General Thread v2: Enhanced Segregation Techniques!

[Euthyphro]

Peo with karaoke:

Ari hopping into Apex:

 

[Security]

I thought she didn't actually make any callout at the time? She talked about having not been happy about it but only a few weeks down the line when everyone had moved on to talking about eating spiders.

My recollection is fuzzy, and I'm not expert on Ina: but from what I recall, she was getting annoyed at it all until her chat pointed out the pun of Ina's Back (as she had just returned from her trip), and, realizing that this is her own style of humor, she said: "This is my fault. I did this."

 

[Hff201]

I wonder how long it took them to set the folder to private.
View attachment 77510

Okay since the link's private now, here's the moment (still up unedited right now, there's not much reason to take it down at this point).


(15:55)

 

[GOD'S STRONGEST BUILDERBEAR]

and porn

Wait gimme sec isnt that just live2d model files? Or did i misread?
If so you cant really do anything like that with it unless you want to see tenma naked in A-pose. And even then youll have to do lots of editing in PS

 

[Piava]

Peo with karaoke:

Ari hopping into Apex:

Fuck me, for a moment I read that as "Pedo with karaoke". I definitely need to get some sleep
"Night shifts are chill" they said. "You get used to it". "It won't fuck up your sleep schedule."

 

[shipmate_F]

Wait gimme sec isnt that just live2d model files? Or did i misread?
If so you cant really do anything like that with it unless you want to see tenma naked in A-pose. And even then youll have to do lots of editing in PS

The files don't have her naked body, only the clothed pieces.
Usually in high-quality models the files contain a "doll-like" naked body under it for exposed skin parts and to make it easier to design outfits that don't diverge from the original anatomy. In this case the texture only shows the head layers and all body parts are in a single texture file as fully-covered limbs.
You can't make porn with this one, but you could make porn with Iron Vertex or Dya models.

 

[Security]

You can't make porn with this one

If you're not creative...

 

[Kazuma]

Calli is getting a new outfit on September 5th


She's also releasing the MV for Go Getter after her outfit reveal.

 

[GOD'S STRONGEST BUILDERBEAR]

If you're not creative...

I guess you could do something like cowgirl. But at this point you are making a whole new rig. You might aswell just make a piece with a better pose and angle

 

[ex_lurker]

This whole model leak thing is not Eimi's fault but Sakana's. Talents should not have the ability to share files with the "Anyone with a link" option on.

They should have it disabled for the whole company, it's simple enough.

I'm assuming of course that Sakana pays for Google Workspaces and that his employees are not using personnal accounts for sharing critical company assets.

I mean even Disney had "Anyone with a link" google docs that had their links leaked in that big leak a few weeks back. Options exist but people don't think to use them.

I guess it's also on Google for not having better defaults. The default settings should always be the secure ones.

 

[Mantine]

Apparently Eimi did an oopsie and leaked both of Tenma's models by showing a Google Drive link on screen.

There is just so much stupidity with this. Besides Eimi's obvious carelessness (it's always Discord), Tenma could have done any of the following to lessen the impact:

• Set up the proper access rights to that file
• Set an expiration date for said access
• Delete the message in Discord after Eimi got the link/file

I don't know where Phase stands in this mess either. Do they not have corporate infrastructure for these types of things? Why are company files being shared through Discord and Google Drive?


To any VTubers who may happen to read this: DON'T use Discord for sharing sensitive information, and delete your messages often. Always prepare for the scenario where viewers are going to see your DMs.

 

[Lurker McSpic]

They use Discord for collab calls where it needs to be open on the same device as OBS, so it's most likely just become part of the typical streaming workflow for them to have it open.

Yeah I forgot they funnel everything through OBS. If there's literally no other way to set up a call, these type of mistakes can be avoided by making an account specifically for collab calls. For an industry that takes the secrecy of their talent's real identity they do the bare minimum sometimes.

 

[Tubedude]

This whole model leak thing is not Eimi's fault but Sakana's. Talents should not have the ability to share files with the "Anyone with a link" option on.

They should have it disabled for the whole company, it's simple enough.

I'm assuming of course that Sakana pays for Google Workspaces and that his employees are not using personnal accounts for sharing critical company assets.

I mean even Disney had "Anyone with a link" google docs that had their links leaked in that big leak a few weeks back. Options exist but people don't think to use them.

 

[Nenélove]

Honestly you're so dedicated to this bit I can only applaud your efforts. Godspeed, hermano autista, you're gonna get that flowchart up and everyone will clap.

