"When I hold the mic, my pinky finger stands up, is this a problem outside of Japan?"Pako

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Subaru talked about 2 dance practice moments recently:

First, a moment where Aki and Suisei were both wearing outfits with zipped-up chest pockets. She stuck her hand in Aki's and got candy, then stuck her hand in Suisei's and got raw chest.
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Second, she was talking with Nene about self-insert novels/fanfics. She asked Nene to write one for her and Nenechi did exactly as asked, but she sent it in a server with management there for some reason.
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Along with those stories though, a JP bro noticed something interesting. Besides Subaru talking about it, everyone below has tweeted about doing a ton of dance practice recently:
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Lastly, Suisei posted this after ReGLOSS's 3D debut:
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So basically, there's a chance Hoshimatic Project will be coming back sometime:
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It could be another New Years performance but one of her solo lives is pretty close to January 1st so who knows. Looking forward to whatever comet woman is cooking (if something is actually happening).
Please if its really Part 2 let it have Lap,Bae or Bancho 🙏
 

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Happy Birthday Ruze! Here's to more years of tabletop autism, cats and making SEAYamanbas sneed about how you don't wanna see naked kids on French TV shows:ponrys:
Edit: Look at these cute little creatures
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Kanna and Mariya have been cooking the mother of all small corpo/indie karaoke relays
Full line-up:
PixelLink
Kanna Yanagi
Raki Kazuki
Miuna Usako
Lottie Shinju
Chiaki Katsumi
Arisu Oshiro
Daiya Fortuna
V4Mirai
Kou Mariya
Serina Maiko
Yae Yugiri
Mono Monet
REM Kanashibari
Alias Anono
Rara Rocora
idol-EN
Roca Rourin
Poko Rakun
Shabel Tonya
Chikafuji Lisa
Enya Ignis
idol-ES
Ruby Runeheart
Akugaki Koa
Taiga Toragami
VSPO! EN
Remia Aotsuki
globie
Kumanui Miel
Reina Ronronea
Taring Hu
Bonnie Barkswell
V-Dere
Mozumi Pichi
kirispica
Airi Viridis
Elia Stellaria
V&U
Kokone Yurikago
Cyon Hart
Lyora Walkyria
EIEN Project
Amora Lumina
Production kawaii
Tomoe Carmine
Hiyori Mokami
Navina Nova
Specialite
Lumi Yukime
Playasia
Obake PAM
Indies
BriAtCookiebox
Kira Lily
Utano Pandora
Yura Rikudou
Nana Asteria
Pleiades Lillie
Lumin Tsukiboshi
All rock songs, all archived :nenebased:
 
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Can you atleast give us a freebie and tell if its about things people care about here or the usual cavalcade of backstabbing indies/micro corpos
>Some microcorpo no-one has ever heard of fails
>Me, with the most disinterested voice ever: man, that's crazy.
 

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>Some microcorpo no-one has ever heard of fails
>Me, with the most disinterested voice ever: man, that's crazy.
> Proctor: OMG THE INDUSTRY IS LITERALLY FUCKING DYING!
 

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Nako back with Dark Souls 2, taking on the DLC
 

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It took about 2~ years to enter into that goofy cultural gutter from which it has yet to claw out where carrying the water that it was bad became a meme. Remember the 15~ years we spent making fun of Nickelback, who, while not a demonstration of the peak of humanity's grasp of music theory, clearly, is also not nearly as bad as the memes would have you believe, otherwise they wouldn't have sold so well?

Unless you subscribe to the idea that the broad majority of entertainment media is actually just shit anyway, no matter how much it sells or spreads, because almost as commonly as mediocre media becomes the standard because it's safe to produce, easy to slap together and people are conditioned to just accept it because their options are all equally beige uninspired slop, there's also the fact that there are more than enough people in positions to push their own social agenda in media to try to force their own perspective on people hoping to achieve the same kind of mindless consumption that the endless beige enjoys. You can see that all over the place these days and it's not going well, with all the DEI shit going on people are at least pushing back against it to some degree, but it's been a slope for a while that's pushed this kind of stuff out that's flopped and then the people behind it just turn around and cry about racists or bigots for not just enjoying something that is a paint-by-numbers checklist of hot Twitter political topics instead of any kind of enjoyable program.

Thankfully there is pushback and failures keeping this from becoming the norm, but it's that kind of angle that the people behind this kind of stuff are relying on. Being so normalized that it's just accepted without question and bleeds into the zeitgeist of just passing acceptance despite it's inclusion only dragging down all it touches. The general state of media is already pretty dire as it is with more going into retreading familiar and nostalgic ground than actually innovating or trying anything new. Maybe less applicable to music specifically but I'd imagine anything that's safe enough to make regular rounds on public radio has pretty much set the course.

This has been my gay whining on shit I wish wasn't the case. VTubers? I hear you ask. Just look at all the copycats, react andys and other endless cycles of the samey streamers following the big names moves in the hopes they get pulled into the slipstream and don't drown.
 

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Cece is doing an unarchived karaoke in 5 minutes

Archive

Panko is making American breakfast
 
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The Proctor

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> Proctor: OMG THE INDUSTRY IS LITERALLY FUCKING DYING!

I hope you never realize how much this affected Hololive or how interconnected this all is. There's no such thing as an 'obscure niche microcorpo.'

Also, this is sweet.

