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NeneLOVE · Apr 7, 2024

frzned said:
for the people who actually can understand JP, would love a summary from you guys, but I'm fine if you aint bothered
@Nenélove's oshi proved that idols are not that far away from their fans with the head trauma thing.
Almost 2 hours of "how holomem would express their jealousy if they are in love with Nene", mostly personal headcanon and full on delusional. It's also a part 2.

Polka was invited because she's good at improv but her brain becomes mushed by nene, and so does the listener

Nene brain already non-existent by itself, forgot how to end stream.
I hope this get clipped (probably wont)

This is nothing except :nenebased:

in my books. True husbands know Nene is actually really menhera and delusional.

SpringKusa · Apr 7, 2024

The Rrat said:
IDK, maybe I mean the whole package. The song felt more like Sparks, DO U, or 4BLOOD than anything on POV. She made Point of View's art muted to try and initially hide the weeb shit. The jacket art for Chimera is super anime, too. Maybe I just didn't like the songs on Point of View as much as I originally thought. Nothing on that really felt like Chimera or the other songs I mentioned, imo.

Yeah, it does feel more like a KIRA song (like Sparks and DO U) than most of the stuff on her album

I just think PoV she just chose the wrong song to be main song, Pineapple isn't all that good but Kiara really wanted a Summer party song. Retrospective is a much better song because for once she also co-wrote it and it has a bit more of a rock feel, but Kiara isn't confident enough to push that song. But that nothing on PoV sounds like DO U of Chimera is on purpose, she made the album to try new things out.

But Chimera is one of her best songs to date, the MV is second only to DO U, and other Holos as well seem to like it, so hopefully that success will help her brainworms.

I am totally normal about takamori, this will not at all spur my brain on for weeks to come

21st Century Pipkin Man · Apr 7, 2024

I'm going to plug this upcoming stream because I think it's interesting and a really terrible idea, the kind of shit I watch indies for. Come have your trauma discussed by an autistic sociopath on Wednesday, as she drinks and smokes!

Punished Lurker · Apr 7, 2024

shipmate_F said:
She had that woman moment because her schizos became extremely judgemental of her having fun while "leaving them behind" and apparently she did that trip with her boyfriend, but I didn't save anything and couldn't access the litter drops in time. Read this as a rrat as always.
I have a friend that unfortunately falls for GFE and she was his oshi at the time, I didn't ask him directly but he moved on right after that incident and now is falling for another. Maybe I should ask him now, it has been a year already.

I remember hearing something about that, as you say I remember something happened when she went to comiket but I don't know any of the details. If you do ask him about what happened please post here what he said, I am interested now

Helmet-kun said:
No matter what happens to Anycolor at this point, their days of competing with Holo are over, and IMO it's almost entirely because of the idol autism advantage. The stage performances are not cheap, and there are a ton of other investments that go along with them (namely, music releases and 3D). Holo is the only corpo that has proven that they will invest a ton of money into their performers and WON'T pull the rug out from under them. That's valuable even for the v-tubers who are more invested in the streaming side of things, and it's something Niji's business model doesn't accept.

I think that depends, on the JP side I think they could still compete with holo depending on what they do from now on, but on the western sphere I think they can't anymore. It's gotten to the point where it sounds strange for me to think that at one moment in time Vox was competing at almost the same level as Gura (I think? I wasn't very present for that period of time so the details are hazy)

Helmet-kun said:
I bet there's going to be a zuttomo bit for "Ethyria's" 3d, just so we can forget that the gen is technically missing someone!

... I hate how right you are, they are totally going to pull that.

It's incredible how hard Niji fumbled the bag with EN

Sankisei · Apr 7, 2024

Horo7618 said:
The injury had gotten a lot better by the time she left, and how exactly is focusing on her other career not leaving willingly???

I can argue that she was forced to focus on her other career because GachaChinks love her
And well Holo didnt welcome Chinks fan anymore let alone play their Gachas

shipmate_F · Apr 7, 2024

I was watching Dr.Nova's debut and got this specific snipet:

16:08 if the timestamp doesn't work

Is this kayfabe or is she indeed portuguese? I don't know many besides Nako and Nikkei, she also doesn't pronounce "Cristiano Ronaldo" as a portuguese would, maybe grew up in the US?
I swear these new V4Mirai girls are driving me insane because they feel so familiar yet I can't point my finger where, maybe I shouldn't have watched more than 500 creators over the last year, I'm becoming my own schizo.

