Hololive General

[Phantasm]

 

[NeneLOVE]

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FAGGIT

 

[agility_]

DHL is the worst humanly possible shipping service, and continued support of this company should be ceased, highest priority.

I want you try this out yourself: go to youtube search bar, type "DHL". See if you land an actual video and not some PR bullshit.

 

[frz]

I'm pretty sure you weren't even born when AoE2 released.

Possibly a toddler when Supreme Commander & Tiberian Wars appeared, just a few years removed from the genre's effective demise heralded by these games' successors.

So explain. Explain your knowledge of things too old and revered for a zoomer to fathom. Through what foul means did you acquire the sacred code that made the ancients work? What price did you pay to learn what your generation was never meant to learn? What rituals guided you past the grasping tentacles of EA and eSports?

What I missed this part earlier how fucking dare you insult AOE that and AOM were my fucking childhood

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Some heavy case of "Cant-read-itis" in here.
Awooger said AoE2 is godly and shouldnt be anywhere in comparison with the modern day consumer trash that is moba.

 

[White Stone]

Facts from Gura's member stream that you guys might be interested in.

1. Did rehearsal for Fes and consumed a lot of snacks in the "green room", even naming the exact brand of the Japanese snack, which kinda implies that she was in Japan after all. No idea why no one talked about meeting her.
2. Got sick after Fes and spread it to her family.
3. Talked to Raora about playing Repo, is going to setup a collab. She seemed really excited about it.
4. Apparently Kiara talked to her right after streaming Inzoi, recommending her to stream it. So she has been hanging out in Discord for the past weeks at least and didn't completely cut off contact.
5. She has been busy with stuff she cannot talk about, but did also tease a big song coming out really soon. It's a solo original song (in English) and she got to work with someone "really cool".
6. Has been chatting with Mumei and is planning to do something together.

There many more stuff she rambled about but those are mostly mundane stuff you guys probably wouldn't be interested in.

 

[Aquatic Novellite]

Some heavy case of "Cant-read-itis" in here.
Awooger said AoE2 is godly and shouldnt be anywhere in comparison with the modern day consumer trash that is moba.

Yes, which is why I asked where he got this knowledge from, as it is clearly not from his generation, and he had to escape the cruel clutches of EA and eSports to acquire it in the first place.

 

[Smelliest007]

I legitimately barely know what a MOBA is. I never played them. Is Age of Empires a MOBA?

I'll bite the bait; I want to kick your ass.

 

[TKN_Lurker]

6. Has been chatting with Mumei and is planning to do something together.

I'm glad they're collaborating again one last time before Mumei's graduation. The twins arc between the both of them was among the best content they ever did and I do miss their unhinged conversations together.

 

[Smelliest007]

DHL is the worst humanly possible shipping service, and continued support of this company should be ceased, highest priority.

I want you try this out yourself: go to youtube search bar, type "DHL". See if you land an actual video and not some PR bullshit.

Fuck no, it's not. OnTrac shipping is the worst humanly possible bar none.

Facts from Gura's member stream that you guys might be interested in.

1. Did rehearsal for Fes and consumed a lot of snacks in the "green room", even naming the exact brand of the Japanese snack, which kinda implies that she was in Japan after all. No idea why no one talked about meeting her.
2. Got sick after Fes and spread it to her family.
3. Talked to Raora about playing Repo, is going to setup a collab. She seemed really excited about it.
4. Apparently Kiara talked to her right after streaming Inzoi, recommending her to stream it. So she has been hanging out in Discord for the past weeks at least and didn't completely cut off contact.
5. She has been busy with stuff she cannot talk about, but did also tease a big song coming out really soon. It's a solo original song (in English) and she got to work with someone "really cool".
6. Has been chatting with Mumei and is planning to do something together.

There many more stuff she rambled about but those are mostly mundane stuff you guys probably wouldn't be interested in.

Tfw only Shiori didn't show up to Japan.

 

[Thomas Talus]

6. Has been chatting with Mumei and is planning to do something together.

It's probably going to be another Room Review; they considered trying to do a karaoke, but decided not to for Mumei's health.

 

[ValkyrieAce]

Which talent said they didn't want to do it?

Calli talked about it. IRyS was the first one hit with the most insane shipping, but pretty sure she's clueless to it all. I seem to recall Bae, but maybe it was someone else, also talking about merch and shipping and trying to find a balance of decent merch but also not completely fucking people over with shipping. Her last set also had high shipping, around $85.

One of the biggest changes seemed to be when DHL changed from weight to volume based shipping. There was that time where adding a plushie to an order would send the shipping over $100. But nothing still explains how you can take every item in a full merch set, add them to a single cart, and have it be significantly cheaper. The only thing the fell set adds is the bonus post card or whatever and a card for the CCG, and there's no way those add another $50 to the cost.

 

[frz]

Does this rrat have any evidence behind it? Also get ready for merch to be much more expensive with drumfps tariffs lol.

while it's a dumb rrat, yes there is evidence behind it

Calli talked about it in here, she was recommended to make posters by management because they were sold like hotcakes. Posters shipping price are insane because they are treated as "fragile item" by shipping companies. You can open the store right now. The shipping cost is literally 4 times the poster price lolw. And this low low price is because I am practically next to Japan. Shipping to US should be much more expensive. Even before the drumpf tax.

Note that however, if you look at the entire company, only Irys and Calli released poster as merches. It is only specifically Irys and Calli out of holo's 100 talents that got recommended to do posters. So "Holomembers are all up in arms, this is huge yab" is weird rrat shit when there's just 2 of them affected.

Kiara 4th anni merch set (october last year) was full of random european shit no other countries uses.

