General Thread v2: Enhanced Segregation Techniques!

Sankisei said:

No
I think the event was called "Apex Legends Matsuri" or something like that
She was supposed to participate with these 2 guys (i dont remember their names)

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Again. Stop dodging the question. I said she's blacklisted from CR events because of mafumafu connections.
Just because some OTHER event organizer also blacklisted her, doesn't mean CR don't. CR is not just apex legends btw, they do rust, they do ARK, they do pokemon, they do streetfighters, they do GTA, etc. and they literally whitelisted random 3-view vtubers into their server. Did mikeneko enter any of these servers?
"Walmart blacklisted Tom" "But Walgreen blacklisted Tom" "Have you ever seen Tom coming into Walmart?" "But there is this Walgreen event Tom is kicked out of". This was literally our exchange.
Mikeneko didn't complain about getting blacklisted by CR on stream because she didn't want bring mafumafu related stuff to her audience and they might dig out the reason why, there were/are also lawsuits going on as well. There's no reason for CR to publicly disclose such a petty blacklisting either and also Mikeneko can claim damage if they actually do.

Poyoyo & Jill said:

I am pretty sure there is a clip where someone asks Kson why she doesnt join VCR ARK Server and she outrights says that Nijisanji Blacklisted her
If that its true then Njijsanji at least has some pull in their servers

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Kson said Nijisanji, but I doubt CR wanted the chinese attention either and dodge behind Nijisanji name. Just looking at how much collateral damage Kagura Mea suffered for example. Anyway if Rika is not allowed to participate. Then we know Holo actually asked for it. Hence my "maybe Holo get exposed for also being black" comment.

On more positive news, Polka got discharged and Nene talked about a Nepolabo collab coming soon?

GOD'S STRONGEST BUILDERBEAR said:

TL : DR - stop doomposting naggers, we aren't fucking dying.

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Tbf my initial comment was an obvious exaggeration and i did not think 2 page + discussion would follow.

I just want a balance between kayfabe and rl in actual VTubing streams. I enjoy hearing about daily life shit. 100% kayfabe all the time wouldn't be possible. On the flipside, I don't mind if they has an alt personal account that breaks it, but when they do it on their main, it breaks that balance.

The Rrat said:

I wouldn't even watch female streamers before they were anime. VTubers pretty much changed my perception of streaming entirely.

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I didn't watch streamers at all before I started watching vtubers, and I still don't watch any that aren't vtubers.

21st Century Pipkin Man said:

What I like most about vtubing is that you can make it no matter what you look like. Looking like shit is a massive debuff for regular streamers, and I'd expect it would make streaming completely infeasible for women in particular, as sad as it is.

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And yet, if the photos we've seen are to be believed, all of the girls in Hololive and Phase Connect are good looking. Maybe the uggos are all indies or work for other corpos?

Koronesuki said:

Maybe the uggos are all indies or work for other corpos?

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Not really, most vtubers are atleast somewhat attractive.

theres more ugly fucking bitches in camwhore and porn industry if you think about it

GOD'S STRONGEST BUILDERBEAR said:

cuckman is shondo pederast
color me surprised!

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Nah, she gatekeeps even me, i cant survive her streams. I only watch some clips now and then.

The Rrat said:

I wouldn't even watch female streamers before they were anime. VTubers pretty much changed my perception of streaming entirely.

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Same. Without the mask girls tend to be boring as fuck. Kayfabe serve as conversation starter and fallback running gag.

Koronesuki said:

Maybe the uggos are all indies or work for other corpos?

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all uglies are VTweeters bitching about trans rights and palestine, sometimes in same sentence

Koronesuki said:

I didn't watch streamers at all before I started watching vtubers, and I still don't watch any that aren't vtubers.

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I used to watch a lot more, now there are only like 5 fleshies I bother watching and only outside of my favorite VTuberss' stream times.

GOD'S STRONGEST BUILDERBEAR said:

theres more ugly fucking bitches in camwhore and porn industry if you think about it

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I'd rather not think about ugly whores if I can avoid it, but you're probably not wrong.

Koronesuki said:

I didn't watch streamers at all before I started watching vtubers, and I still don't watch any that aren't vtubers.

And yet, if the photos we've seen are to be believed, all of the girls in Hololive and Phase Connect are good looking. Maybe the uggos are all indies or work for other corpos?

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That's a bit dense. Generally, people who look unfortunate seek to not have pictures of themselves online(outside of persons of gender), so you simply won't be able to confirm it.

Seth said:

You would be surprised. GTA RP servers have been dominating twitch for a while now. Its obviously not the same as vtubing but its the closest to it. I used to watch gta rp before vtubers exactly because streamers are playing a character that doesnt bring in shitty politics and whatnot. Well at least it used too.

