"I'm sorry Pippa, I never meant to make you frustrated or make you think you're not making the right decisions. I'm just sad I was one of the first few to post and didn't get featured. It was never meant to be a gacha moment or a rage comment, I'm sorry I'm really sorry please forgive me if you see this. I know you're trying your best, I know you're doing your best, I don't wanna be seen as that one guy who's just unsatisfied or upset, I'm not a hater like that. I love this community a lot and I wanna continue to see you grow. Thank you so much for all you do, Pippa love"LostAbyssParadox

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niggaphil

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Other people have pointed out that there's a substantial difference between 16 and 18, and they're completely right, but I want to say: imagine all of the great younger corpo vtubers that we'd miss out because MerelyTourist wanted to make a stupid and arbitrary rule like "25 and over only". I like a good hag as much as the next person, but vtubing is filled with talented people who are between 18 to mid-twenties, and losing out on them for no particular reason is retarded.

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Even Cover at a time was guilty of hiring underaged members. And we would have probably never gotten Haachama, and by proxy Coco if not because of it, and by proxy of Coco most likely some other vtubers who were inspired by her, and on and on. At least I think she was under 18 when they hired her originally.
 
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Even Cover at a time was guilty of hiring underaged members. And we would have probably never gotten Haachama, and by proxy Coco if not because of it, and by proxy of Coco most likely some other vtubers who were inspired by her, and on and on. At least I think she was under 18 when they hired her originally.
Haachama was 16 when she debuted.
 

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Other people have pointed out that there's a substantial difference between 16 and 18, and they're completely right, but I want to say: imagine all of the great younger corpo vtubers that we'd miss out because MerelyTourist wanted to make a stupid and arbitrary rule like "25 and over only". I like a good hag as much as the next person, but vtubing is filled with talented people who are between 18 to mid-twenties, and losing out on them for no particular reason is retarded.
Even Cover at a time was guilty of hiring underaged members. And we would have probably never gotten Haachama, and by proxy Coco if not because of it, and by proxy of Coco most likely some other vtubers who were inspired by her, and on and on. At least I think she was under 18 when they hired her originally.
Haachama is valid point, but this is not about legal age etc. Established well-oiled company can take fickle younger talents, but new startup from unknown people? Nah, this is too much of a gamble to me. This is vtubers we are talking about, menhera paradise. At bare minimum, you need some experineced manager who worked with teenage talents before. Which Holo had, afaik (becasue japan and idols)
 

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Haachama is valid point, but this is not about legal age etc. Established well-oiled company can take fickle younger talents, but new startup from unknown people? Nah, this is too much of a gamble to me. This is vtubers we are talking about, menhera paradise. At bare minimum, you need some experineced manager who worked with teenage talents before. Which Holo had, afaik (becasue japan and idols)
Imagine arguing that Pippa and Lia shouldn't have been hired by Phase Connect.
 

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Stories like this is why Kiara is my kamioshi.

The part Kiara didn't want to read out loud was her mother just casually telling everyone that she was worried about her daughter entering the sex trade, wasn't it?

That seems like a very Mamatori thing to just casually drop in a conversation.
 

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Stories like this is why Kiara is my kamioshi.

Even though this was a sad story, what stood out to me when listening to her yesterday was her saying she learned Japanese in a short time after being rejected for the program. Her linguistic skills really are impressive.
 

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Imagine arguing that Pippa and Lia shouldn't have been hired by Phase Connect.
Fishman took all the gambles and won (with one small exception of Yuri), but a lot of similar startups failed. Before debut even.
 

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Haachama is valid point, but this is not about legal age etc. Established well-oiled company can take fickle younger talents, but new startup from unknown people? Nah, this is too much of a gamble to me. This is vtubers we are talking about, menhera paradise. At bare minimum, you need some experineced manager who worked with teenage talents before. Which Holo had, afaik (becasue japan and idols)
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First year Hololive was a Chaos : in the same Gen 1 Hitomi Chris got terminated weeks after debut
 

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Haachama is valid point, but this is not about legal age etc. Established well-oiled company can take fickle younger talents, but new startup from unknown people? Nah, this is too much of a gamble to me. This is vtubers we are talking about, menhera paradise. At bare minimum, you need some experineced manager who worked with teenage talents before. Which Holo had, afaik (becasue japan and idols)
>etablished, well oiled company
Haachama was Hololive's sixth talent to debut.

Not sixth generation. Sixth talent.

At a time when Hololive ran straight into the Hitomi Chris termination and a few months before Mel's manager started harrassing her.

I don't know what your definition of "established, well oiled company" is, but I don't think Hololive, circa June 2018 is matching it.

I'd not allow underaged talents if I were to run a vtuber corp due to how sexualised the industry is, not wanting to deal with adolescent starlets, not wanting to deal with adolescent starlets' parents, and believing that streaming should be a hobby first, therefore have something you can fall back on if streaming doesn't work out, and that's just not going to happen if you start at sixteen or whatever, but describing 2018 Hololive as established and well oiled is... well, I'd have rated it a baitpost if it wasn't from you.

You're probably serious.
 

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The part Kiara didn't want to read out loud was her mother just casually telling everyone that she was worried about her daughter entering the sex trade, wasn't it?
Meanwhile all of Mika's friends think she is a camgirl, because mother of one of them misunderstood what she is doing for a living during a conversation, and made sure everyone knows Mika is a whore.
 

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After considering the information carefully and thoroughly, I can only come to one conclusion - MerelyTourist has a humiliation fetish and posts his most retarded takes solely for us to mock him for it. Even a retard like Nolan occasionally has a correct take, if only by coincidence. On the other hand, if MerelyTourist is right you still want to mock him for doing it such a way you still want to disagree with him.
 

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Other people have pointed out that there's a substantial difference between 16 and 18, and they're completely right, but I want to say: imagine all of the great younger corpo vtubers that we'd miss out because MerelyTourist wanted to make a stupid and arbitrary rule like "25 and over only". I like a good hag as much as the next person, but vtubing is filled with talented people who are between 18 to mid-twenties, and losing out on them for no particular reason is retarded.

My life would be much different right now if there were no vtubers under 25, that's for sure.
 

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