Kronii Birthday merch no posters

Advent had a new outfit merch run where none of them put up any posters

JP members tend to release tapestry & acrylic stands as the native JP prefer them over posters.

ID tends to be more practical stuff like plushies, cups, etc. Of note kobo literally sold nothing but 1 plushie for her 3rd annie merches

That being said, posters are literally just picture printed onto paper, Hololive should look to have it be produced in the US. I dont see why it have to be shipped from Japan/Chiba

Spoiler: off topic aoe shit

Yes, which is why I asked where he got this knowledge from, as it is clearly not from his generation, and he had to escape the cruel clutches of EA and eSports to acquire it in the first place.

Idk how it is at your place, but in here every 8x kids play AoE2. A few of 9x when entering the workforce ended up picking the game just to hang out with the older generations in the company. I never did learn it but I know a few who does.
No we do not know what EA is, AoE 2 was played cracked illegally lolw and still is illegally played to this day
Vietnam & China does international AoE 2 tournaments sometimes

 

[gregeoryL]

1. Did rehearsal for Fes and consumed a lot of snacks in the "green room", even naming the exact brand of the Japanese snack, which kinda implies that she was in Japan after all. No idea why no one talked about meeting her.

Not a single person mentioned her in any of the many clips I watched. Not even in passing. Not saying I don't believe her but like... shouldn't someone have said even just a simple 'I saw Gura and then x and I went and bla' kind of thing?

 

[Geese Howard]

while it's a dumb rrat, yes there is evidence behind it

Calli talked about it in here, she was recommended to make posters by management because they were sold like hotcakes. Posters shipping price are insane because they are treated as "fragile item" by shipping companies. You can open the store right now. The shipping cost is literally 4 times the poster price lolw. And this low low price is because I am practically next to Japan. Shipping to US should be much more expensive. Even before the drumpf tax.
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As for the reason it's cheaper to ship all the individual items from a merch set separately rather than as a set, it's because of volume-based shipping. Including the poster tube (which is how I assume they're shipping it) will require a box that can accommodate the tube's irregular dimensions along with the other merch, significantly increasing the volume being shipped. Professional CAD diagram below:

Also, I was informed by my Japanese forwarding service late yesterday that the de minimis tariff exemption for personal packages under $800 is still in place for countries other than China, so the new 24% tariff won't apply to anything with a lower declared value.

No, because if you order them all in the same cart, they still box them up together.

Then I have no idea. If the full set and the individual items actually do ship in the exact same box, that sounds like a problem with their ecommerce platform.

 

[ValkyrieAce]

As for the reason it's cheaper to ship all the individual items from a merch set separately rather than as a set, it's because of volume-based shipping. Including the poster tube (which is how I assume they're shipping it) will require a box that can accommodate the tube's irregular dimensions along with the other merch, significantly increasing the volume being shipped. Professional CAD diagram below:

Also, I was informed by my Japanese forwarding service late yesterday that the de minimis tariff exemption for personal packages under $800 is still in place for countries other than China, so the new 24% tariff won't apply to anything with a lower declared value.

No, because if you order them all in the same cart, they still box them up together.

 

[Smelliest007]

Kiara is so bad at Yakuza action games, oh its driving me up the wall, when its one of the hand holdiest and easy action games. Pirate Yakuza's normal combat in particular has alot of UH OH buttons to save yourself.

 

[ValkyrieAce]

while it's a dumb rrat, yes there is evidence behind it

It's not "Holomembers are all up in arms, this is huge yab" it's more the fans are pissed and members know shipping is already an issue. My rrat was more along the lines does Cover have some kind of deal for a cut or something with DHL, because otherwise why would they keep letting this shipping shit happen, especially when it's at the point of affecting merch sales.

 

[NeneLOVE]

while it's a dumb rrat, yes there is evidence behind it

Calli talked about it in here, she was recommended to make posters by management because they were sold like hotcakes. Posters shipping price are insane because they are treated as "fragile item" by shipping companies. You can open the store right now. The shipping cost is literally 4 times the poster price lolw. And this low low price is because I am practically next to Japan. Shipping to US should be much more expensive. Even before the drumpf tax.
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Note that however, if you look at the entire company, only Irys and Calli released poster as merches. It is only specifically Irys and Calli out of holo's 100 talents that got recommended to do posters. So "Holomembers are all up in arms, this is huge yab" is weird rrat shit when there's just 2 of them affected.

Kiara 4th anni merch set (october last year) was full of random european shit no other countries uses.

Kronii Birthday merch no posters

Advent had a new outfit merch run where none of them put up any posters

JP members tend to release tapestry & acrylic stands as the native JP prefer them over posters.

ID tends to be more practical stuff like plushies, cups, etc. Of note kobo literally sold nothing but 1 plushie for her 3rd annie merches

That being said, posters are literally just picture printed onto paper, Hololive should look to have it be produced in the US. I dont see why it have to be shipped from Japan/Chiba

Spoiler: off topic aoe shit

Idk how it is at your place, but in here every 8x kids play AoE2. A few of 9x when entering the workforce ended up picking the game just to hang out with the older generations in the company. I never did learn it but I know a few who does.
No we do not know what EA is, AoE 2 was played cracked illegally lolw and still is illegally played to this day
Vietnam & China does international AoE 2 tournaments sometimes

Thanks for the context, it's obviously a lot more nuanced than originally presented but still interesting. My simple explanation is what you said "it sold like hotcakes" that's enough reasoning for me.

 

[TKN_Lurker]

Hoping for some fun impromptu collabs during the stream. Mumei meeting Korone would be nice.

Edit: How tf did this become Overwatch 2...Mumei...

 

[Smelliest007]

Part 2 of the Lesbian Game that isn't LiS.