Election Spergery 2024 Containment Zone

[agility_]

Oh yeah that's her.
Dunno what was I expecting from a trustfunded quebecoise larping as a japanese popstar but there you go.

 

[Saturnus]

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[JusticeDog]

Everybody seems to have understood that keeping their mouths shut is in ther best interests. Aside from Clara, i guess.

Clara did keep her mouth shut, you retard.

The only reason any of you know what her stance is, is because you had to look for a private alt that has no association with her vtuber account. If you hadn't dug it out, nothing about her vtuber activity would have made you suspect what she thinks.
At least not any more than one would assume just by the fact that she's a woman, just like everyone else that didn't publicly say anything.

 

[Helkar]

Clara did keep her mouth shut, you retard.

The only reason any of you know what her stance is, is because you had to look for a private alt that has no association with her vtuber account. If you hadn't dug it out, nothing about her vtuber activity would have made you suspect what she thinks.
At least not any more than one would assume just by the fact that she's a woman, just like everyone else that didn't publicly say anything.

Yeah you're about 20 pages late, i made that same argument before and, ultimately, agreed with @Hff201's counter-argument that notable RM antics tend to bleed into regular audience territory, see: imbeciles who spammed related messages in the recent Pippa stream. Do i think it's a good thing that they're bringing RM stuff over to corpo accounts? No, i think it's extremely stupid. Am i surprised that they're doing it? Sadly, not really.

 

[VSoyBoy]

Everybody seems to have understood that keeping their mouths shut is in ther best interests.

Not everyone agrees with that perspective. I'm tired of the assumption that everyone thinks or should act the same.

 

[Negzana]

Folks, let me tell you something—it's incredible, absolutely incredible. We’re going to take the doubters, the no-good, low-energy doubters, and we’re going to put them where they belong: in crystals. And these aren’t just any crystals, folks. These are the most beautiful, the highest quality. And you know who’s helping with this? Some call her the Jewel of Emotions? I call her Koseki Bijou. You might know her as Biboo, but I call her Bijou because that’s her name, folks, and we love it, don’t we? She’s Thai, Thais make good great food don't they? Just wonderful people. When they come legally, they’re fantastic Americans, love them.

So Bijou, she has this amazing power. She uses emotions to make crystals. They never tell you how incredible her crystals are—absolutely big league, folks, the best. She’s going to help us seal away all these doubters, folks like Nick Fuentes. Oh, Nick Fuentes. Let’s be honest, folks, I think he’s closeted, maybe for Harris, maybe in other ways, who knows? Sad. And we’re not just talking about him; the neocons too, all these no-good folks who are holding us back from Making America Great Again.

And let me tell you, Bijou’s crystals—nobody’s seen crystals like these, folks. They’re going to be spectacular. If these people had supported us, they wouldn’t be in the crystal. But they made their choice. They could’ve been helping us Make America Great Again like Bijou, but instead, they’re sealed up, and they don’t even have their own crystal. A tragedy, really. Very sad.

 

[Helkar]

Not everyone agrees with that perspective. I'm tired of the assumption that everyone thinks or should act the same.

Fair, let me rephrase that post, everyone seems to have decided that it's in their best interests. That, or they don't have any strong opinions on the matter at all, which is also entirely fair.

 

[JusticeDog]

Yeah you're about 20 pages late, i made that same argument before and, ultimately, agreed with @Hff201's counter-argument that notable RM antics tend to bleed into regular audience territory, see: imbeciles who spammed related messages in the recent Pippa stream. Do i think it's a good thing that they're bringing RM stuff over to corpo accounts? No, i think it's extremely stupid. Am i surprised that they're doing it? Sadly, not really.

It's not the first time I said it either, but people keep seething after finding out something they don't like from looking for accounts they weren't even supposed to know about in the first place. This thread was supposed to be about making fun of vtubers seething about Trump on their main, but it's now just people seething for Clara seething over Trump in private.

The vtuber themselves bringing it over and some other retard that can't keep things to themselves doing it is two completely different things.
It's the same as when people do that with their dox info. What is the vtuber supposed to do? Not have private info so that it can't be shared?

I originally said it in the context of unicorns, but if you're going to get so butthurt over things they do or think in their private life (that, again, has not been seen in their content) then maybe don't look for it in the first place.

You can pretty much guarantee that there's at least a few other vtubers people here watch that have the same sort of opinion that Clara does, but you just don't know. And it could be anyone, even the "based" ones like Pippa and Kirsche. Kirsche bought weed recently, so clearly she can't be  that based. What else is she "lying" about? What if her content is purely for the money and her actual stance is the complete opposite? Can you ever really know? If things like this truly bother you, how can you watch any content creator that you don't personally know in real life?

 

[VSoyBoy]

Fair, let me rephrase that post, everyone seems to have decided that it's in their best interests. That, or they don't have any strong opinions on the matter at all, which is also entirely fair.

The one time half of the posts in a thread are about a single joke and someone still manages to miss it...

 

[Bronze]

Yeah you're about 20 pages late, i made that same argument before and, ultimately, agreed with @Hff201's counter-argument that notable RM antics tend to bleed into regular audience territory, see: imbeciles who spammed related messages in the recent Pippa stream. Do i think it's a good thing that they're bringing RM stuff over to corpo accounts? No, i think it's extremely stupid. Am i surprised that they're doing it? Sadly, not really.

I can see that, but unless mods are cleaning it very fast(or i simply missed them) it happened to pippa more than her chat or kaching as far as I see. Is it really bleeding into regular audience territory if that's the case?

