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Why does Kiara keep winning these fucking polls? May God smite all those who voted for her and Elizabeth but at the very least It'll be funny watching her have to do all these collabs

We need a final solution to the KFP question.
 

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Why does Kiara keep winning these fucking polls? May God smite all those who voted for her and Elizabeth but at the very least It'll be funny watching her have to do all these collabs

This poll was a lot closer tho
Kiara won by a tiny 0.1% magin

For the longest time Kiara was behind both Liz and Shiori
Then Kiara overtook Liz but was still behind Shiori almost the entire day

I did not expect her to win at all.
As with the other poll, there were a lot of fans rallying and promising stuff to gather votes

(Twitter is being ass rn and wont show me the QRTs so just imagine them)
But it was basically lewd art and updates to Fanfics in favor of BloodRaven and ShioRaven


But I do want to point out this guy (an oomf of the usual Council sisters) having a crashout over this poll









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my guy, its a random ass twitter poll its not worth a meltdown like that
 
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Nothing says stable, well adjusted individual than going on a multi-tweet rant about a fucking twitter poll that didn't get the result you wanted personally.
 

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Todays top headline;
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She liked it.
Now back to SpringKusa for todays twitter schizo forecast.
 

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This poll was a lot closer tho
Kiara won by a tiny 0.1% magin

For the longest time Kiara was behind both Liz and Shiori
Then Kiara overtook Liz but was still behind Shiori almost the entire day

I did not expect her to win at all.
As with the other poll, there were a lot of fans rallying and promising stuff to gather votes

(Twitter is being ass rn and wont show me the QRTs so just imagine them)
But it was basically lewd art and updates to Fanfics in favor of BloodRaven and ShioRaven


But I do want to point out this guy (an oomf of the usual Council sisters) having a crashout over this poll










(Archives not working rn)

my guy, its a random ass twitter poll its not worth a meltdown like that



Seems like Kiara might have seen that thread (no surprise because she ego searches a lot)
 

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This poll was a lot closer tho
Kiara won by a tiny 0.1% magin

For the longest time Kiara was behind both Liz and Shiori
Then Kiara overtook Liz but was still behind Shiori almost the entire day

I did not expect her to win at all.
As with the other poll, there were a lot of fans rallying and promising stuff to gather votes

(Twitter is being ass rn and wont show me the QRTs so just imagine them)
But it was basically lewd art and updates to Fanfics in favor of BloodRaven and ShioRaven


But I do want to point out this guy (an oomf of the usual Council sisters) having a crashout over this poll










(Archives not working rn)

my guy, its a random ass twitter poll its not worth a meltdown like that

This dude obviously overreacted, but he did have a point that KFPs do take polls like this really really seriously and have tendency to do a lot of rally in order to rig the polls to their oshi's favor.

I still remember something that happened a long time ago. There was a poll on twitter, I can't remember exactly what is it about since it was a long time ago, but I think it was a poll from an artist and the winner get an art drawn by said artist. As usual KFPs got to work and rig the poll as hard as they can. But there was a twist, other fanbases also decide to rally and rig the poll. I don't remember the end result but at one point Ame got more votes than Kiara. The Ame fan discord got raided by what I believe a very angry KFP calling the teamates names and such. When being told that the KFPs were also rigging the poll, the only reply he made was "the KFP deserves to rig the poll, you all don't".
 

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This dude obviously overreacted, but he did have a point that KFPs do take polls like this really really seriously and have tendency to do a lot of rally in order to rig the polls to their oshi's favor.

I still remember something that happened a long time ago. There was a poll on twitter, I can't remember exactly what is it about since it was a long time ago, but I think it was a poll from an artist and the winner get an art drawn by said artist. As usual KFPs got to work and rig the poll as hard as they can. But there was a twist, other fanbases also decide to rally and rig the poll. I don't remember the end result but at one point Ame got more votes than Kiara. The Ame fan discord got raided by what I believe a very angry KFP calling the teamates names and such. When being told that the KFPs were also rigging the poll, the only reply he made was "the KFP deserves to rig the poll, you all don't".
The key point everyone is forgetting is that, even if you might be correct, you have to not type it like a schizo.
 

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I like how organized voting is called rigging now. KFP's strength is they are basically Kiara's brown shirts.
 

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Let us all judge cult fanbases by the actions of a lifeless demented schizoid. That's how profiling works after all.
 
Summary of Moona's 1st album stream New

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Translated summary of Moona's stream about her first album "PANDORA". [Shop link]

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Overview​

As you know, Moona releases her first album "PANDORA", which is also the first album from HoloID. She explained the details of each song on stream listed in the album, including the new and existing songs. The album consists of 3 new songs and 7 existing songs. She mentioned those new songs were teased in her YT Shorts, then she played those one stream only with instrumentals and a glimpse of the lyrics. At the later parts of the stream, she got testimonies from members, guests, and producers who had already heard the full version of the new songs. Furthermore, there were call-ins and interview from HoloID members, notably Ollie, Risu, and Kobo. According to the stream, the album will be released digitally on 2025-04-12 00.00 JST.


Track Details​

1. Lasting Freedom (new)​

  • Length: 2:27
  • Lyrics: mimiko, mpi
  • Composition: Kai Shiono
  • Arrangement: Kai Shiono
Moona's commentary:
  • She thought this track felt like a dungeon music. The chat said it was epic at the first glance and she agreed on it.
  • She emphasized everyone to pay attention to the lyrics (later).

2. 100% (feat. Nerissa Ravencroft)​

  • Length: 4:06
  • Lyrics: Funk Uchino
  • Composition: Funk Uchino, Saito Ryo, Grace Tone
  • Arrangement: Saito Ryo
Moona's commentary:
  • When she heard the demo, she thought the song was not intended to be performed solo because the lyrics were rapid, so she needed another person to fill. Nerissa was the choice and it fits with her. She couldn't be more happier then she looked forward to collaborate with her again.

3. Distortion (new)​

  • Length: 2:17
  • Lyrics: monii
  • Composition: monii, Johnny R
  • Arrangement: Johnny R, monii, Ari
Moona's commentary:
  • She's excited for this one because it's a banger (TL note: even when she sang some bits during the play).
  • At first listen, she was already in love for the demo. She felt grateful to the creators especially monii and Johnny. She could have contacted with them sooner (TL note: maybe it's the whole Asteroid Music Team?)
  • She mentioned she loved ballad, but in this track she realized that rock, especially alt rock, was also her power.
  • During the lyrics section she sang, she tried to sing with a spicy style but at the same time she was embarassed to do so.
  • This song made her felt like a villain.

4. High Tide (original version)​

  • Length: 3:23
  • Lyrics: ZSunder
  • Composition: ZSunder
  • Arrangement: ZSunder
Moona's Commentary:
  • She stated there were pronounciation errors in this track e.g. "my reign" pronounced "my rinse" (TL: there was Orbiture EP/remastered version in her channel)
  • First showcase was in 3rd fes. People thought at that time she was covering a song until the song release
  • "This album is from Moonafic", no Multiverse because that tracks belongs to Holo-n

5. Who’s Toxic? It’s You!​

  • Length: 3:07
  • Lyrics: Arina Ephipania, Ari Renaldi
  • Composition: Ari Renaldi
  • Arrangement: Ari Renaldi
Moona's Commentary:
  • At the fes (TL: 5th fes), she was having fun that she was jumping around. She enjoyed it as long as it fit.

6. Perisai Jitu​

  • Length: 3:22
  • Lyrics: Donne Maula
  • Composition: Ari Renaldi
  • Arrangement: Ari Renaldi
Moona's Commentary:
  • She wanted the "hahaha" with the fans to make it chaotic, but she had no time, so she recorded those parts herself with different tones.

