General Thread v2: Enhanced Segregation Techniques!

[Aquatic Novellite]

The same applies to the GFE audience, with the twist being that they will remain fanatically loyal until the illusion breaks, at which point they will turn on you like a lover scorned (hence the Yuko antis). Coomers are transactional, but GFE attracts a truly schizophrenic audience (though there is significant overlap). If you really want to lean into that content, you have to be ready for it.

As a corollary, I do think that if you go for GFE, you shouldn't do it if you already have a real life relationship. I can clown on unicorns the whole day, but even putting the ethical issues aside, it's absolutely reckless. If this forum and its New Zealand agriculture origins demonstrate anything, it's that you WILL screw up your opsec someday and some autist might figure out your identity. God help you if you're a GFE-tuber with a boyfriend/husband/situationship when that day comes.

Mikeneko demonstrates otherwise, tbh. If anything, the fans are desperate rather than angry. Depressed and clinging to false hopes.

The risk is less in crazy fans (if you're female; BFE might be a different matter. Not sure if it's because female fans or Chinese fans), and more that the GFE streamer has a high probability of being menhera in the first place. I'm getting the impression that GFE is precisely the kind of content that menheras pick as their speciality.

 

[shipmate_F]

The only thing worse than attracting a psychoschizo to your community is developing a mutual parasocial attraction with the psychoschizo that culminates in an actual relationship.

Nuh uh, I would fuck the schizo out of her and gift 3 cubs in the meantime so she gets something to do.

Jokes aside, GFE is definitely more insidous than prostitution, on the sole basis that it comes from the premise that "she cares" and it isn't like that, as chat is an entity, not an individual. Unless the streamer is up to go down to the abyss with their audience, it will eventually dry out, lest not forget about the Amano Nene comiket incident, and they still fell for it when she came back, it's extremely destructive and unless you're a sociopath it will eventually bring you down.

 

[kushami tasukaru]

Ishigami Nozomi suffering in Donkey Kong Country.


774inc's Kohaku Yuri celebrating her birthday with a singing stream.


774's Tsukinoki Tirol explaining her PTSD breakdown with a parody song of Kokoro Odoru.


VSpo's Aizawa Ema the seiso Jojo representative.

 

[RestlessRain]

The sexually-repressed Uruka is at it again:



Oh, and Tenma is being a good coworker and teaching Uruka how to play the game:

 

[Gaotye (bilibili DD)]

Just as mods are what keep many games fresh, hololive's fan work plays a key role for the hololive community. I wish they had more live streams of tasting memes and hand-drawn animations

 

[El Rrata]

Have some cursed content, courtesy of Mumei.

 

[Todd's Strongest Howard]

Nuh uh, I would fuck the schizo out of her and gift 3 cubs in the meantime so she gets something to do.

Jokes aside, GFE is definitely more insidous than prostitution, on the sole basis that it comes from the premise that "she cares" and it isn't like that, as chat is an entity, not an individual. Unless the streamer is up to go down to the abyss with their audience, it will eventually dry out, lest not forget about the Amano Nene comiket incident, and they still fell for it when she came back, it's extremely destructive and unless you're a sociopath it will eventually bring you down.

Why would you want the schizo to go away? That's what makes it so fun. Pass down the mental illness to the next generation and live in constant fear someone might kill you at any time. It's like being a pyrotechnician with an intense smoking addiction while you're loading the pots. You could suffer extreme bodily harm at any minute and your heart is racing the whole time but it's so exciting!

The what now? Is there something more to it or is it just the time she had a woman moment about going to a con?

 

[Willemshaven]

This Nene itasha is just incredible.


Noel talks about PekoMama.


Epic Botan Meal Time. Next time, we eat six Watame's.


At first I thought it was a re-upload, with a new thumbnail, of this video by same animator from two weeks ago. It even has the exact same video length.

 

[shipmate_F]

The what now? Is there something more to it or is it just the time she had a woman moment about going to a con?

She had that woman moment because her schizos became extremely judgemental of her having fun while "leaving them behind" and apparently she did that trip with her boyfriend, but I didn't save anything and couldn't access the litter drops in time. Read this as a rrat as always.
I have a friend that unfortunately falls for GFE and she was his oshi at the time, I didn't ask him directly but he moved on right after that incident and now is falling for another. Maybe I should ask him now, it has been a year already.

E: I guess we got another deadbeat in town




Not on PC, will archive later.

Isn't Mythic the one where Veibae went to?

 

[lakyus]

Reminder that Amiya Aranha doesn't condone what the British would call fags.

I don't condone ciggies!

Sauce

 

[Bronze]

Isn't Mythic the one where Veibae went to?

Yes it is. She is also the vtuber who complained about artist prices in a thread people talked about last december.

Spoiler: Price thread

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Moon jelly did bgm for Maria

 

[Helmet-kun Backwards]

The easy answer would be just to you know not do GFE.

Kizuna AI didn't start out being all "haha you wanna fuck me chat". And none of that "Oh its real until I get uncomfortable" crap that you see with ethots either. It is a symptom of women, and men, taking advantage of a market in a negative way.

And sure, GFE consumers are marks. But GFE streaming should not be encouraged. I may laugh at someone falling prey for an easy scam, but that doesn't mean that I'm gonna let the scammer slide either.

