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Very long tl;dr on Cyberlive. You're gonna hear a lot of "ALLEGEDLY" in here because I can only source shit through /vt/ archive dumpster diving.
- Cyberlive was a small corporate vtuber agency that popped into existence in the spring of 2021 with their talents debuting in the following summer alongside agencies such as Phase Connect.
- The first documented fuckup comes before Cyberlive even existed. Cyberlive was formerly connected to an agency that was calling themselves "Yunity" and Misaki (their main talent manager iirc) was 17 years old at the time of creation.
- Yunity held auditions in January 2021, scheduled to debut their original gen1 for March 2021.
- This agency allegedly reused all of the vtuber assets they had at the time for the current roster of Gen1 Cyberlive talents.
- Additionally, through searching for this post. An anon on /vt/ claims that originally Lia Rinkou was hired in by Yunity to be the "pilot" (aka the person behind the model) of Amaris Yuri model/name along with 4 other girls (Allegedly these girls' roommates are/were Maria Paradisia, Eisei Tsukimaru, an unnamed girl that later went to PRISM, and another unknown Indie that never resurfaced).
- They all quit because they realized something was really wrong before debut.
- Yunity shuttered and rebranded as Cyberlive in April 2021 after this.
- The original gen1 trailer for Cyberlive was apparently a 1 to 1 ripoff of a Vshojo promotional video.
- The first bout of drama that I personally remember was that the first day debutants of talents (Lumi, Hylo, and Yuri) had donation "rewards" that you could contribute to. At the current point in time (2021) doing this was considered yab worthy because holy fuck dude, I don't need to emphasize the GROOMER potential on spending $400 to get a private discord call with a talent.
- This was immediately met with a form of damage control (by management and/or talents reading /vt/ I assume) where they played it off as a "debut only!" thing where Yuri and Hylo tweeted that but Lumi didn't tweet anything.
- The only girls to NOT have these reward tiers were Momozora Seina and Utano Pandora. Who didn't include them in their descriptions because they debuted the next day and saw the backlash.
- Hylo allegedly tried to do damage control on /vt/ and admitted in their official discord that it was her idea early on and encouraged the other girls to do it.
- There are many stories that continue to float around with Mismanagement. I'm trying my best to keep this short as it is late at night. The most important case IMO was that Lumi was appointed as a talent manager after they fired Sato Misaki (who barely did her job in the first place) for everyone iirc while also having to balance out being a streamer at the same time.
- This is where a lot of the hate from other girls and those affiliated with those girls comes from AFAIK.
- Another minor yab was when Ayane Hylo (ALLEGEDLY) got on Tsunderia's shitlist for tweeting out "I can't believe my sister died" in reference to her art-sister Kirihime Ria from Tsunderia graduating (who would later go back to her indie persona of Fuzuki Miki and then later debut as Rosemi Lovelock of Nijisanji EN's Obsydia).
- This was eventually followed by her announcing she'd be graduating from Cyberlive and keeping her IP. Presumably to get the talent that had gotten them on many small-corpo shitlists off their roster.
- Lumi's jannies get a lot of hate because some of them are/were vtuber roommate doxschizos/groomers.
- Cyberlive's CEO apparently begged Lumi to not jump ship but Lumi decided she'd rather be Indie or get a deal with Phase Connect. She managed to convince Amaris Yuri to jump with her and it sunk the agency.
- The agency would "rebrand" for a third time as not an agency but a group of streamer-friends known as Aetheria.
- I don't have much to say about this point in time other than a lot of mean-girling and bitches.
- Aetheria would eventually have a major bout of drama involving Vera Vee. You can read up on that here.
- Menace and Chapipi also moved on to debut in IdolEN which also led to the disbandment of Aetheria.
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I don't trust his intentions in either situation, but he provided something in that doc unlike in Lumi's case where he only said she's the worst, didn't elaborate and made an unnecessary snarky comment about Yuri when someone said they will just take Phase's word instead.
Last one is pretty ironic imo because it was him who told people to ask those who've worked with her, and iirc she worked with Phase longer than him and cyberlive. If he wants us to ask specific people he should be slightly more direct about it. Or he could have never gotten her involved and focused on his own "Emma bad and also married" story. E:Unless she's married to Lumi
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Doing the devil's advocate, Vera lied to possibly* dozens of oilers that hired her as a whore and she got free flights over the country like some high class escort. She did lie about being married, then she lied about the relationship being in a bad situation, then she lied about divorcing. What we don't know is if she's still married after all went down.
All things considered, he's still a fag, happy pride month!
I find it endearing and very dangerous when Ami shows these snipets of GFE/seductive behavior. She's a natural.
Hexa is playing Autopsy Simulator, she's such a retard (positive)
Again? I don't give a shit anymore, last time I got mocked for caring. So "aloof about it all" it is.Guys looks like it's official Hololive is back on China. How long will it last? Let's see.初次见面，我是雨巫师kobo——可波・卡娜埃露【b站限定自我介绍】_哔哩哔哩_bilibili
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The more I think on it, the more I'm thinking there isn't any real dirt on Lumi, and that this all originates from stuff created by a mean girls clique (never underestimate the amount of effort a mean girls clique will put in).
While various reports throughout time is usually a signal of "if there's smoke there's fire," it ends up going in reverse after each time there's simply no evidence. A couple screenshots of Lumi being a bit testy (oh no, she's a woman) I wouldn't even call an indicator for something worse. The most recent thing I've seen is her encouraging other CyberLive girls in private to "beat" each other at their work. I would chalk this up to her tomboy self trying to motivate people. Problem is, while this works just fine for guys, it most certainly does not for girls. So just an error of judgment on Lumi's part.