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Yeah, the sentiment of 'fuck culture wars' is why a lot of us are here, after all. It's all so tiresome.

GOD'S STRONGEST BUILDERBEAR said:

Not really, most vtubers are atleast somewhat attractive.

theres more ugly fucking bitches in camwhore and porn industry if you think about it

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People's inner self do peek out a lot, despite what that saying 'don't judge a book by its cover' implies. Ugly, bitchy people can never escape themselves no matter how much they try to cover up.

That said I'm yet to see the fucking nurgle that is mozumi so i might be wrong

2 new covers
From our wife


from Zephyrianna


Ruru's and Rumi's asmr stream


Bam paying Monhun World in a hour


Fatum Ruptor with BG3 in a hour too

frzned said:

Kson said Nijisanji, but I doubt CR wanted the chinese attention either and dodge behind Nijisanji name. Just looking at how much collateral damage Kagura Mea suffered for example. Anyway if Mel are not allowed to participate. Then we know Holo actually asked for it. Hence my "maybe they are also black comment".

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Now you are pulling shit out of your ass
Why would a Japanese Team that creates a server for mostly japanese content creators care about what some angry chinks have to said?

Svarog said:

2 new covers
From our wife

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Going back to her faux Chinese roots I see. Very nice.

White Stone said:

Have we ever had a case of "good indie friends" of existing Hololive talents getting into Hololive? At most we have only seen small interactions (like Ollie appearing in not-Bae chat). Imagine if someone like Miori getting into Hololive, it would feel really weird for the fans.

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White Stone said:

I should be more specific. I meant good friends who constantly interact and even collab with the Hololive talents. I think Kamiya Juu only appeared as a guest in Ollie's birthday once, and I don't think Namie ever interacted with Ina account. Hence I used the example of Miori, who constantly interacts and collabs with Bae.

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There's no "constantly" but there have been a handful of collabs.

Obviously Ollie guested Kamiya Juu once.
Nobuhime Oda and Tokino Sora interacted often, and mega and Sora appeared in the same stream event at least once. I would say this is the closest to the "good friends on the Holo account" situation.
Amatsuka Lilyel played Among Us on stream with AZKi and Mel.

For things that definitely don't count, Kiara liking Caitlyn's comments, and the Keeki superchat on a Pekora stream.

frzned said:

"In" doesn't mean shit to Hololive's recruitment team. Gamers was an anomaly and it also hasn't happened since 2019.

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I don't know if we can say it means nothing at all, just not much.

In 2021 we had Sana who as Namie was known to be good friends with Nagu (Ina). In 2021 we also had IRyS, who had done multiple song covers as namirin with Rika (Mel). In 2021 we also had Lui, who had done a song cover as Eclair with Rika also. In 2020 we had Polka, who interacted often as Nobuhime with Sora, appeared on stream as mega with Sora, and did a song collab as mega with Narumi (Towa).

Going back to 2019 and not listing Gamers, 2019 debut Kanata had done a cover as Nozomu with Nayuta (AZKi). 2019 also had Pekora, who as 110 was good friends with Mashiro Kohina (Miko). As a 2018 debut AZKi had also done a cover as Nayuta with Rika.

I likely didn't catch all the JP utaite collabs, nor the JP Niconico streamer collabs, and didn't look into any Holostars. But it's not that big a community.

frzned said:

If you look at the newest gen, now that he actually cares who he hires, he will never recruit a Pippa and strive to become an idol company, and the further gens will look the same as this newest one.

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Sakana is still taking chances on hiring sad girls with baggage, albeit with significant experience. You could still get another Pippa. There could already be a Pippa just waiting to ripe'n up. He may want to be an Idol company but he's prioritizing entertainment value.

Spicy Summary of Today's Namirin stream:

Bug Eater said:

I guess Proctor is asleep?
(a)
At least they get to keep their models.

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Um... I think this one might be on me, announcement at the apex of my REM sleep.
Good that they at least have the decency to leave them with the assets, good luck yellow penguin.

Now I'm scared for the following march announcements, wouldn't be surprised if someone died during my birthday considering my recent lack of luck. Sorry in advance

Titanosaurus said:

Sakana is still taking chances on hiring sad girls with baggage, albeit with significant experience. You could still get another Pippa. There could already be a Pippa just waiting to ripe'n up. He may want to be an Idol company but he's prioritizing entertainment value.

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He might not have to. Phase-Connect is large enough that all of gen3 got to start as 3views, while gen2 had to grind up from very humble 2view numbers iirc. There's just no need to take risks if you're guaranteed an audience.