Saturnus · Apr 7, 2024

MerelyTourist said:
I've been telling this since Zaion.

Shuba · Apr 7, 2024

Towa isn't feeling so good after a busy couple of weeks :inatiredl:

Nene has the perfect solution though.

Todd's Strongest Howard · Apr 7, 2024

shipmate_F said:
She had that woman moment because her schizos became extremely judgemental of her having fun while "leaving them behind" and apparently she did that trip with her boyfriend, but I didn't save anything and couldn't access the litter drops in time. Read this as a rrat as always.
I have a friend that unfortunately falls for GFE and she was his oshi at the time, I didn't ask him directly but he moved on right after that incident and now is falling for another. Maybe I should ask him now, it has been a year already.

E: I guess we got another deadbeat in town

Not on PC, will archive later.

Isn't Mythic the one where Veibae went to?

Considering how much Cloudhoe has piggybacked off other streamers/company drama in order to clickbait for views, I wouldn't put it past her to be in a relationship while deep in GFE. The amount of times in the past when I used to bother with her streams and she chalked up background/house movement sounds to 'the man upstairs' who I think she insinuated was some kind of relative or something, nah man. When my girl moved her setup into my apartment she went from a household of 5 to just us, but she kept using the explanation that she lives with family for any sounds of other people in the background.

Honestly, I find the idea of being drawn into GFE so deep you get actually heartbroken when it's not real to be actually insane. I still listen to GFE ASMR content now and then because I like the fantasy ideation but I know half these women are whispering "I love you baby" into a microphone for an hour or two then getting dicked down by their partners later that night and I don't give a shit. I don't get why it's so hard for people to detach the content and the creator and just appreciate the fantasy these people are making. I will continue to blame the consumers that swallow the hook for doing it to themselves, you can consume GFE without becoming delusional about it, but these people throw themselves in so hard they let themselves get exploited and then get mad because an actor doesn't love them for real for real.

If they wanted to be smarter with their money, they could hire a GFE escort, get all the kind of care and attention of a GFE experience for real with the bonus you get to fuck them too. If they're going to akasupa or donate hundreds of dollars a month to some woman who will never touch them IRL, they could instead put that $600~$700 into having a real (pretend) date with a real (actual) woman they get to have sex with AND, if they're a decent professional, will even provide some aftercare to feed into that emotional connection as it can lead to repeated bookings.

>a twitch clique filled with assmongoloids being laden with dirtbags

You don't say.

Thomas Talus · Apr 7, 2024

Willemshaven said:
Parrying 101 and more with Usada Pekorrrrrra.

She has discovered how to play Eltwo Ring.

NotDecatto · Apr 7, 2024

Punished Lurker said:
... I hate how right you are, they are totally going to pull that.

It's incredible how hard Niji fumbled the bag with EN

They were already on a slow decline from Oct to Dec 2023, where good streams and interesting events were far and few in between. I can recall Calm Lurker (what’s your new name now?) talking about how empty it felt like as a NijiEN fan as the only consistent streamers were Aia and Reimu.

Funny how Riku and the NijiEN management think that producing 3D content will save them from the upcoming apocalypse. The only good side from this Niji shitshow is that 3-view indies and small corpos have benefited from the shift in viewership.

Watamate · Apr 7, 2024

Nenélove said:
Except none of the Holo girls have left willingly lol, this is mainly a Niji issue, don't bundle the rest of industry in with them.

Chris

Forced out due to contract breach

Aloe

Forced out due to anti harassment

Coco

Forced out due to anti harassment and poor management

Sana

Forced out due to injury and focusing more on her alt career

Rushia

Forced out due to contract breach

Mel

Forced out due to contract breach

If you have to explain it then it isn't a joke.

Sana one has been rebutted already, but I also disagree about Coco being forced out.

Did Cover drop the ball with how they handled the whole Taiwan and Anti-Situation? I don't think anyone would disagree with that. But in the end they made the right decision with just dissolving Hololive CN and leaving Bilibili. Which honestly, in the long term has been a good decision in my opinion. Imagine a Hololive that is still beholden to Winnie the Pooh? Do you think Taiwan would have had any collabs with Hololive?

Cover did actively try to combat the harassment she got. But sadly a lot of the issues at the time stemmed with YouTube's shit way of dealing with mass botting, an issue that is still ongoing as is noticeable by the constant viewbotting by butthurt /vt/ users. And during Coco's interview with Yagoo, they both express that they really tried to find a common ground whereby Coco could stay in Hololive, but just couldn't come to an agreement.