This may seem like cope and hope because I like Lumi, but right now, this is how this is all coming off to me. Year's of "she's bad" with no evidence, over and over, meanwhile the ones who are saying she's bad are the ones already at odds with her. The more neutral parties who say "I've got dirt but can't show it" may actually be honest, but then I question where they got this "dirt" from...
While various reports throughout time is usually a signal of "if there's smoke there's fire," it ends up going in reverse after each time there's simply no evidence. A couple screenshots of Lumi being a bit testy (oh no, she's a woman) I wouldn't even call an indicator for something worse. The most recent thing I've seen is her encouraging other CyberLive girls in private to "beat" each other at their work. I would chalk this up to her tomboy self trying to motivate people. Problem is, while this works just fine for guys, it most certainly does not for girls. So just an error of judgment on Lumi's part.
This may seem like cope and hope because I like Lumi, but right now, this is how this is all coming off to me. Year's of "she's bad" with no evidence, over and over, meanwhile the ones who are saying she's bad are the ones already at odds with her. The more neutral parties who say "I've got dirt but can't show it" may actually be honest, but then I question where they got this "dirt" from...
As long the talents itself isn't talking about it publicly on their xitter/yt stream/whatever I'm just going to assume it's another one of their gayops, even if Kobo is a (if not the only) plausible person to spearhead the chink market againGuys looks like it's official Hololive is back on China. How long will it last? Let's see.初次见面，我是雨巫师kobo——可波・卡娜埃露【b站限定自我介绍】_哔哩哔哩_bilibili
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Its that or a schizo take is less about Lumi being 100% innocent and more about everyone having dirt where if something actually big comes out everyone's dirty laundry will get out and nobody will win
Even with the people who are retired
To be honest, Nano did not shit on Lumi after her departure from Phase connect (correct me if I am wrong), so I don't think Lumi has any actual dirt.
the only thing he brought as "proof" is her flirting with him because he was into Yoki. Thats it. Its laughable sure. Byt thats such a nothingburger lets be real. Its funny though that he deleted everything except the when she simped for him. Why would he keep only that?
My point isnt to trust what he said about Lumi, it was to point out the double standard when it comes to a vtuber you like.
saw that and went to look at Kakuns different accounts to see what he is up to but he doesn't seem to care much about Kiara at all anymore. He spends most of his days polit sperging and mindlessly reposting far right talking points.
Whatever prompted this, it's not something that happened publicly on his accounts. Some of them look like they haven't been touched since mid 2023.
But, I am still absolutely convinced that its about Kakun. Also, I have come across a set of AI keeki porn a year or more ago on VT, would not surprise me at all if those were from him as well.
But that such a statement is needed at all, is just so damn sad
some other kfp are working on a contingency plan? those things happen between closed doors in spaces, I, as a lurker, am not privy to so idk what that really entails but good for them I guess
You think so?
She talks a lot and streams a lot -> A lot of opportunity to say some shit -> Even more opportunity for schizos to make out what she said to be the worst shit imaginable.
Also makes it incredibly easy to just make up something, because who the fuck will check through 70 hours of streams to confirm it's true?
For all the people who said I should be her manager:
I don't even want to be her manager, but hearing that hurt.
The voice recording talking about coping in the background for this is beautiful.
Ewww someone with ambition that could see her shitty company was dying and bailed before it did? How DARE THAT LEMON WHORE!!
I've literally seen nothing from the Cybercunts or from my own observations that Lumi is bad, I assume anyone actually mad at her is a drooling retard unless they can actually show receipts of something genuinely egregious.
Hylo learned her lesson. You come at the Lemon Queen? You best not miss.
She hasn't said anything as far as I'm aware and she did defend Phase when it was being said that Offkai might be trying to sabotage them, cause she believed that was really shitty and scummy if true. Could also be that Phase has receipts of whatever Yuri actually did to get fired and she doesn't want to risk the fish exposing it.
@Gaotye (bilibili DD) please look if this is another Gay Ops?Guys looks like it's official Hololive is back on China. How long will it last? Let's see.初次见面，我是雨巫师kobo——可波・卡娜埃露【b站限定自我介绍】_哔哩哔哩_bilibili
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I am tired of this shit because people stoned the girls for the past Gay ops and never ever fucking apologized(and those were real fans not even falseflaggers)
Kobo hasnt said a thing in her official accounts
Just like Matsuri and all of the other girls before her that get gay Op'ed by chinks
At this point I dont know if people here are baiting or really fell for obvious gayopGuys looks like it's official Hololive is back on China. How long will it last? Let's see.初次见面，我是雨巫师kobo——可波・卡娜埃露【b站限定自我介绍】_哔哩哔哩_bilibili
初次见面，我是雨巫师kobo——可波・卡娜埃露【b站限定自我介绍】, 视频播放量 389644、弹幕量 285、点赞数 29062、投硬币枚数 6959、收藏人数 6559、转发人数 4722, 视频作者 可波・卡娜埃露Official, 作者简介 Bokobokobo-Kobo Kanaeru 为您服务！让我成为照亮你一天的阳光，嘿嘿~，相关视频：僵尸女高中生来袭！克蕾西・奥莉 b限自我介绍【hololiveID2期生】，【B限切片】童话里的小雨巫~中文翻唱 童话，【holo中文】为什么kobo会中文，Kobo弹唱火遍全网的...
I'm gonna believe in the critical thinking ability of people and say USS Iowa is just baiting.
even the chinese doesn't fall for this gay shit, 10k view on that video, also note that bilibili fakes views so that's about 1000 real human clicked on it.
Last time gaotye even told us most bugmen don't even know who Kobo is, their knowledge of holo dated back to the coco days and never progressed then. I don't think they cared about matsuri either, if you want to fake gayops at least use the actual popular ones to the bugmen like aqua.
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