 

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I hope you never realize how much this affected Hololive or how interconnected this all is. There's no such thing as an 'obscure niche microcorpo.'

Also, this is sweet.


Please tell us instead of vagueposting, I am genuinely interested.
Then we can collectively decide how much of an effect it has instead of being left in the dark.
 

CalciumAnimal

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I hope you never realize how much this affected Hololive or how interconnected this all is. There's no such thing as an 'obscure niche microcorpo.'

Also, this is sweet.


what about VImadeitthefuckupthissecond. or Vthisisanirrelivantmicrocorpo.

Just because there are connections between managements or investors does not mean they are connected that's about the same as saying Corn Flakes and Cheese it's are connected because Kellogg's owns both?

Unless your saying these microcorpos are regularly rubbing elbows with hololive in which case ill just point and laugh.
 

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Kawaii karaoke relay
Tomoe first

full playlist


Yuno playing Shin Megami Tensei



Lollime playing Batman Arkham City
 

The Proctor

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Unless your saying these microcorpos are regularly rubbing elbows with hololive in which case ill just point and laugh.

You act like these corporations are made by nobodies. It costs hundreds of thousands to millions to start up a 'serious' vtuber corporation. The people at the top are all 1%'ers who have their own lines of communication and talk to each other all the time. This is even more true in the Japanese sphere than the EN sphere, because the culture is the same. You think Nijisanji doesn't talk to Hololive all the time about business decisions and how to handle certain situations, or that other corporations don't solicit their advice when something goes wrong on the homefront?
 

Limkin

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I hope you never realize how much this affected Hololive or how interconnected this all is. There's no such thing as an 'obscure niche microcorpo.'
You act like these corporations are made by nobodies. It costs hundreds of thousands to millions to start up a 'serious' vtuber corporation. The people at the top are all 1%'ers who have their own lines of communication and talk to each other all the time. This is even more true in the Japanese sphere than the EN sphere, because the culture is the same. You think Nijisanji doesn't talk to Hololive all the time about business decisions and how to handle certain situations, or that other corporations don't solicit their advice when something goes wrong on the homefront?
Since when Nijisanji is microcorpo? If you want to be a vagueposting femboy at least be consistent with your own messages
 

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You act like these corporations are made by nobodies. It costs hundreds of thousands to millions to start up a 'serious' vtuber corporation. The people at the top are all 1%'ers who have their own lines of communication and talk to each other all the time. This is even more true in the Japanese sphere than the EN sphere, because the culture is the same. You think Nijisanji doesn't talk to Hololive all the time about business decisions and how to handle certain situations, or that other corporations don't solicit their advice when something goes wrong on the homefront?
Some of these microcorpo owners are definitely nobodies or just techbros with VC money. Anyway apart from Niji and Brave why would a massive corpo go take advice from a corpo which is new and has no experience and has just IMPLODED? Seems like a retarded move imo.

Most importantly PROOF? You said on stream the other day you have nothing on Hololive so this just seems like assumptions and speculation. In industries it tends to be the other way around, the biggest corpos set practices that work and everyone else follows suit, I'd like to know how the vtuber industry works bottom to top with the best and most successful corpos being influenced by people who aren't successful at all in the market.
 

RestlessRain

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You act like these corporations are made by nobodies. It costs hundreds of thousands to millions to start up a 'serious' vtuber corporation. The people at the top are all 1%'ers who have their own lines of communication and talk to each other all the time. This is even more true in the Japanese sphere than the EN sphere, because the culture is the same. You think Nijisanji doesn't talk to Hololive all the time about business decisions and how to handle certain situations, or that other corporations don't solicit their advice when something goes wrong on the homefront?
Oh, we're just rratting, rather than discussing this seriously.

Most microcorpos aren't serious, just like most micro businesses in the entertainment. They're made by people that want to groom egirls or someone who's lucked into some money that thought that managing a vtuber company would be a lark. Most microcorpos don't have a business plan, the CEO doesn't understand the vtubing market, and doesn't have any of the necessary skills to run a business, let alone one with as many pitfalls as vtubing does.
 

VSoyBoy

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I have not had a chance to read more than a dozen pages in the last few days because I've been dealing with storm preparations + behind the scenes drama (get ready for a bloody November, everyone!). I haven't heard about either of these things. If people think something is newsworthy, I'd appreciate it if they pinged me about it here or on Discord.
You could have made this post without vagueposting. It would have been better if you made this post without vagueposting.
 

Nenélove

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You could have made this post without vagueposting. It would have been better if you made this post without vagueposting.
He can't because he's likely talking to some talent or ex-manager or something and that person vented and cried to him about all of the shitty things the CEO of their corpo did but told him to not tell anyone, because then some legal shit or drama shit would go down. Proctor can't tell us without that person knowing, and the second Proctor becomes a snitch then the entire EN small corpo and indie scene will be hostile to him because they all know each other, and then he can no longer slip into people's DMs to fish for drama.

The thing is, he vagueposts and forms his opinions around this drama he can't drop, so he ends up arguing against people who do not possess all of the same info as him and that obviously causes arguments. Imagine playing TTRPG with a dude who knows the whole layout of the dungeon and all of the story beats, it would be pretty annoying to try to discuss things with a dude who knows more than you but won't tell you. The smart thing would be to not say anything and stop vagueposting, but that is not gonna happen.
 
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