Decided to sit through this shit because I hate myself but im autistic like that.
BTW forum's favorite MALE vtuber is streaming
- Seems Ana has some rules as to what you can and cant speak to on stream. From now on any discussion of what is happening with Vtubers is banned from chat
- Going to take a break from social media because they know how the wind is blowing and they want to be off social media because they are basically getting observed at all times and in all platforms and what's happening now will probably blow up into something bigger and Ana doesnt want to be in the center of that.
- Discord server will stay private for the indefinite future so no more invites (they have an Id verification currently).
- When things quiet down, the Discord will open.
- They wont stop Vtubing or doing ASMR
Maybe should have done this from the start instead of trying to stir shit.
- Social media posts will come through someone else who is managing their social media
- People reaching out to ask for comments on the Vtubing articles (including the V-Allure even if that one will stay up). Ana says there wont be any comments.
- I know people have thoughts on this and I encourage you to express your opinion and speak truth to your beliefs. I
encourage (hard emphasis) you to speak out. I encourage you to speak out but do so in measured ways. Please understand that there are a bunch of eyeballs on everything right now. So please, please, please be considerate and respectful and measured in what you say.
I wonder whose fault this is.
- The harassment im experiencing is a larger internet issue about being transgender on the internet. Its about bing marginalized on the internet.
No Ana. People dont give a shit about you being transgender. People just know that since you constantly talk about being transgender, the easiest way to attack you is by using that against you.
- Be careful in what you say.
- Nobody speaks on my behalf when this stuff is happening.
Funny you say that. Since this all comes from Ana taking what Kirsche's followers say as if it came directly from Kirsche herself.
- If someone claims to speak on my behalf they are wrong.
- Wont be posting on Social media so if anyone is claiming to be me, its not me.
- I wont be around on public social media so please keep an eye out for lies and slander that comes my way.
- They have gone through similar before but its hasn't been as bad as it has been for the last week.
No shit. Gamer gate was about games but people cant be parasocial about games. Vtubers on the other hand it all feels a bit more personal than that so the people will be way more aggressive and offensive when you go after their favorite content creator in some life ruination attempt.
- It feels like it has escalated to real violence through the words on the screen.
- If you see someone lying speak out because a lie can make it way around the world three times when there is no one to address it so it is important to address it.
You mean like how you lied about Kirsche being a neo-nazi right winger? Funny how its only a problem when it happens to you but not when you do it to others.
- You have to speak up you cant just let it happen. It has been happening the way we have dealt with things for the past decade. The only way it goes away is if people stick together and say that its not ok to harass a transwoman in this way. Or its not ok to harass a journalist in this way. Or its not ok to talk about people this way. Its not ok to lie and slander people.
Oh no the poor transwoman journalist is getting attacked for no reason at all. Clearly they didnt get caught pouring gasoline and lighting shit on fire and are only mad they got burned
- You have to be following for like a week to chat.
- This is about someone being targeted by a harassment campaign and the only way to stop it is to stand up and say "not allowed in our space. not allowed in our community and warn other people that its going on"
The irony of saying this and not realizing that Ana led a targeted harassment campaign against Kirsche.
- If you are upset that im not going to be on social media, that i have been pushed out you are going to have to do something if you want me back. I cant go back if this is the climate now. If everywhere I post its going to be people yelling at me im not going to be able to be on the internet.
This seems like them trying to rally up people to do the dirty work for him.
- But if people come together and speak out by saying that this is not ok and that Ana is the victim here then he can come back and hang out. Otherwise it will only be in highly moderated spaces.
This wont happen. Its clear that the mob against Ana is way bigger and hold way more power/support than the people that are with Ana. Hell even people like Nbint and Keni even dropped Ana once they saw that shit was going south. Which is ironic in Bint's case as they are basically one of the main instigators in all of this and Ana used their posts as a base for the hit pieces.
- Spends more time telling people to stand up and calls out other people in media to do the same.
- This is about people harassing you because they know they can harass you.
No Ana. This is people going after you because started a dumpster fire in the middle of an empty parking lot and now all eyes are on you.
- The problem is going to get worse unless games media steps up and sound the alarm.
No Ana. The problem will get way worse IF games media steps up and sounds the alarm. Stay in your own shitty lane. Almost no one knew who you were until 3 weeks ago.
- Chat mentions that current political climate emboldens hateful people.
- #Gamergate mentioned
- Feels that people are more aggressive now.
People are not more aggressive now. People are just extremely autistic and are aware of the tactics used back in GG. They will now document and archive everything to prevent you from stealth editing documents. It doesnt help that Ana clearly has a huge and very public example of very suspicious behavior which can be examined. Especially to show any sort of hypocritical behavior.
This is a copy of all of the chat messages from the 27 minute segment:
