Vidya Games Thread

[CalciumAnimal]

I forgot if this was discussed before but I bring great news. Denuvo is facing the possibility of getting killed off.


Edit: Attached the wrong link but the previous one is still relevant anyways.


Creator was exposed as a creep and suddenly game companies now drop support of it for "performance issues". Totally, *cough*. *cough*.

Denuvo being unmarketable is a performance issue though.

 

[Bronze]

It's only first 3 episodes. I really hope it's not awful, but have no expectations. I should play the games again


E:

 

[Thomas Talus]

I didn't know IGN were physically capable of giving that low of a score.

 

[El Rrata]

I didn't know IGN were physically capable of giving that low of a score.

Their check from Amazon must have gotten lost in the mail.

 

[Kazuma]

I forgot if this was discussed before but I bring great news. Denuvo is facing the possibility of getting killed off.


Edit: Attached the wrong link but the previous one is still relevant anyways.


Creator was exposed as a creep and suddenly game companies now drop support of it for "performance issues". Totally, *cough*. *cough*.

Denuvo respond to their rep for tanking games - "I'm a gamer myself, and therefore I know what I'm talking about"

Denuvo Product Manager Andreas Ullmann speaks to RPS about public perception, misconception, and the recent Discord controversy.

www.rockpapershotgun.com

 

[UberSoldat]

Angry Joe's Space Marine 2 review

 

[Kalion]

I forgot if this was discussed before but I bring great news. Denuvo is facing the possibility of getting killed off.


Edit: Attached the wrong link but the previous one is still relevant anyways.


Creator was exposed as a creep and suddenly game companies now drop support of it for "performance issues". Totally, *cough*. *cough*.

I'm unsure how Denuvo helps with profits.

Denuvo Anti-Tamper: AWS Marketplace

Denuvo Anti-Tamper secures your game releases on PC against piracy, and helps you maximize your revenue.

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It costs $25,000 for a single month contract + $0.50 per copy sold. I'm sure longer contracts have a better price, but that seems like a huge waste in the long term. Is having Denuvo really going to "force" 360ish consumers to buy a $70 game instead of pirating it?

 

[God's Strongest Dragoon]

I'm unsure how Denuvo helps with profits.

Denuvo Anti-Tamper: AWS Marketplace

Denuvo Anti-Tamper secures your game releases on PC against piracy, and helps you maximize your revenue.

aws.amazon.com

It costs $25,000 for a single month contract + $0.50 per copy sold. I'm sure longer contracts have a better price, but that seems like a huge waste in the long term. Is having Denuvo really going to "force" 360ish consumers to buy a $70 game instead of pirating it?

People that were never going to pay you and were determined to pirate won't suddenly pay now because of Denuvo, they'll just wait for the crack. Some of your legal customers will skip over your game because it has Denuvo. Meanwhile Denuvo is going to tank your game's performance and those performance issues could become a main talking point about your game. So now you're now losing money to the contract, people skipping the game because of Denuvo, and people skipping because of performance issues

So these companies are hoping the money they lost from all this is offset by the people that were going to buy it but will now pirate it on release because it doesn't have Denuvo. That sounds hopeful until you realize that Steam's entire existence and their infinite money printer shows that the piracy that matters (potential legal customers pirating the game) is a matter of convenience and you're actively inconveniencing them with Denuvo, which you're paying for. It's basically a scam. It's why some companies only pay for it for 1 month to try to ensure people will buy it out of FOMO instead of pirating. Then they drop Denuvo because it isn't worth it and they can pretend like they improved the performance issues, hopefully gaining good rep with the audience.

 

[El Rrata]

This is coming out sometime. This game is supposed to be canon, according to Carpenter, but not sure whether it was any good back when it got released.

 

[Punished Anime Discusser]

Creator was exposed as a creep and suddenly game companies now drop support of it for "performance issues". Totally, *cough*. *cough*.

But here I thought Denuvo had no performance issues, because the redditors kept saying it didn't, and that I shouldn't trust my lying eyes!

Also yeah, you can't quantify "lost piracy sales" because most of the people who pirate wouldn't buy your shit anyways, especially not for full price, and anyone who says otherwise, or gives some "uhm akshually I'm fighting the big corporation" spiel is purely virtue signalling.

 

[CalciumAnimal]

But here I thought Denuvo had no performance issues, because the redditors kept saying it didn't, and that I shouldn't trust my lying eyes!

Also yeah, you can't quantify "lost piracy sales" because most of the people who pirate wouldn't buy your shit anyways, especially not for full price, and anyone who says otherwise, or gives some "uhm akshually I'm fighting the big corporation" spiel is purely virtue signalling.

they said that it was justified because most of them are anti piracy not that the games performance wasn't suffering.