7. Charade​

  • Length: 3:15
  • Lyrics: mimiko, mpi
  • Composition: Jun Suyama
  • Arrangement: Jun Suyama
Moona's Commentary:
  • Although there are few explanations, she mentioned about subtlety with piano instrument

8. Nightmare​

  • Length: 3:36
  • Lyrics: Yuka Goto, Kris Roche
  • Composition: WON AGAIN, Yuka Goto
  • Arrangement: WON AGAIN
Moona's Commentary:
  • The banger songs for the album ended here.
  • She thought this one was good for the concert with the chants from the audience.

9. Taut Hati​

  • Length: 3:40
  • Lyrics: Donne Maula
  • Composition: Ari Renaldi
  • Arrangement: Ari Renaldi
Moona's Commentary:
  • This song was good and fit for reunion.
  • She wanted some members sang along especially ID members together.
  • She mentioned she couldn't whistle, at least not perfect (TL note: but she could in the stream?).

10. Ai no Chiisana Uta (original version)​

  • Length: 5:18
  • Lyrics: Moona Hoshinova, Hiraide Kensuke, Okumura Akira
  • Composition: Okumura Akira
  • Arrangement: Okumura Akira
Moona's Commentary:
  • (TL note: there is an Orbiture EP/remastered version)
  • She sang this while sitting

Testimonies​

There are testimonies by members, guests, and producers with their favorites of 3 new songs
  1. Tsunomaki Watame: those three are good ones. Lasting freedom was a chill song, and Charade being the ballad one. She liked Distortion the most with low and high notes.
  2. FLOW GLOW: Riona liked Lasting Freedom, Vivi liked the ballad one (Charade), Chihaya liked the rock one (Distortion), Niko and Su liked Distortion and both mentioned this song could be fit for a dance choreography challenge.
  3. Pia Meraleo (JKT48V): Lasting Freedom sounded like when you listened Moona's song for the first time. It's worth listening and it's a good leading song. Distortion was a showcase of her raw vocals.
  4. Arina Ephipania (mocca, one of Moona's song producers): The album had a range of emotions, especially at 3 new songs. Additionally, when she wrote the song for Moona, she tried to avoid people who had the trait. At that time, Arina also struggled writing the lyrics.
Other testimonies including Reine, Zeta, and Kaela (voiced) in shorter format.


Call-ins and Interviews​

This section was conducted with interview style by Ollie, Risu, and Kobo, although it's mostly from Ollie. Risu had the entire notes for each songs, and Kobo joined a bit later. At that time of streaming, Risu was also streaming so she had to cut short later.
  • Risu had some points for those new songs. Her personal picks: Lasting Freedom > Charade > Distortion. Lasting Freedom's first notes were a bit catchy. Her taste was into majestic stuffs so she liked the whole song even into the deeper details. She even emphasized the lyrics were impactful to make people pay attention to it. For Charade, the music was mostly piano but it's impactful with interesting notes. She felt this can be fit into an insert song but also a good fit for a sleeping song. Distortion presented a distortion so you needed good earphones. However, as she knew Moona's style, she stated this song was "very Moona" with talking and singing style in the song. As she heard, the actual vocal only presented at the refrain part whereas the rest were just talking. Moona responded it's true that she liked the talking part. At this point, the chat teased Risu as if she was a music critic.
  • Ollie wasn't moved on with Multiverse and Nightmare so she was not on the mood on those three songs (of course in positive note, and she mentioned that it's an achievement for Moona). When Ollie was down, she kept repeating Multiverse to raise her "girlboss aura".
  • Moona said those three songs were recorded in one week, but it's actually two days in a row for vocal recording. The recording was in Japan and she mentioned it's so different their usual in-house stuffs. The studio was too good for the quality alone, including how the studio handled unmixed vocals.
  • Kobo joined in at the middle. Risu mentioned that this album was produced over the top with good quality. Moona agreed and it did not need to revise again. As a sendoff, Risu promoted her album and she left for her ongoing stream.
  • Kobo learned much from Moona and Kobo was there to ask something. Moona advised her to make use of Yagoopay wisely, and ask M-chan if there was a time to produce music as they have short time schedule.

