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So many of these look like the next dead on arrival AAA chasing old trends, and I'm just here to catch the next update on Monhun Wilds. The update here is supposed to be more substantial than the trailer we just got a bit ago.
Also, nothing but trailers and cutscenes. No gameplay. No confidence in themselves even for games about to launch.
Edit: Oh nice, Dark and Darker has made it back onto Steam and other platforms, I had thought the Korean corpo dystopia had fucked that game forever.
Edit 2: Ok not much info on Wilds after all, but the skeletons used for those worm-like monsters the trailer was about look like they could 100% be re-used for Lagiacrus.
Also, nothing but trailers and cutscenes. No gameplay. No confidence in themselves even for games about to launch.
Edit: Oh nice, Dark and Darker has made it back onto Steam and other platforms, I had thought the Korean corpo dystopia had fucked that game forever.
Edit 2: Ok not much info on Wilds after all, but the skeletons used for those worm-like monsters the trailer was about look like they could 100% be re-used for Lagiacrus.
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This is what the whole show was organized for. Trailers(and ad) cost $250000 for 1 minute, $350000 for 1.5 minutes, $450000 for 2 minutes and $550000 for 2.5 minutes.
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Oh, nice. Looks like they're actually planning to use that gacha money for real games. Of course, it'll probably take a while, but given that I've only recently gotten into the Atelier series, there's a ton of games for me to play.
AAA gaming has gone to shit. Everything has been focus-tested to remove anything remotely controversial to create products that are safe, boring and bland, everything has to be DEI-approved and filled with evil white men, ugly women, gay kissing and pride flags. No wonder everyone has gone to indie gaming.
The funny thing is that a lot of indie dev studios are making the same mistakes. It's like nearly every fucking small indie dev studio decides "ok, so do we do metroidvania, roguelite or both?". They've completely flooded that genre to the point that unless the name is actually Metroid, I don't think I'm going to touch it.
So it's often just a random autist or a random group of autists that got together and made their own game that ends up rocking, just like the good old days in the 90s. Multiple games on that top 10 list are all from solo autists (Manor Lords, Buckshot Roulette, and Balatro) or just two guys in the case of Supermarket Simulator. Nature is healing.
Currently watching the Summer Games Fest that just started
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Im geniuenly surprised Dragon's Dogma 2 weasled its way into this list, its not a masterpiece or even that much of an improvement over the first game, still fun though, i hope the numbers are good enough for DLC or a more meatier 3rd game without taking 10 years to make
Yeah, that was a big surprise for me. However we're only counting up to May and there just hasn't been a lot of heavy hitters this year. It snuck its way to the #7 position just because of people hyping it up massively and it being FOMO for like 1-2 weeks. It will very likely fall off that top 10 list by the time Steam does their official 2024 top 10 sales list. I kinda figured that Ghost of Tsushima might weasel its way in but I'm convinced that whole PSN shitshow with Helldivers did damage to Ghost's sales on Steam.
Oh yes i doubt it will come to it being a GOTY contender or even a footnote by the end of the year, but a part of me hopes its enough for the Double A/Indie clones of it to start popping off, or even enough attention for capcom so they throw more money at the IP
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the obvious solution would be to innovate on whatever aspects of metroidvania or roguelite those developers enjoy, until it's basically an entirely different system altogether, and something people would be interested in playing. which, unfortunately for the short-sighted, goes against whatever trends are currently being sought after.
there's a lesson to be learned here, but it might take the actual game industry crash before indie devs stop trying to chase trends just as hard as the AAAA-devs.
...it's also why, in my quest to make a successor to Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Sky, it would take an extensive amount of effort to innovate on the "dungeon" aspect so it's not procedurally generated, while offering an equal or greater experience as the base inspiration. But if that's what it takes to stand out, then that's what it takes.
At least I got a ton of good boomer shooters out of it, and we're still getting bangers like Selaco (even though the dev is pozzed) and Turbo Overkill, which is in my top 3 with Dusk and Ion Fury
Putting these 2 together. SBI is a symptom of the core problem, which is why the insiders won't see it. They simply cannot see the problem with some outside writing contractors. But if your company is hiring and listening to incompetents that practice a deeply evil religion, there's a whole host of terrible decision making that gets you to that point. No one on the staff gets a pass for being so pathetic as to not being willing to point out & deal with actual issues. Same issue with Naughty Dog and all the others.
The mass scale entrance of Artists & Visual Effects staff into gaming is what has done all of the damage. It's morphed "game design" from what is a primarly Logic/Structure field into an Artistic/Expression field. There's deep technical skills needed for both, but the mindset and skill sets needed a very different. It also changes the production pipelines when the fundamental aspects of Playing Games has not changed. Games are a mechanical input first medium. Mario Bros & the NES blew up because the controls were so tight. That's what made it work before anything else. We see this at all times and levels of gaming. If the input interface isn't smooth, the market disappears. This is the big issue with VR, frankly.
This is why 1-5 autists sitting in a room grinding out a set of mechanics until they're tight and enjoyable is what causes these small games to pop off. There's more complex layers to it all, as it's a Audio-Visual-Physical medium to interact with and the nexus of that interaction can be leaned on any of the axises, but one of those has to be extremely refined to find a market. i.e. wherever in the matrix of interactions you can find the Dopamine trigger, you've found a game.
DD2 is the most mid game I've played in years but in a passive, inoffensive sort of way. You could dump 100 hours into the game and by the end you won't have found it a waste of time, and then promptly forget about it when the next interesting thing comes around (which I did). Combined with the hype train behind it as the long awaited successor to a cult classic game it captured the same sort of audience who played vanilla Skyrim on console back in the day who unironically thought it was great.
I wouldn't ever recommend it over playing DD1: Dark Arisen, but the majority of people who played 2 don't have the context to understand how much better it should have been. It sold very well for Capcom so it'll probably show up on a bunch of normie lists like this.
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