Plus this invasion of GFE streamers, coomerbait streamers has also led to unironic e-prostitution (and RL protistution) in this sector. When it doesn't need any of it. The fact that it has taken off like it has, well then both sides have to deal with the consequences. As the Yuko situation oh it might have seemed big, but like the dumplings one, that shit is forgotten and only known by such a small subset of smarks.

Good luck with that one. This site (rightfully) shits on coomers, but the internet was literally funded by and founded by pervert degenerates. We can proselytize about how it's ruining the industry, corrupting the youth, and whatnot; but we can't get away from it. It may well be in our DNA at this point, given that some form of this debate has existed for the past thousand years at least. I'm sure people in early modern China were angry when Gējì turned to prostitution: rightfully so, perhaps, but it didn't stop the social trend. People in Europe were pissed when Renaissance art started moving away from Christian ideals. Do any of us here give a fuck about the degeneration of European classical art at this point? I'm sure the average Renaissance art critic would LOVE v-tubing models and certainly wouldn't report us to the Pope (or Henry the 8th, for the Anglicans in here).


My point being. GFE will continue to exist because sexualized content is something most people like, and have liked for a long time. Same with coomerbait, same with Fantia NSFW, etc. If you don't like it, support the ones who don't do it: but GFE content isn't invading anything. It's always been around in some form.

Holo has one distinct advantage over Niji in that regards: Idol autism. Only Holo has the equipment, experience, manpower and brand recognition to help you realize your virtual idol dreams. Those who apply to Holo knows they're in it for the long run as it is a guarantee that they will help you however they can so if you're not cut out for that (ahem, Magni and Vesper, ahem) then you're just wasting your opportunity in joining them.

I would not be surprised if Anycolor would fold in the future because their talents have gotten what they want with them. They really need to think of a way to keep their talents because those who left them are doing much better (Selen, Pomu and Chihiro). Like I said before, if Riku doesn't do something this year his company will slowly collapse.

No matter what happens to Anycolor at this point, their days of competing with Holo are over, and IMO it's almost entirely because of the idol autism advantage. The stage performances are not cheap, and there are a ton of other investments that go along with them (namely, music releases and 3D). Holo is the only corpo that has proven that they will invest a ton of money into their performers and WON'T pull the rug out from under them. That's valuable even for the v-tubers who are more invested in the streaming side of things, and it's something Niji's business model doesn't accept.

Ethyria's 3D debut dates are announced

Wow, fucking amazing they managed to pull it off in a couple months after stocks dropping lit a fucking fire under their asses. How long was Nina waiting for her music releases again, much less a 3D model? Oh but hey, someone lit a fire under JP's ass and suddenly: WOW MAGIC 3D I'M SO HAPPY GUIZ. I bet there's going to be a zuttomo bit for "Ethyria's" 3d, just so we can forget that the gen is technically missing someone!

Niji is retarded. Fuckers.

 

[MerelyTourist]

Isn't Mythic the one where Veibae went to?

Eh, someone being signed with Mythic means exactly nothing, it's completely irrelevant in any situation. Same for MSM.

 

[frz]

Shameless self-promotion

 

[21st Century Pipkin Man]

If this is true, then damn.

I found a copy. The context was more like "this is a hard (emotionally taxing) job, it's hard to do when you're not in the right mindset, but I wouldn't want to go back to starbucks or walmart." She implies having a lot of difficulties without going into specifics, and she admittedly was crying quite a bit throughout the stream.
That said, total GFE death.

 

[The Peanut Gallery]

Ceci's turn on the deadly premonition train

 

[Nenélove]

I've been posting for a while Niji, Holo and other corpos are always in danger of turning into the next Buzzfeed where unknown content creators go to be exploited for a few years making content, build up their own fanbase and then leave to do their own successful businesses like the Try Guys, Safiya Nygaard etc. The corpos need to put in the effort and give the talents a reason to stick around, didn't know until recently that Niji was that black of a company and the perfect example lol I also didn't forsee vshojo turning into the niji retirement home.

Except none of the Holo girls have left willingly lol, this is mainly a Niji issue, don't bundle the rest of industry in with them.

• Chris
  • Forced out due to contract breach
• Aloe
  • Forced out due to anti harassment
• Coco
  • Forced out due to anti harassment and poor management
• Sana
  • Forced out due to injury and focusing more on her alt career
• Rushia
  • Forced out due to contract breach
• Mel
  • Forced out due to contract breach

Need i explain the joke?

If you have to explain it then it isn't a joke.

 

[Horo7618]

Except none of the Holo girls have left willingly lol, this is mainly a Niji issue, don't bundle the rest of industry in with them.

• Sana
  • Forced out due to injury and focusing more on her alt career

The injury had gotten a lot better by the time she left, and how exactly is focusing on her other career not leaving willingly???

 

[Nenélove]

The injury had gotten a lot better by the time she left, and how exactly is focusing on her other career not leaving willingly???

Okay then, I'll give you that one.
She didn't exactly get more popular after she left though or "go the way of try guys"

 

[frz]

for the people who actually can understand JP, would love a summary from you guys, but I'm fine if you aint bothered
@Nenélove's oshi proved that idols are not that far away from their fans with the head trauma thing.
Almost 2 hours of "how holomem would express their jealousy if they are in love with Nene", mostly personal headcanon and full on delusional. It's also a part 2.

Polka was invited because she's good at improv but her brain becomes mushed by nene, and so does the listener

Nene brain already non-existent by itself, forgot how to end stream.
I hope this get clipped (probably wont)