Here's the transcript I've interpreted after the previous segments. Some transcription are heavily paraphrased:
K: "Is Lasting Freedom a bit 'emo'?"
M: "Not really, but rather the Charade one. As you can see, it has Evanescence vibes."
O: "Why do you name it PANDORA?"
M: "There are range of emotions in the whole album, as if there are chaos and hope."
O: "What is the concept of the album art?"
M: "It uses the Perisai Jitu as reference. As you see, the outfit is basically the same as in the MV."
K: "How to produce songs consistently?" (Kobo also talked about finding genre)
M: "Find the references that clicks. But to be honest, I don't know about my genre consistently."
K: "Wait really? I thought everything is consistent?"
M: "To be honest I was exploring genres that time, but then I found my genre at the middle of the journey".
K: "Oh I like the Lasting Freedom. It's like a psycopath. Why is the piano melody a bit 'emo' 2019-ish?"
M: "It's because the reference is still the same as I mentioned it before e.g. Evanescence, Avril, Paramore, Muse, etc.. So it's like this album has been conceptualized."
O: "Is there a chance to make an MV for these three songs?"
M: "Yes, probably Lasting Freedom since it's a leading song. Actually, It's on the way, but not as intensive because the my budget is already spent on the album"

Then Moona talked about Kobo. She thought Kobo had more potential, even more that Kobo could compose and had better connection with other producers.
K: "No I can't."
O&M: "Wait what?"
M: "Alright, what's your favorite song by the way?"
K: "Mantra Hujan."
M: "Why don't you produce with the same style? Additionally, you can compose with your skillful instrumentals. You can do that easier as I myself don't use instruments. Or how about this, which cover songs do you like the most? With that, it can be a stepping stone for making a fitting genre for you."
K: "Thanks Moona for the insight."
M: "I hope you can follow (into the new album for Kobo)."

After this, Kobo left the call, but Ollie continued the conversation.
O: "So what's next?"
M: "I haven't made a song concept yet, and to be honest, I have to save as I've reached the Yagoopay limit (laughs). So with this, I have to find another way. Besides saving, I'm learning music composing. In terms of that, it's still basic, so I'm not really confident with that."
O: "Since when and how far you've learned?"
M: "I've been learning the piano part for a bit, but a bit tricky with drums."
O: "Again, why PANDORA?"
M: "Wait, are we going to talk this a bit deeper? Alright, this album is about the journey of emotions, between happy and depressed, handling a good or bad environment, and more. With that, we have to express what's inside you and that's normal for given situation."

The last song in recording was Distortion. The rest of the transcription is about personal Ollie to Moona interview. Be caution that the longer I can write, the more inaccurate I'm transcribing.
O: "Have you experienced the difference between your last song and you first one (Ai no Chiisana Uta)?"
M: "My first song was recorded in-house with old condenser USB mic and unconditioned room (no soundproof). Did you know that this song was collaborated for FREE?"
O: "Wait what?"
M: "Just lyrics and instrumental, not the full production (and MV). Actually, we (with Okumura, the producer) were talking about songs that themed around food. It was almost agreed for both sides, but we decided to be more serious. Another one was when Okumura heard my voice, Okumura complimented her voice and decided to collaborate. I felt grateful and that was my stepping stone to music industry."
O: "Yeah, it's different back then. However, from room recording into actual production, that's the milestone, isn't it?"
M: "I was thinking this one would take 5-10 years, but it's actually faster than I thought. At least I'm very happy and grateful for that. To think about it, this wouldn't be existed without Hololive staffs, fans, and supporters. Ai no Chiisana Uta and High Tide were a blast. If both wouldn't do like this, I think I can only do cover songs."
O: "Do you know Yagoo was so happy about you? He liked High Tide and he tweeted about it during fes. It was when I interviewed him with Kobo."
M: "Oh really? I didn't know about that."
O: "Besides finance, what's the most difficult about songs?"
M: "Finding a fitting producer. There was one time I switched producer. A declined demo is fine in music industry, but for personal stuffs, we need to find a fitting one. The second one is finding animator that fits our budget (laughs)."
O: "Sometimes our budget is at the limit."
M: "Oh do you know which one is also difficult? Making Indonesian songs. Just a fun fact, my Indonesian songs were produced by same person (TL Note: Ari Renaldi) and that's also hard. I liked Indonesian songs which can't be grasped by other Japanese producers which I can't describe it."
O: "Oh yeah! I talked to Farhan Sarasin (TL Note: Indonesian producer, known for "Gate Open: START!", "id:entity voices" and "Dramatic XViltration") that JP songs use specific kind of chord progression. But here, Perisai Jitu, that's so Indonesian that it can be heard in our usual local radios."
M: "I would want to collaborate with other producers, but the budget and licensing are a bit difficult and not so flexible unlike in Japan until now."
O: "What are your best memories about this album?"
M: "Taut Hati was the most enjoyable for me. I'm singing while having fun. I actually contributed to the lyrics while uncredited. It's just fun, especially with Indonesian language. We can be flexible and expressive, given that we use that language everyday."
O: "Speaking of Taut Hati, which one did you contribute?"
M: "The first lines in the 2nd verse"
O: "Wow, it's nice that you can do that."
M: "Actually, I have many lyric drafts that left unused until something comes. Usually when I was at the moment, I wrote the lyrics based on that situation."
O: "That's cool! Can't wait those lyrics to be used later!"
O: "Back to the first song. Did you think the food songs can be realized."
M: "I couldn't. I couldn't write the lyrics that are direct and to the point. Sometimes it's embarassing for me (laughs)."
O: "How about using other JP/EN lyrics?"
M: "They knew about how to do that because they are experienced at those stuffs. Imagine I perform those kind of thing in Holofes, wouldn't that be funny? (laughs)"

