vtubers out of twenty-eight talents hired over the last three-odd years. That's a really high talent retention rate, which says that whatever he does to help retain talents and keep them motivated to work for Phase Connect seems to work pretty well.

Behind that high level of autism and desire to have his own Houshou Marine stream as a talent is actually someone (surprisingly) competent.

 

[bothyourhouses]

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She's also memed as an idiot. In one of the game manuals she was labelled as "⑨: Baka". And see e.g.

 

[frz]

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All I've seen for the past four years has been people memeing on Sakana for failing upwards. Celebrating Muumi for saving the company after Sakana almost broke it. Phase Connect surviving when everyone else died because it fucked up the least, rather than on account of some sort of brilliant business plan. He's believed to be a tech bro, which isn't usually considered "Good businessman," either.

Never have I seen anyone call Sakana a "brilliant businessman."

You'd need to be actually blind to not notice all the fishman glazing going around.
Here's 5 minutes of searching by putting "fishman businessman" on this site

Brave Group/Sony are gonna be the death of every small corpo. Phase is unironically going to be the last one standing just because of Fishman actually being a smart businessman and never overextending himself. - Trap Supremacy

His autism makes him a good businessman and prevents yabs. - God's bear

Fishman is usually a decent businessman - bunniedoll

My nigga fishman might look very autistic but he's quite the decent businessman - Lurker McSpic

Sakana might be a memelord who creates sad girls but the guy obviously knows his bussiness though more important then good bussiness sense is the ability to pool capital to cover your failures not in a "never happened" sense but in a "ok i have 20 werehouses full of coffee and starbucks already bought 5 " sense.

It's not Luck or Hardwork it's actual skill turn your failures into profits your succsesses - Calcium Animal

And my number 1 favorite quote about it all

As much people like to joke about Sakana, the guy is an autistic Chinese businessman. Emphasis on the Chinese part. Meaning that he has some hang-ups on how things should run that may seem alien to a lot of us westerners.. - Laidho

You don't understand how brilliant chinese are, you westerners are so blind to true and real competent business strategies perfected by the chopstick holders

And while I'm writing this, @RestlessRain & @PleaseCheckYourReceipts already jumped into Fishman defense replying to your post lol
People meme about him failing upward but that's only a meme, they actually believe him to be good.

 

[RestlessRain]

You'd need to be actually blind to not notice all the fishman glazing going around.
Here's 5 minutes of searching by putting "fishman businessman" on this site





And my number 1 favorite quote about it all

You don't understand how brilliant chinese are, you westerners are so blind to true and real competent business strategies perfected by the chopstick holders

And while I'm writing this, @RestlessRain & @PleaseCheckYourReceipts already jumped into Fishman defense replying to your post lol
People meme about him failing upward but that's only a meme, they actually believe him to be good.

Sakana has had some luck, sure. But let's not pretend that actually maintaining and growing a successful vtuber agency in an industry where corpos collapse weekly doesn't require any skill whatsoever.

 

[Johnny Jambalaya]

You'd need to be actually blind to not notice all the fishman glazing going around.
Here's 5 minutes of searching by putting "fishman businessman" on this site





And my number 1 favorite quote about it all

You don't understand how brilliant chinese are, you westerners are so blind to true and real competent business strategies
And as of writing this, 2 guy replied right after to jump into Fishman defense
People meme about him failing upward but that's only a meme, they actually believe him to be good.

The Phase Connect Defense Force has been notified of this post and they will be responding shortly.

 

[Planetary Bombardment]

You'd need to be actually blind to not notice all the fishman glazing going around.

Look everybody I found the one inmate who still isn't employed as a Contract Digital Media Advertising Specialist for Phase Connect Co. LTD.

 

[CalciumAnimal]

So I'm guessing Nova will be payed in funny cardboard instead of money?

you think your joking but there are people who play the card market and "win big" it's not all first edition charizards misprints limited runs or just cards that define the meta before it's nerfed into the ground or something counters it the prices they go for can exceed the price of buying the pack especially if you go for the second hand shops where you can find relevant but not brand new cards.

Is this the first Holo member that the official account has acknowledged?

reminder these are all underpaid people who exist to run these accounts sometimes they get to go wildly off the rails when the brand they represent goes on a smoke break (and some never cared to begin with) so this means less then nothing

Can the vtuber gods... you know... FUCKING NOT!?

This is why we are slowly grooming scoots into becoming the high priestess of phase connect so he can intervene on Ahri's behalf what you think all those religious sounding names for the clipper channel were accidental?

He'll get Kattarina. He'll then get youtube to remonetize her, and she'll in turn sleep with an experienced jew CEO who knows how to bravely maximise profits from vtubing properties.

Fixed that for you.