She never directly catered to their(as in vt or pcg) opinions or her channel never felt like a place to have discussions about contemporary issues, so the density of people that acts like that should be low. If anyone tries to stir shit you can just ban them from chat, since if they dislike her because of this they most likely won't ever change their mind, if they'll even watch her again.

 

[Helkar]

The one time half of the posts in a thread are about a single joke and someone still manages to miss it...

Personally, i'm seeing this screenshottweet for the first time.

 

[Helkar]

since if they dislike her because of this they most likely won't ever change their mind, if they even watch her at all.

You can just tag Proctor, y'know.

Is it really bleeding into regular audience territory

I suppose the better question would be "is it going to have an impact". Several people in this thread have announced that they'll no longer support Clara financially, shouldn't be too hard to see if that sentiment is widespread(i don't think it will be tbh. Also Clara is actually one of the faster earners in PC superchat-wise, not surprising i guess, the woman is a real fucking talented entertainer)

 

[Helmet-kun Backwards]

I veehemently disagree with this paragraph here. "Ideological consistency" can mean many things, those being subjective to the individual and their peers, and that's a bullshit argument. People should be allowed to change, even if you don't agree with it, being "consistent" is what stop critical thinking and transform people into baboons that can't adapt. We can only wish people change for the better, for a more tolerant and wise society where no one is left behind. If you're enforcing people to die on the hill of their worldview, what is the point of discussing all this stuff anyway?
I don't know if it's common here but I grew up in an racist household with drug addicts and now I'm one of the few that can speak other languages and tinker with complex machines. If I had "ideological consistency" I would carry retarded cultural values forward and curse the next generation with it as well, be it spending a factory worker's hard earned cash in alcohol for "socializing" or shortening my social horizon and enjoyment of the arts because of skin color.

TL;DR If someone earnestly says "I was being a retard, my bad!" it would do great if people were more receptive.

I suppose that to me, ideological consistency tends to mean something more existential rather than real world habit changing and such: ie, religion, moral stances on things, etc. Meant that paragraph as a response to Proctor's reasoning for liking Kirsche, but your point is completely spot on. Goes to show that maybe I was just as sheltered as people were accusing Clara of being, I suppose. Touché.

 

[God's Strongest Wardog]

but it's now just people seething for Clara seething over Trump in private

If I can read what you write on the Internet, it's not really private, is it?

 

[furaibou]

It's not the first time I said it either, but people keep seething after finding out something they don't like from looking for accounts they weren't even supposed to know about in the first place. This thread was supposed to be about making fun of vtubers seething about Trump on their main, but it's now just people seething for Clara seething over Trump in private.

The vtuber themselves bringing it over and some other retard that can't keep things to themselves doing it is two completely different things.
It's the same as when people do that with their dox info. What is the vtuber supposed to do? Not have private info so that it can't be shared?

I originally said it in the context of unicorns, but if you're going to get so butthurt over things they do or think in their private life (that, again, has not been seen in their content) then maybe don't look for it in the first place.

You can pretty much guarantee that there's at least a few other vtubers people here watch that have the same sort of opinion that Clara does, but you just don't know. And it could be anyone, even the "based" ones like Pippa and Kirsche. Kirsche bought weed recently, so clearly she can't be  that based. What else is she "lying" about? What if her content is purely for the money and her actual stance is the complete opposite? Can you ever really know? If things like this truly bother you, how can you watch any content creator that you don't personally know in real life?

Kirsche is pretty based, having listened to her on Friday Night Tights and It'sAGundam on a number of occasions. Weed has been normalized from Left to Right these days, so that doesn't indicate anything.

 

[The Proctor]

It's not the first time I said it either, but people keep seething after finding out something they don't like from looking for accounts they weren't even supposed to know about in the first place.

Are you a Hexa alt? Does it need to be explained to you in detail how completely retarded this attitude is?

It's.
public.
on.
the.
internet.

It's the public square. You are unironically seething that people standing on one flagstone overheard and are making a fuss about a person on another flagstone yelling 'FUCK THOSE PEOPLE OVER THERE, I HATE THEM AND WANT THEM ALL TO DIE HORRIBLE PAINFUL MEANINGLESS DEATHS'. It's all public, it's all connected, and when you say it in a public space you immediately and automatically lose the right to complain when people judge you for it.

You are a retard if you think otherwise.

 

[shipmate_F]

Kirsche is pretty based, having listened to her on Friday Night Tights and It'sAGundam on a number of occasions. Weed has been normalized from Left to Right these days, so that doesn't indicate anything.

I think people point it out just because it's funny to pick on Bossman.

 

[Nenélove]

Thread status is now black, the needle has gone off the scale.

 

[shipmate_F]

Thread status is now black, the needle has gone off the scale.

@God's Strongest Mozumite aight it's your turn.

 

[Helmet-kun Backwards]

Are you a Hexa alt? Does it need to be explained to you in detail how completely retarded this attitude is?

It's.
public.
on.
the.
internet.

It's the public square. You are unironically seething that people standing on one flagstone overheard and are making a fuss about a person on another flagstone yelling 'FUCK THOSE PEOPLE OVER THERE, I HATE THEM AND WANT THEM ALL TO DIE HORRIBLE PAINFUL MEANINGLESS DEATHS'. It's all public, it's all connected, and when you say it in a public space you immediately and automatically lose the right to complain when people judge you for it.

You are a retard if you think otherwise.

Guys, I get that repeating the Saruei joke is funny but can we stop copying every post she makes at some point?

I mean seriously. Plagiarism is a serious issue that should be treated with the respect it deserves.