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Bronze

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I wasn’t around when Kaleido was revealed bc of personal stuff, but wasn’t everyone speculating on the chinchilla? I don’t follow her but what’s those chances
She apparently auditioned, so not too low.

Reina's singing part of a globie karaoke relay
 

The Proctor

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The superior Fauna is streaming.

 

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This was posted on the Discord and I feel is worth sharing here as well. Anyone think of any questions that'd be worth asking?

Speaking of Rin, wtf happened to her? Did she go running off to live in the wild with the pikmin?
 

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Uh, is there a sizeable pool of indie JP 4-views that would consider joining a western corpo? I have zero idea, but on paper it sounds rather unrealistic.
Nevermind if they'd consider joining, there isn't a sizeable pool of JP indie 4-views period. JP in 2024 anyone past a few hundred viewers jumps or gets scouted into a corpo, whether as themselves or as a fresh debut. There are even more tiny corpo in the JP scene, and these are usually considered more respectable to the JP audience - just how Japanese culture is - even if arguably they're more of a scam than EN small corpos. The Twitch equivalent, NicoNico, has been on life support for a long time and so there's no longer a place for grassroots indie vtubers to grow outside of random virality on YouTube. This has taken away the equivalent 1k-5k range that EN Twitch indies can reach at the top end without big corpo branding to boost them. The handful of extremely successful JP indies are usually converts to vtubing from normal streaming back in 2018/2019/2020, or Niji/Holo retirees.

That's a simplified way of looking at it, but it really is the case that so many JP vtubers both mid-sized and small who might otherwise be worth consideration, are actually associated with random corpos you've never heard of.
 

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I really hate hanabusa lisa for this. This clip lives in my head rent fucking free. And i'm also pretty sure that of all VCR GTA clips, its the most viewed clip. Even the original clip has close to 400k views i think.
 

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Oga you need to reserve that proposal for later :BijouBijou:
 

Willemshaven

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Takodachi

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she hasn't even graduated yet and the begging has already begun, sasuga phasebeggars :deztheroom:
There's a reason why doki, dooby and mint turned down VShojo my guy, what can Phase really offer that LemonLeaf can't do as an indie/VShojo can't. Why would she want to get her paycheck cut to deal with corpo bs. These corpo escapees are so incredibly huge that small time indies (including filian) clout chased their ass to smooch off their CCV so they don't lack people to collab with. If indie Lemonleaf say "hey Lumi go lick my feet", Lumi would gladly bent down and lick it without LemonLeaf needing to join phase.
Your corpo failed to even recruit a Sayu:ponrys:. Keep reaching for the stars :hic:

Reminder Lisa turned down Phase for Brave because of the idol shit. Phase is not even the 3rd choice when it comes to idol lulmao. :SelenHAHAhere:
Not that fauna even liked making music, she just liked being invited to concerts and hangs out with people, singing and dancing is just the bonus. And guess which company begged mint to guest star their 3D concert.

I actually like phase:akiramisaki:. But this is just delusion on a whole different level. Fauna is simply way too big. Set your expectation lower if you don't want to be laughed at.
:lolwat:
I'd not be laughing if it's a vshojo beggar, because there's always a chance with these poachers. But phase is just :Vesper-UNHINGED::Vesper-UNHINGED:
You sound black.
 

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Besides her new outfit, Botan announced that she wants to destroy Christmas by hosting an offline event for SF6 and bingo! (sasuga hag)


Shishiro Botan's Christmas Fight Night:
  • Will be held at the Red Bull Gaming Sphere Tokyo and streamed on Youtube.
  • 1000 yen to sign up. If too many people sign up, it'll become a lottery system.
  • Starts at 8PM JST Christmas Eve, ends at 5AM Christmas Day (May be extended depending).
  • Schedule:
    • 20:00 Doors open
    • 21:00 Show starts ・Christmas Street Fight Royale
    • 24:00 BULL FIGHTING TOURNAMENT ・FIGHTER's Conversation
    • 26:00 Christmas Tag Team Match
    • 28:00 Xmas Bingo Tournament
    • 29:00 Closing
  • Christmas Street Fight Royale: Players will battle each other for Shishiro Chips. The top 7 players with the highest amount of Shishiro Chips will then enter a final tournament with Botan herself to determine the winner.
  • Bull Fighting Tournament: Single Elimination tournament in the Bull Run mode. Winner will get to fight Botan.
  • FIGHTER's Conversation: A segment where the participants will talk about stories/episodes related to a theme given in advance. Especially good episodes might receive a prize.
  • Christmas Tag Team Match: Waseda-style 2v2 Single Elimination Tournament. Teams will be made at random.
  • Xmas Bingo Tournament: A fun way to close things off with presents from Shishiro Santa.
And great art of the new outfit from Tomari-mama :pomuLove:
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Takodachi

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The superior Fauna is streaming.


Isnt Soy some flavour of chinese?
I vaguely recall her mentioning it during one of Lava improptu VCs
 

wew

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Isnt Soy some flavour of chinese?
I vaguely recall her mentioning it during one of Lava improptu VCs
How the hell do you keep track of what vtubers may or may not be Chinese.
 