None of this screams that she was in fact forced out.

Ensok · Apr 7, 2024

frzned said:
for the people who actually can understand JP, would love a summary from you guys, but I'm fine if you aint bothered
@Nenélove's oshi proved that idols are not that far away from their fans with the head trauma thing.
Almost 2 hours of "how holomem would express their jealousy if they are in love with Nene", mostly personal headcanon and full on delusional. It's also a part 2.

Polka was invited because she's good at improv but her brain becomes mushed by nene, and so does the listener

Nene brain already non-existent by itself, forgot how to end stream.
I hope this get clipped (probably wont)

Pretty accurate Kanata placement.

NeneLOVE · Apr 7, 2024

Watamate said:
Sana one has been rebutted already, but I also disagree about Coco being forced out.

Did Cover drop the ball with how they handled the whole Taiwan and Anti-Situation? I don't think anyone would disagree with that. But in the end they made the right decision with just dissolving Hololive CN and leaving Bilibili. Which honestly, in the long term has been a good decision in my opinion. Imagine a Hololive that is still beholden to Winnie the Pooh? Do you think Taiwan would have had any collabs with Hololive?

Cover did actively try to combat the harassment she got. But sadly a lot of the issues at the time stemmed with YouTube's shit way of dealing with mass botting, an issue that is still ongoing as is noticeable by the constant viewbotting by butthurt /vt/ users. And during Coco's interview with Yagoo, they both express that they really tried to find a common ground whereby Coco could stay in Hololive, but just couldn't come to an agreement.

None of this screams to point out that she was in fact forced out.

Would she have stayed if the taiwan drama didn't happen though? All of what you said is irrelevant to that.

Horo7618 · Apr 7, 2024

Watamate said:
Sana one has been rebutted already, but I also disagree about Coco being forced out.

It did seem like there was an element of fuckery with her in Holo management, though - she was being told to stay away from EN for a while, having projects denied, etc - it didn't sound entirely unlike some of what we've heard from Niji more recently... It may have been more of a factional thing (some wanted her gone, others including Yagoo wanted to keep her) but it did seem like a significant factor in her deciding to leave....

YGO Link Monster · Apr 7, 2024

NotDecatto said:
They were already on a slow decline from Oct to Dec 2023, where good streams and interesting events were far and few in between. I can recall Calm Lurker (what’s your new name now?) talking about how empty it felt like as a NijiEN fan as the only consistent streamers were Aia and Reimu.

Funny how Riku and the NijiEN management think that producing 3D content will save them from the upcoming apocalypse. The only good side from this Niji shitshow is that 3-view indies and small corpos have benefited from the shift in viewership.

Calm Lurker is Punished Lurker now LOL

NotDecatto · Apr 7, 2024

YGO Link Monster said:
Calm Lurker is Punished Lurker now LOL

lol I can’t keep up with the name changes sometimes

Cubanodun · Apr 7, 2024

Apparently the relationships between the United States of Hololive and the Socialist Republic of Nijisanji Livers has been restored

Compressed jpg · Apr 7, 2024

21st Century Pipkin Man said:
I'm going to plug this upcoming stream because I think it's interesting and a really terrible idea, the kind of shit I watch indies for. Come have your trauma discussed by an autistic sociopath on Wednesday, as she drinks and smokes!

Time to write a schizo masterpiece.

Marinade · Apr 7, 2024

shipmate_F said:
She had that woman moment because her schizos became extremely judgemental of her having fun while "leaving them behind" and apparently she did that trip with her boyfriend, but I didn't save anything and couldn't access the litter drops in time. Read this as a rrat as always.
I have a friend that unfortunately falls for GFE and she was his oshi at the time, I didn't ask him directly but he moved on right after that incident and now is falling for another. Maybe I should ask him now, it has been a year already.

E: I guess we got another deadbeat in town

Not on PC, will archive later.

Isn't Mythic the one where Veibae went to?

She's done at least one video on an artist that possibly scammed vtubers (neonbeat drama) clickbait (as many do) and appears to be a small content creator who is hungry for views in the first place.. which means buying expensive commissions might not be the best move economically.
Just from a quick search I could find a fansly too, so maybe she can afford it at the end of the day, but she'd also not be the first person to spend more than they can afford on fanart or their characters as anyone that has interacted with the FFXIV community might know and she has complained about the prices before.

I'm not used to actually posting here so, I'll just say you can probably find far more if you dig deeper into it.

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