As a conclusion, Moona said "hire me. I have 10 songs! That's my CV right there! Anyway, buy the album."

7 minutes of Mumei's horse sounds.


Animation of Nene bragging about her elytra in front of the Polkacam and Miko.


Ollie tells Sora that she has been having bad dreams about doing work constantly.
 

Negzana

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Watching the ID anni collab and the ID 3D models are hot and all but can they please speak human?
This poll was a lot closer tho
Kiara won by a tiny 0.1% magin

For the longest time Kiara was behind both Liz and Shiori
Then Kiara overtook Liz but was still behind Shiori almost the entire day

I did not expect her to win at all.
As with the other poll, there were a lot of fans rallying and promising stuff to gather votes

(Twitter is being ass rn and wont show me the QRTs so just imagine them)
But it was basically lewd art and updates to Fanfics in favor of BloodRaven and ShioRaven


But I do want to point out this guy (an oomf of the usual Council sisters) having a crashout over this poll










(Archives not working rn)

my guy, its a random ass twitter poll its not worth a meltdown like that

Why are vtuber fans like this. Why can't they be well adjusted normal people?
 

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Watching the ID anni collab and the ID 3D models are hot and all but can they please speak human?

Why are vtuber fans like this. Why can't they be well adjusted normal people?
Glasshouse... stones...
 

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Takamori Kino is live RIGHT NOW

Also the two MC girls in the Game weirdly fit:

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Calli

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Kiara (Kiaras character is also older than Callis)

Art Tax:

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Takamori Kino is live RIGHT NOW

Also the two MC girls in the Game weirdly fit:

s8f9cr.png

Calli

adpafv.png

Kiara (Kiaras character is also older than Callis)

Art Tax:

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They fit the characters almost perfectly. Cici and GG argued for ten minutes about who was more cheerfully, and both wanted to play Zoe.
 

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They fit the characters almost perfectly. Cici and GG argued for ten minutes about who was more cheerfully, and both wanted to play Zoe.
its very funny to see kiara have the same reactions as her character

Also in this stream: Takamori whipping each other

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This is lesbian sex
(they are trying to recreate the spiderman kiss)
 
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This page is making it really hard to defend the continued existence of the hugbox the next time we have a forum-wide argument.
 

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This page is making it really hard to defend the continued existence of the hugbox the next time we have a forum-wide argument.
Hugbox? Did you not just read us bitching and moaning about Kiara's fan base
 

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