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Svarog

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By the way looks like YT culled the subs for FG so check if you get unsubbed.
And really hard.:jellySlurs:

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They'll be fine, council got hit harder. Also all new gens always cause a "moral panic" in their respective market with people trying to curb Holo's success and hating new things. Remember when council was shat on constantly for not being as good as myth or Niji? Remember when HomosEN was basically going to end the world? Remember when /vt/ made Shiori public enemy #1 for literally no reason? Remember when the same happened to ERB and everyone claimed justice was utter shit and Holo had lost their touch?

Happens every time, people hate new things.
 

El Rrata

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I always thought ReGLOSS got hit harder than Council for some reason. Either way, it is bullshit it is still happening.
 

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I always thought ReGLOSS got hit harder than Council for some reason. Either way, it is bullshit it is still happening.
Some people are trying to claim youtube is right and these are real bots lol. Holo hate is at an all time high omegalul, I hope it happens to their corpos too.
 

Limkin

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I always thought ReGLOSS got hit harder than Council for some reason. Either way, it is bullshit it is still happening.
Holofans for all intends and purposes behave like bots around debutes. Not much it can do about it when other companies would very much like to inflate their numbers with bots if YT wasn't cullying them. And Niji fans outright do bot the channel subs
 

Poyoyo & Jill

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Some people are trying to claim youtube is right and these are real bots lol. Holo hate is at an all time high omegalul, I hope it happens to their corpos too.
Nah Nico fans from her 1M channel realized its her and some people that like AKB48 subbed the other 2 girls
The two that came from the indie scene are the less affected from the culling
 

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Nah Nico fans from her 1M channel realized its her and some people that like AKB48 subbed the other 2 girls
The two that came from the indie scene are the less affected from the culling
How does that make them any less real though? They're still their fans, doesn't everyone throw a fucking tantrum fuss over people not being able to follow their oshi around?
 

Poyoyo & Jill

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How does that make them any less real though? They're still their fans, doesn't everyone throw a fucking tantrum fuss over people not being able to follow their oshi around?
I am not saying they are not real but them realizing all together at the same time caused the culling (Because Pajeet Tube thinks they are bots)
I personally just love Nico
 

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I am not saying they are not real but them realizing all together at the same time caused the culling (Because Pajeet Tube thinks they are bots)
I personally just love Nico
Well yeah obviously, hundreds of thousands of people all subscribing at the same time looks damn sus if you're a mindless bot and don't know what a debut is.
 

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Some people are trying to claim youtube is right and these are real bots lol. Holo hate is at an all time high omegalul, I hope it happens to their corpos too.
That would require "their corpo" debuts to even have a significant subscriber count to begin with :smugmoona:

I actually quite like those dorks.
Although I still don't fully get the strategy behind them and regloss
 

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Wixoyu

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I always thought ReGLOSS got hit harder than Council for some reason. Either way, it is bullshit it is still happening.
Proportionally they were, the number I remember seeing was an average loss of around 95% of subs for the gen were culled. They just had less subs to begin with because Dev_Is was new and weird at the time.
 

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Council was devastated and for the ones who didn't regularly stream like Sana, the numbers just didn't bounce back. Not saying that that played a part in her leaving because now I know how she is, but I hate that there's a cubicle at google where some poo-stained pajeet just clicks away making youtube an even worse streaming platform than it was yesterday.
 

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hate that there's a cubicle at google where some poo-stained pajeet just clicks away making youtube an even worse streaming platform than it was yesterday.
Isn't that just Neal ?
 

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I've never understood that. Who are all those people who are simultaneously such invested hardcore fans that they subscribe to a channel before it barely even has any videos AND such casual viewers that when they get unsubscribed they either don't notice it or just shrug and go "Whatever, I can't be bothered to resubscribe"? If it happened to some channel you've been subscribed to for years and that only puts out one video every month, then sure, you might not notice it very quickly, but this is within just a couple of days.
 

Limkin

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I've never understood that. Who are all those people who are simultaneously such invested hardcore fans that they subscribe to a channel before it barely even has any videos AND such casual viewers that when they get unsubscribed they either don't notice it or just shrug and go "Whatever, I can't be bothered to resubscribe"? If it happened to some channel you've been subscribed to for years and that only puts out one video every month, then sure, you might not notice it very quickly, but this is within just a couple of days.
Holo fans generally subscribe to everyone. But when you have hundreds of channels you are subbed to (because they aren't only subscribed to Holo channels) it's very hard to notice someone is missing. Especially when you weren't even planning on watching them regularly. Everyone likes to blame YT on sub culling, but realistically this people aren't all that different from bots
 

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It's not a big deal, just focus on CCV, most subs are people who don't watch anyways.
The first round of these girls was derisively mocked and considered worthless flops for months and now they're beating council and advent in subs.
 

Wixoyu

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On what? Sub growth? Otherwise Raden barely beats Fauna as the top of ReGloss versus the bottom of Promise. Hajime as second highest barely beats Biboo at 2nd lowest for Advent.

Edit: Also what hatefiction are you reading? The biggest thing about them at the beginning was why they are a separate branch, who the fuck was calling them failures?
 

Poyoyo & Jill

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Sub growth? Otherwise Raden barely beats Fauna as the top of ReGloss versus the bottom of Promise. Hajime as second highest barely beats Biboo at 2nd lowest for Advent.
Yeah because its someone that just had their 1st year anniversary VS someone that had been doing it for +3 years
The biggest thing about them at the beginning was why they are a separate branch,
I know people normally dont subscribe to Group channels because they dont do shit but Regloss is perhaps the branch that has the most exclusive channel group content (almost weekly at some point) more than every single JP gen from 0 to 6, EN from 1 to 4, from ID 1 to 3 and every single Homo

Here is their Podcast as an example (audio only)
who the fuck was calling them failures?
Investors,Antis and some of the most hardcore fans that want everyone to have dozens of subs on debut but specially the Investors who cried the hardest
 
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