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General Thread v2: Enhanced Segregation Techniques!

MerelyTourist

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Lol, how context turns something totally negative into something pretty positive.
Fuck you twittard and fuck you /vt/. Give me back my 30 minutes of anxiety and time.
Gura: I'm too much of a neurotic perfectionist and hate how I sound in overly produced songs too much to release anything.
Retards: Hololive is over!!!
The point still stands i think. Restrictions are piling up, and at some point it will turn into "it's a dream job, but i don't recognize the person on screen anymore". Which is, i guess, what happened to Gura. She's a shitposter, and shitposting isn't corpo-friendly. It's japan business, not Wendy's. Pippa is in same position now, how much she can tone it down and change her content without stopping being herself?
 

Tubedude

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She knows that, all her plan was banking in having 4 digits ccv, but the thing that infuriate me is that TESSA KNEW THIS AND DID NOT TELL HER
Tessa is a horrible manager but Alice sounds like she would've kept shopping for someone to be her yes-man, so something like that was an eventuality.
Phase connect and got insta rejected
And I guess this explains why Pippa followed/raided her and some of the other Phase girls followed her. Got rejected by fish but some of the girls heard of it and thought it interesting enough to throw some attention it's way.
 

electronic elephant

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God's Strongest Wardog

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I guess we know why Gura is streaming tonight?

Blood for the blood shark!
Skulls for Atlantis*!
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*Atlantis is never getting finished in Minecraft, so you can skip the skulls.
 

Kalion

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Autistic women playing Roblox:


 

Euthyphro

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VSMP Election Debate in less than 2 hours. Kanna will be moderating:

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Pre-debate POVs already live for Furi:

and Scarlett:

Spectra is out on hiatus, so it's basically a two-way race (not really, it's Furi's to lose).
 

La+ de Central Norte

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Happy Birthday DTTO :sanasmile:
Thank you for always being a good vtuber and a even better friend 🥳
 

Nenélove

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The point still stands i think. Restrictions are piling up, and at some point it will turn into "it's a dream job, but i don't recognize the person on screen anymore". Which is, i guess, what happened to Gura. She's a shitposter, and shitposting isn't corpo-friendly. It's japan business, not Wendy's. Pippa is in same position now, how much she can tone it down and change her content without stopping being herself?
Bro cannot go a day without saying something retarded.
 

God's Strongest Wardog

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Sharing this because it would be real fucking funny that Fuwawa and Mogojohn became characters in a VN.
For no reason, really. :makotomisaki::akiramisaki:
 

Seth

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Bro cannot go a day without saying something retarded.
Merelyatourist opinions on every conversations on this forum is just background noises at this point. You just get so used to it it would become weird if it ever stopped.
 

Nenélove

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Merelyatourist opinions on every conversations on this forum is just background noises at this point. You just get so used to it it would become weird if it ever stopped.
Bro literally be like in the background of every convo
 

shipmate_F

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Joined:  Jun 21, 2023
My 2 cents about the whole Holo doomposting is that entertainment companies should never go public, over the fundamental acknowledgement that if you allow other people to boss your creative output, it stops being "ours" and becomes "theirs".
Never worked before, won't work now. Gura having a bit of menhera and activity in the backstage shouldn't be worth worrying but chumbuds aren't the brightest.
 

dumdum did nothing wrong

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Hina reviewing chat's memes. this will be either good, cringe, or ugly.
 

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Seth

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Consider sending this to your oshi.
 

Shuba Saber

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Translate from Lamy's chat by vtange
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In between 1:38:24 and 1:39:51, she said that the company getting bigger has both pros and cons. It's a little difficult to talk about cause you'd think stuff that happens inside the company shouldn't matter to us as fans, but the fact that it's getting bigger means it has more of a weight to carry. Overall though, she thinks this is a positive thing and hopes that we do the same. And then she goes into what vtange said.

So basically just one big nothingburger lol. NePoLaBo had a great live event this weekend and she was mainly reflecting on that while talking about some other stuff, which included the company's growth. Her tone was positive the whole time and she's looking forward to doing more events like that. Lamy talked about wanting to do a sololive a long time ago but her manager said it'd be tough to make happen for her, cause of her lack of original songs and some other stuff. Seems like the live event reignited her motivations and was good for Gen 5 as a whole.

Ignore twitter retards, look at Wamy's cute new original song:
 

PleaseCheckYourReceipts

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Hololive might be less lucrative but be in a far better place if it wasn't public. It didn't need to be public to do well 2021-22

They needed the funds for all of the build outs. Everyone not in the USA or used to US business doesn't understand how expensive that type of funds can be to acquire for expansion. Also, an IPO allows initial investors a much more transparent avenue to recoup that.


