General Thread v4mirai: Brought to you by Brave

[NeneLOVE]

Dunno.

• Brave isn't buying up innovative breakout startups, it's buying up retirement homes and failed projects desperate for a way to recoup their losses. The competition it kills was never competition, it were just Brave like startups with less money and zero innovation
• meanwhile, vtubing's focus on corpos is an aberration as is, caused by the initially high tech barrier preventing indy approach that fleshstreaming had
• but with the cost of entry dropping, the corporate model makes less and less sense. Holo and Niji have their inertia keeping them up, Holo also heavily invests in events where the cost of entry remains high enough that indies can't easily compete. Even so, both have been bleeding established members in the past year, who then proceeded to indy it up.
• corpos lacking Holo's and Niji's inertia and events keep folding left and right, the window of opportunity has closed
• all that differentiates Brave from these failed corpos is that Brave can hold out longer

On this basis, I'd argue that whether a startup is a part of Brave Group or independent doesn't make much, if any difference. It's all the same regardless.

There arguably are still ways to succeed as a corporate endeavour. Isegye Idol went with a strict limit on size and putting out high quality events very quickly (and benefitted from a rather undersupplied market which it promptly cornered in '21 & '22, which is why this is still arguable).

But the way Brave is doing it?

Honestly, it reminds me a bit of Upd8, which also hired a zillion vtubers on a worldwwide basis (not many corpos to buy out back then), only to fall flat on its face.

Upd8 was more of a program which vtubers joined, not so much an agency. Activ8 actually didn't have that many vtubers under their umbrella for today's standards.

Edit: Reflecting on it, there exceptions to this rule, like phase. I think a lot of the mass agency die-offs last year simply had to do with 1. the fallout from Niji and 2. the market, specially the western side of it, beginning to contract. I do not think it's impossible for groups to succeed in the future instead of vtubing being just becoming a clone of twitch with 50 popular indies on top and then gazillions of irrelevant people slaving away to get 0.0005%, a lot of these agencies are just shitty cashgrabs or scams headed by morons trying to copy Holo. At least in Japan I can see agencies continuing to exist by focusing on performances and idolshit for a long ass time, the west is allergic to companies so I can see corpos dying out over here completely if Holo and Niji kick the bucket.

 

[The Proctor]

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[Brosnan Pierce Brosnan]

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Chick saw 69 in his username and thought "he will be my forever friend". And now her tiktoks are being hit

 

[dkn2038]

I fell in love with this unused model months ago and I'm making a figure, is almost finished

 

[CalciumAnimal]

I fell in love with this unused model months ago and I'm making a figure, is almost finished

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i didn't realize the babadook was a vtuber.

 

[Smelliest007]

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Literally who?

 

[Hotdogs Aplenty]

Here is how Cover and Sharp makes bank off Miko being her airhead self

 

[Hff201]

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Other side of the coin:

Spoiler

Archive

>Pre-debut (retired for now)

I still have no idea who these people are.

 

[Limkin]

Managers aren't just mentally handicapped, they are also physicaly freaks. Women are nearly 20 times less likely to be colorblind

 

[agility_]

I still have no idea who these people are.

Mentally unwell at the moment.

 

[Lurker McSpic]

Managers aren't just mentally handicapped, they are also physicaly freaks. Women are nearly 20 times less likely to be colorblind

or cece is a tranoid I hope to god my nigga fishman isn't that retarded, still funny that he somehow finds these weirdos and hires them out of the dumpster.

 

[tarkanoltr]

 

[dkn2038]

Managers aren't just mentally handicapped, they are also physicaly freaks. Women are nearly 20 times less likely to be colorblind

fishman should really ask for tax exemptions, he hires exclusively women, some of them are obviously lesbians, most are autistic and some are handicapped...

phase connect is like hag's make a wish foundation

 

[NeneLOVE]

>Pre-debut (retired for now)

I still have no idea who these people are.

The future of vtubing

 

[Cubanodun]

I still have no idea who these people are.

One is a 2 views top 20 CCV the other is a predebut that never bothered to hit live, aka trash that Proctor found in the street for our amusement

 

[God's Strongest Dragoon]

fishman should really ask for tax exemptions, he hires exclusively women, some of them are obviously lesbians, most are autistic and some are handicapped...

phase connect is like hag's make a wish foundation

Kevin Li's Special Needs Program for Women

 

[Todd's Strongest Howard]

The future of vtubing

Retired from unemployment, very impressive.

 

[dkn2038]

funny hag crab on pizza video

this is somewhat big on the page, that's why it's in a link

 

[Negzana]

Mentally unwell at the moment.

we need more vtubers on twitter who post normal non-menhera nonsense

 

[NeneLOVE]

TIL Niji had more than one furry vtuber (an actual self professed furry)
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