Paladin

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Isnt Soy some flavour of chinese?
I vaguely recall her mentioning it during one of Lava improptu VCs
She's said on stream that she's Malaysian, but given the large Chinese diaspora, I wouldn't be surprised if she's mixed.
How the hell do you keep track of what vtubers may or may not be Chinese.
He doesn't. They just become Chinese when he watches them.
 
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Think about it financially. The yen is at historic lows, and the JP economy has been in the shitter for a while now. If Fishman is offering a low 4 view, a job, it would come with financial backing in a currency far more valuable than the yen with an audience that supperchats in USD. It's a 2-way street. As Fishman digs into their viewer base and gains more influence in the JP market, they dig into the Western market and gain fans who are more wealthy by nature of where they live, increasing their income dramatically if everything goes well. We can debate the success and the viability of such a plan, but it's clear Fishman has a strong negotiation position given the globe's financial situation.
yeah your average vtuber is very wary of the yen - usd thing and they are also very knowledgable about the world affairs and they will certainly get alot of USD donations even if they don't speak English from phase fans!!!!!!
Nevermind if they'd consider joining, there isn't a sizeable pool of JP indie 4-views period. JP in 2024 anyone past a few hundred viewers jumps or gets scouted into a corpo, whether as themselves or as a fresh debut. There are even more tiny corpo in the JP scene, and these are usually considered more respectable to the JP audience - just how Japanese culture is - even if arguably they're more of a scam than EN small corpos. The Twitch equivalent, NicoNico, has been on life support for a long time and so there's no longer a place for grassroots indie vtubers to grow outside of random virality on YouTube. This has taken away the equivalent 1k-5k range that EN Twitch indies can reach at the top end without big corpo branding to boost them. The handful of extremely successful JP indies are usually converts to vtubing from normal streaming back in 2018/2019/2020, or Niji/Holo retirees.

That's a simplified way of looking at it, but it really is the case that so many JP vtubers both mid-sized and small who might otherwise be worth consideration, are actually associated with random corpos you've never heard of.
VShojo tried with mikeneko and Kson and realized the errors of their way and just go for small sized JP indies now.
going by vstats I can probs list all of them 4-view indie chuuba in JP (excluding males because phase is not gonna get male):

Coromin (Friends with Kson & Tomari Mari, did collab with Marine), often memed because her twitter handle is Corona
Macoto ASMR / Nakia ASMR / Yuuri (huge ASMR indies)
Rica / Delutaya / Tomari Mari / Sakura Aoi / Suou Patra / Inaba Haneru / Mikeneko (ex corpo)
Nerumero / Fuji Aoi / Kagura Mea (top 100 vtubers)
Some weird grandmother nvm it's a guy
Sana Natori - 385k subs, hold her own 3D concerts
iida pochi - Mangaka turned vtuber / Hinata Yuika - popular seiyuu turned vtuber
Which of these small time vtubers will take up on @Paladin's offer to promote Phase Connect.

With karubi being scouted by Crazy Racoon yeah the list of 4-view indie chuuba is actually shrinking.
 
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Unarchived Ekko karaoke in just over 15 minutes:

You will watch and spam pachi pachis accordingly :laplusgun:.

EDIT: archived unarchived Ekko karaoke - https://gofile.io/d/Ij2Bfr
Fuck me I've missed this gremlin an unhealthy amount these past few months... we are so back.
 
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Renmai

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After reading that last page, I wanna see Fauna join phase invaders, just so I can analyze the olympic-tier gymnastics on the holo "L" thread.
I would have to make fun of lemontea for fumbling the bag, the loss in $$ has to be insane.
 

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This was posted on the Discord and I feel is worth sharing here as well. Anyone think of any questions that'd be worth asking?

1. How do you dodge the mistreatment allegations when wrangling talents being lazy/unresponsive?
2. Do you have experience in managing catfights/bitchslaps between talents? If so, how do you stop yourself from creating another DV statistic?
3. How do you make money without inviting sponsors/advertisement into the game? Taking from the talent doesn't make it attractive unless there's major support for projects behind the scene.
4. How do you even invite sponsors, advertisers and investors?
5. In EN vtubing, traditional arts (singing, playing, acting, painting) are being left behind for a more generalist idea of an entertainer. Do corpos still value those things or did they lower change their standards?
6. How important is the country of origin of a talent? The people crave for the latinas.
7. That talk about "all genders welcome" is usually a front, right? Everyone knows women are the main target for bringing the big bucks.
8. Most vtubers' staff is usually young people, and young people have a very different view of hierarchy and authority -they usually rebel. How do you keep stuff under reigns within a more progressive headspace?
9. How much is staff paid, anyway? Considering most support team would work in a home-office position, I'd imagine you hire cheaper labor from south-east asia, latin america and similar places.
10. In the end, is it a good idea to search for a wife in vtubing? They say that crazy girl pochi grips just like the socks they make them wear.
 

God's Strongest Mozumite

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Despite having to miss several streams this week due to an ongoing emergency, Mozumi Pichi has found the time to stream today. Please welcome her back with lots of love :sanasmile:
 
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