Im reading a twitter thread and now i see your post. Did i miss something? Is hololive dying? Is it over?
The twitter thread:


It's just a random shit stirring weekend.

This girl was always a total moralizing weirdo, she's the female version of merelytourist.

Please share this clip of where lamy says this? The only ones freaking out atm are chumfucks who are mad because their oshi can't release her song for unknown reasons. (Assuming they aren't sisters seething and trying to seed chaos)

I see more and more people trying to fabricate outrage because of "the IPO" "Blackrock owning 0.5%" and "Le investors" with absolutely no proof that any of this is actually happening, keep in mind that Cover went public more than a year ago, why would that affect them now of all times? My belief is this is just typical Holo retardation and lackluster management, same as its been since the beginning. No company is perfect and people were too quick to glorify Holo in comparison to stinky Niji, forgetting how absolutely trash Holo can be at the worst times possible.

The IPO came with a huge build out of the 3D studio & staff. Possibly almost doubling total staff in 2 years while also bringing on 4? new generations in that period. The company is simply a lot bigger and it changes things. There's enough female JP members now that you can't know everyone beyond one or two times seeing them at the studio.


Not saying any of the dooming is true, but it takes time for investors to really start having influence in how a company operates.

Especially for changes to get to the point that we as outsiders can see them. One of the most obvious ones is probably how they are trying to get back into China.

One of the biggest PsyOps of all time and constantly pushed is that "Investors" have any direct say in a Public company. There can be pushes via yearly meetings and voting if major funds after up to something, but that's rare because that's not how things actually go down. What the big investment funds do have is a say in the board of directors. That's where the stupidity, mostly, happens. The problem with Blackrock is that they don't really hold any of the stocks they're causing problems with. They're a management company and those ETF stocks they own let them get people onto Boards. That's where things get stupid. The CEO isn't taking your call even if you own 5% of a public company.

As for Cover, I'm fairly certain we went over their structure when they IPO and none of the voting stock was actually sold off. Something like it was only Class-B stock (Japanese terms for that). Reality is nearly all public companies is there's a small group of people that actually control them and no one else has time to really care about that specific company. Page & Brin controlled the majority of voting stock of Google well into the mid-2010s, so for as much as Google was this massive, massive company, it was basically controlled by 2 men and there was nothing anyone could do about whatever they decided. Structure always matters.
 

Scoots

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Nenélove

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The IPO came with a huge build out of the 3D studio & staff. Possibly almost doubling total staff in 2 years while also bringing on 4? new generations in that period. The company is simply a lot bigger and it changes things. There's enough female JP members now that you can't know everyone beyond one or two times seeing them at the studio.
Mostly the studio, shitting out talents is actually really cheap, as many smaller corpos have proven, specially if you don't overspend on insane models. Holo just does it less because at their size each new gen becomes gradually less profitable compared to costs and it divides the audience.
As for Cover, I'm fairly certain we went over their structure when they IPO and none of the voting stock was actually sold off. Something like it was only Class-B stock (Japanese terms for that). Reality is nearly all public companies is there's a small group of people that actually control them and no one else has time to really care about that specific company. Page & Brin controlled the majority of voting stock of Google well into the mid-2010s, so for as much as Google was this massive, massive company, it was basically controlled by 2 men and there was nothing anyone could do about whatever they decided. Structure always matters.
Also take into account the Yagoo still owns a third of the stock and the company still owns 50% (of the public stocks mind you), the next biggest holder is Ikko at 4% and then everyone else owns insignificant fractions. This whole thing is nothing more than a bunch of discords and antagonistic groups of people conspiring to brew up drama out of gura bitching once and aqua graduating, which will be brought back up again in a few months/a year when there's more drama or another graduation as "LE PROOF!"

The retarded misinformed tweet already got reposted to /vt/ for another round of baseless speculation and baiting, how long until it gets bounced around the entire industry by people who never actually watched the stream it comes from?
 
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PleaseCheckYourReceipts

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Mostly the studio, shitting out talents is actually really cheap, as many smaller corpos have proven, specially if you don't overspend on insane models. Holo just does it less because at their size each new gen becomes gradually less profitable compared to costs and it divides the audience.
They needed the money for the studio, but, during that period, the simple number of members is now enough that you can't know everyone in the company. Public facing or back office. New opportunities but it comes with the "faceless corporation" issue.
 
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