Danke, I have a dream, an ultimate goal.
I shall create the org chart to end all org charts!
A monstrosity which centers around the seven great corpos of old! Cover (Hololive), Anycolor (Nijisanji), Appland (.Live), Brave (VSPO!), Zizai (Entum, Mirai Akari), Activ8 (Upd8, Kizuna Ai), Nanashiinku (774 Inc). When I collect the infinity corpos I shall unlock infinite power!

 

[Hff201]

Yeah I forgot they funnel everything through OBS. If there's literally no other way to set up a call, these type of mistakes can be avoided by making an account specifically for collab calls. For an industry that takes the secrecy of their talent's real identity they do the bare minimum sometimes.

It really would be smarter to use Discord solely for public-facing interactions (collaboration stream calls, fan interactions in the Phase-Connect server etc.) and a separate program like Slack etc. for private interactions. That way you'd be able to enforce a simple "open Discord, close Slack" policy that would very quickly become second nature, rather than using Discord for everything and constantly having to worry which particular chat is open at any given moment.

I mean even Disney had "Anyone with a link" google docs that had their links leaked in that big leak a few weeks back. Options exist but people don't think to use them.

It happens everywhere because, regardless of available technical resources and company policies, human error and poor in-the-moment judgement is always going to be a factor. Should every employee be schizo-paranoid about how they handle confidential company materials? Sure. But is it possible to hire an entire team who are all above sending a coworker just one file on a personal account, because they left their work laptop at the office and don't have the right login to hand at home? Not at all.

Streaming in particular is open to these vulnerabilities because using Discord for everything is standard practice, so it's not like there's any prompt to stop and think about their options in this one particular instance. It's also true that, regardless of how much training they receive, few people actually take privacy and security seriously until they see something happen - and today's sequence of events don't really have a precedent that I can think of. The biggest example we have of a Discord oopsie being an actual problem was the Rushia yab, and even then the takeaway was she was a retard for trying to clear her name through a drama channel rather than just taking the L.

As a comparison, a lot of people here come from the farms and as such have a sixth sense for covering our tracks online, since we've seen all the ways people can piece together information to create a profile on someone. Most normies do not have this sense which leaves them vulnerable; even the ones who are at least somewhat conscious of their safety and understand the fundamentals like not posting pictures of their family members or announcing when they're going on holiday aren't going to think of things like "if I post this photo of my Christmas decorations, people will comb through real estate websites and compare the placements of doors, light switches, and chimney stacks to find my address" - because they've never seen that happen with their own eyes. It's a similar kind of situation with yab-prevention, nobody's privy to every possible weak point.

 

[MerelyTourist]

Doki is having issues shipping her merch since she had to boot her last company director and he left a big fucking mess.

@MerelyTourist Sorry, you're going to have to explain again why Corpos don't offer anything to indie VTubers and why Doki is actually hoarding all that money and doesn't actually need it right now. Thanks in advance, I'm very confused right now.

Holy shit. Chuuba merch delivered on time challenge impossible. I remember she dropped vague lines about working with her mom and that working with family sucks some time ago, wonder if it's her. I should've saved a clip
Yeah, with this info i reassess my opinion, Doki probably have some really uncomfortable cash gap now. May she learn virtues of floating capital. And Grimmi is in similar situation now too.
Still don't agree with baselessly throwing the word "debt" around.

Corpos fuck merch all the time though, and get fucked by maufacturers/distributors same as individual chuubas. And in recent case of Idol it turns out as even more headache for talents, not less. So yeah, corpos still don't have much to offer unless it's Holo and... that's about it. And twitch ban immunity of vshojo.
I wonder how's overall merch situation under Brave?

 

[Aquatic Novellite]

Is that confirmed? I thought she was LATAM?

Flips are just latams with pronounced epicanthic folds.

Literally, because like half the Spanish forces that conquered the place were Indians who proceeded to fuck the locals, so now 2% of their DNA is native American.

 

[Bronze]

We can put Eimi in a microwave as punishment and she'll just explode then come back.

Anyway, Jerry

 

[DogBone]

This whole model leak thing is not Eimi's fault but Sakana's. Talents should not have the ability to share files with the "Anyone with a link" option on.

They should have it disabled for the whole company, it's simple enough.

I'm assuming of course that Sakana pays for Google Workspaces and that his employees are not using personnal accounts for sharing critical company assets.



I guess it's also on Google for not having better defaults. The default settings should always be the secure ones.

It kind of reminds me how Sakana uses Discord for company communication. It's crazy to me how Phase just trusts Discord go have all their private conversations between talents and between managers and vtubers. One of these days, a rogue actor who's pissed about the company is gonna scrape the company Discord, doesn't even need to be PC, and release the entire Discord log of everything. That or there'll be a leak or something because Discord sucks.

 

[Takodachi]

Alright lads, party is over