 

[Punished Anime Discusser]

they said that it was justified because most of them are anti piracy not that the games performance wasn't suffering.

Yeah, most of them are screaming about it because they hate pirates, but every single time a denuvo thread popped up on r/games or wherever, you'd have droves of bugmen screaming that you can't prove Denuvo degrades performance and that any video that says otherwise is faked, then saying that you shouldn't even care that Denuvo takes off some frames because it's not too bad, then saying that Denuvo having a chance to utterly brick games like Sonic Mania (I think) and DMC5 is rare so you shouldn't care, etc., etc..

 

[God's Strongest Dragoon]

Yeah, most of them are screaming about it because they hate pirates, but every single time a denuvo thread popped up on r/games or wherever, you'd have droves of bugmen screaming that you can't prove Denuvo degrades performance and that any video that says otherwise is faked, then saying that you shouldn't even care that Denuvo takes off some frames because it's not too bad, then saying that Denuvo having a chance to utterly brick games like Sonic Mania (I think) and DMC5 is rare so you shouldn't care, etc., etc..

A lot of them are literal consolefags. They have conniptions anytime PC gets a Sony exclusive and argue that companies should heavily restrict PC games because they think the majority of PC gamers don't actually buy games but pirate everything. So yeah, they're subhuman trash but that was already expected of predditors.

 

[John Vtuber👁️]

Going through the Black Ops 6 campaign, and it's built on the bones of the Black Ops Cold War campaign - first-person hub where you talk to NPCs with a dedicated conversation system, allocate funds to expand your base, plan missions. Of course I'm drawn to it, I'm a sucker for 'murican propaganda espionage stories.

That being said, since this is now the second game built on these foundations, there is now a framework for Activision to create an absolute killer first-person RPG to make Bethesda shake in their boots. Will they actually do it? Absolutely not, it's going to be relegated to Black Ops games, anything not named Call of Duty gets taken out back, let alone new IP.

 

[Brosnan Pierce Brosnan]

Going through the Black Ops 6 campaign, and it's built on the bones of the Black Ops Cold War campaign - first-person hub where you talk to NPCs with a dedicated conversation system, allocate funds to expand your base, plan missions. Of course I'm drawn to it, I'm a sucker for 'murican propaganda espionage stories.

That being said, since this is now the second game built on these foundations, there is now a framework for Activision to create an absolute killer first-person RPG to make Bethesda shake in their boots. Will they actually do it? Absolutely not, it's going to be relegated to Black Ops games, anything not named Call of Duty gets taken out back, let alone new IP.

I thought Cold War was the best campaign since BO2. Was it great? Not really, but it was cool so I'll keep an eye out on this one. Renegade Robert Redford is cool

 

[MrProcessor]

This is coming out sometime. This game is supposed to be canon, according to Carpenter, but not sure whether it was any good back when it got released.

 

[UberSoldat]

Nice to see a fellow Gman enjoyer. However, this is a pretty old review, and won't take into account improvements and changes in the remaster.

 

[MrProcessor]

Nice to see a fellow Gman enjoyer. However, this is a pretty old review, and won't take into account improvements and changes in the remaster.

Right, but I mostly posted it because the original poster wasn't sure if it was good back when it was originally released. I have high expectation for the remaster too.

 

[RestlessRain]

I've seen the start of Skynet - my computer refuses to run Civilization V and I can't figure out how to fix it.

To fill the Civilization V-shaped hole in my heart, I'm after similar game suggestions:

• 4X strategy game with multiple paths to victory besides killing the enemy
• Turn-based is a must.
• I don't want to play a fantasy or sci-fi setting. I'd love a game with the historical scope of Civ, but will take a more narrowly-focused setting if required
• Would prefer lots of factions to choose from, although this isn't required
• Some nice graphics wouldn't go astray

I'm not interested in recommendations for other Civ games, obviously. So, what games are best to scratch that Civilization itch?

 

[Punished Anime Discusser]

I've seen the start of Skynet - my computer refuses to run Civilization V and I can't figure out how to fix it.

To fill the Civilization V-shaped hole in my heart, I'm after similar game suggestions:

• 4X strategy game with multiple paths to victory besides killing the enemy
• Turn-based is a must.
• I don't want to play a fantasy or sci-fi setting. I'd love a game with the historical scope of Civ, but will take a more narrowly-focused setting if required
• Would prefer lots of factions to choose from, although this isn't required
• Some nice graphics wouldn't go astray

I'm not interested in recommendations for other Civ games, obviously. So, what games are best to scratch that Civilization itch?

Endless Legend is really good but scifi, Humankind is literally bootleg Civ and I've never played it but I know multiple people who really like it.