I'm pretty sure that Phase Invaders season 3 will be unknown streamers who have never been in a corpo before such as

Juan Unagi
Rin Penrose
Fuyo Cloverfield
Kattarina Qutie
The Mexican one

Sadly there was rumors of a 6th but she is Pippa's friend and didn't keep her famous ip to begin with so Mossad had to take her out

Allegedly. I have never heard of these people and I've never made this joke before

Edit: I'm keeping the typo, PHASE STARS LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOO

I thought you were going with joke fake names you didn't I am disappointed.

it is but our audience is used to pointless drama and reality shows, we need people with the ability to ignore it and being impossible to cancel like pippa is

and revenue might not come for years, people is open to waste money on really pointless shit here, so streamers and influencers can thrive, but vtubers are different from the kind of idiots becoming famous here

I still say a Vtuber who can tolerate copious amounts of telenovela and translate it to a more autistic audience would make real bank real fast.

Longposts are back in fashion baby.

 

[VSoyBoy]

By the way, Michi is getting a new outfit for valentines:

 

[frz]

Sakana has had some luck, sure. But let's not pretend that actually maintaining and growing a successful vtuber agency in an industry where corpos collapse weekly doesn't require any skill whatsoever.

I'm just saying if I'm an employee and I'm tasked with procuring merches and I spent 4 years doing fuck all and presented that rag cosplaying as a scarf to my employer.
The employer would fire me on the spot. And if I reported that I actually sold one of them to a customer, they would personally escort me out of the 4th floor, through the window, ultilizing one of the universe's fundamental principles of physics coined "Gravity".

It's not like Phase is the only company in the entire industry selling merches and that they are entering uncharted territory, pioneering a new profession. Merch is the lifeblood of the industry. He could literally call uhh... Aviel for example and ask where did the Jew buy merch from. Making connections to buy and sell things is literally the definition of a "businessman".

There's even one vtuber company, created by a game dev and a cow vtuber, they were terrible at managing vtubers, eventually lost all their vtubers and .... becomes a successful merch company. Was it kawaii? Kavvai? Ah nevermind it's KawaE.

I think Fishman strong point is PR, he's really good at it, he's also good (or maybe lucky?) at getting the right people (like Muumi), but the handling of the merch makes me doubt his businessman ability.

 

[Planetary Bombardment]

There's even one vtuber company, created by a game dev and a cow vtuber, they were terrible at managing vtubers, eventually lost all their vtubers and .... becomes a successful merch company. Was it kawaii? Kavvai? Ah nevermind it's KawaE.

I clicked your link and was shortly presented with a Mozu dakimakura with removable clothes.

I am forced to concede that maybe they do understand their audience better than the man selling summer scarves.

 

[Sky Shouter]

4D Eva!

And she is NOT flat! Sorry Lisa



Chibidoki does a retarded play in poker and wins anyway


Speaking of card games, this indog is showing off his Hololive Uno deck

 

[RestlessRain]

It's not like Phase is the only company in the entire industry selling merches and that they are entering uncharted territory, pioneering a new profession. Merch is the lifeblood of the industry. He could literally call uhh... Aviel for example and ask where did the Jew buy merch from. Making connections to buy and sell things is literally the definition of a "businessman".

"Fishman should ask Aviel about merch"

Aviel never produced or shipped a single piece of merch and put all of that on Brave Group. Great example.

 

[USS IOWA]

Chibidoki does a retarded play in poker and wins anyway

That's Blackjack.

 

[Svarog]

Hani playing Animal Crossing

Twitch link

Mashiro Yuki singing comfy songs


Onolumi playing MGS V: TFP


Fubuki's original song MV premiere in 5 minutes

 

[Unseiso Dragon]

All this merch talk makes me glad I don't live in North America and therefore can't be bothered to buy Phase merch in the first place

 

[Helkar]

Sakana has had some luck, sure. But let's not pretend that actually maintaining and growing a successful vtuber agency in an industry where corpos collapse weekly doesn't require any skill whatsoever.

Phase actually collapsed in early-2021 and nobody noticed.

Still, Sakana does indeed need to do something about the consistency of merch quality if he intends to grow the company further, goodwill of the fans can carry you for a frankly absurd amount of time, but if shit quality becomes a pattern, eventually customers will go from complaining to not buying.
Would definitely be a better investment than throwing money at fucking Offkai, for one.

 

[Negzana]

All this merch talk makes me glad I don't live in North America and therefore can't be bothered to buy Phase merch in the first place

I live in North America and have to wait 8 months for the Jelly Fumo. It's pain. Maybe this could be an argument for bringing factories back to America, would make the whole process easier.

 

[Sky Shouter]

That's Blackjack.

Ew no, I thought we banned that guy.