The Offkai 2024 Blacklisting Debacle (and other possible scandals)

[Scoots]

If i got everything right they are just banning Kir because she doesnt a corpo or a 3rd party to back her up right?
Because they problaby tried the same shit with others but didnt work because they had someone behind them
If thats the case then this is just a pretty easy example of why a established indie vtuber would need any kind of help just from extra protection agains shit like this

Yeah they tried with Pippa last year but Sakana said "everyone or no one"

As if one needed any more proof that she has the worst bunch backing her team, King Grifter Legal Mindset has thrown his hat in the ring, making the bold assumption that not having a brand risk controversy magnet on a panel is a bad business decision. I wonder what he said about Nijisanji not being able to go...

Not being satisfied with giving bad business advice, he then goes on to make the sloppiest attempt at summoning a slippery slope fallacy I've ever seen.

The hate boner people have for this guy is exhausting

 

[Nenélove]

Please move all the offkai shit from general thread.

And I'm just dropping this here. Going by this very logic of yours. Kirsche is the original invader by bringing politics into the space. You are calling people who you like "early adopters" and people who you don't like "invaders" and us who tolerated the existence of kirsche "bystanders"

It doesn't matter which side of the politics they are being on, left or right, both of them are invaders to the majority of vtubing community.

Offkai did a great job at removing the first one and I hope they starts remove the other too. Every other cons should start removing kirsche and every other politic spergs vtuber out there and I hope fans unsubscribe from them until they drop the politics shit.

It wont be happening but that's what I hope.
Just know that everything you said about "invaders" applies to kirsche and that's what this community is telling you. Keep the politic shit off the people who dont want to. But if you want us to be involved the first one we target and drive off the community is going to be mrs. right.

Honestly everyone who came into the hobby after myth are essentially invaders, as with everything the Japanese make which gets imported overseas, it got plundered for profit, bastardized by people who never understood its appeal and then politicized and burned to the ground.

 

[Tamavitch]

Please move all the offkai shit from general thread.

And I'm just dropping this here. Going by this very logic of yours. Kirsche is the original invader by bringing politics into the space. You are calling people who you like "early adopters" and people who you don't like "invaders" and us who tolerated the existence of kirsche "bystanders"

It doesn't matter which side of the politics they are being on, left or right, both of them are invaders to the majority of vtubing community.

Offkai did a great job at removing the first one and I hope they starts remove the other too. Every other cons should start removing kirsche and every other politic spergs vtuber out there and I hope fans unsubscribe from them until they drop the politics shit.

It wont be happening but that's what I hope.
Just know that everything you said about "invaders" applies to kirsche and that's what this community is telling you. Keep the politic shit off the people who dont want to. But if you want us to be involved the first one we target and drive off the community is going to be mrs. right.

All you wrote was "aaahhhh mbmllbmmmll I LOVE COMMIE DICK AND CAN"T CHOKE ON IT ENOUGH!" you subhuman. Your posts have reeked of leftarded tourist plant for quite a while. Of course you'll suck cock for commies and parrot the pablum of "it's only ploitical when you OPPOSE leftardism!" You absolute scum.

 

[Tamavitch]

JustLurking and Anime Fan your concessions are accepted.

 

[MerelyTourist]

If i got everything right they are just banning Kir because she doesnt a corpo or a 3rd party to back her up right?
Because they problaby tried the same shit with others but didnt work because they had someone behind them
If thats the case then this is just a pretty easy example of why a established indie vtuber would need any kind of help just from extra protection agains shit like this

Yep, exactly that. They kicking her out becasue they think they can afford to. And to add self-insult to self-injury, dude was very vocal about kicking her out for arbitrary and frivolous reasons. This could be less damaging at generalistic Weebcon, but Offkai is all about vtubers. No matter what really happened bts, they went with a public stance of "we're kicking out one of the only people who bring value to the con and make whole thing possible over some random anons from the streets"

 

[desudesu]

Yep, exactly that. They kicking her out becasue they think they can afford to. And to add self-insult to self-injury, dude was very vocal about kicking her out for arbitrary and frivolous reasons. This could be less damaging at generalistic Weebcon, but Offkai is all about vtubers. No matter what really happened bts, they went with a public stance of "we're kicking out one of the only people who bring value to the con and make whole thing possible over some random anons from the streets"

The con sold out before they even announced she was going so please do explain how she was the person bringing value to it

 

[Continuous Retardation]

If she was blacklisted because of her politics, but they have the other side of the spectrum represented, then offkai can choke on a dick and die. If they want to try and avoid CW stuff, then as long as they apply it equally, I definitely wouldn't care at all. In fact I would respect them call them based for keeping political shitflinging out of vtubing in general. It doesn't seem like they're doing the 2nd option based on some of the people still being there though, and instead it seems like they're taking a side. Unfortunate, but should be expected from western organizations. Hopefully bad publicity will catch up to them and kill them like so many other Orgs that get too self-important.

 

[MerelyTourist]

The con sold out before they even announced she was going so please do explain how she was the person bringing value to it

Doesn't matter. She's chuuba, all chuubas bring value to a con that's all about chuubas. Come next year, barely anyone will remeber that she was dumped before announcement, only that she was dumped arbitrarily.

 

[VSoyBoy]

Come next year, barely anyone will remeber

Agreed

 

[Nenélove]

Politics really does make everything gayer and brings out the worst in people.

 

[Ed O'neill]

Inb4 vtubing isn't for vtubing fans no mo

Aka it's ok for the convention to make a political statement and not others. Fair enough but it's also OK for me to tell them to shove that statement up their ass

 

[Aquatic Novellite]

And we are blaming Kircshe for bringing politics into vtubing when Mana exists? Please, get real

Kirsche actually streams.

 

[Security]

Please move all the offkai shit from general thread.

And I'm just dropping this here. Going by this very logic of yours. Kirsche is the original invader by bringing politics into the space. You are calling people who you like "early adopters" and people who you don't like "invaders" and us who tolerated the existence of kirsche "bystanders"

It doesn't matter which side of the politics they are being on, left or right, both of them are invaders to the majority of vtubing community.

Offkai did a great job at removing the first one and I hope they starts remove the other too. Every other cons should start removing kirsche and every other politic spergs vtuber out there and I hope fans unsubscribe from them until they drop the politics shit.

It wont be happening but that's what I hope.
Just know that everything you said about "invaders" applies to kirsche and that's what this community is telling you. Keep the politic shit off the people who dont want to. But if you want us to be involved the first one we target and drive off the community is going to be mrs. right.

Disagree. Everything I've seen from Kirsche falls in the "fuck off" category, which is foolishly mistaken by some to be a political stance.

If Political Group A wants you to conform to their belief system, and Political Group B wants you to conform to their belief system, someone coming out and saying "fuck off" is not Political Group C.

The absence (or promotion of an absence) of politics is itself not a political position. That it is viewed as such is a great misconception, and also a useful tool by those trying to push their political positions.

 

[famous artist pipkun]

wah wah wah politics.

 

[The Proctor]

Kuri talking about this right now. Rima also has a section on it.



Edit: Rev Says Desu is up now.

 

[The Proctor]

Kirsche just stated on her current stream that there are people now on Twitter demanding that Youmacon blacklist her as well. Will see about getting some examples after her stream.

 

[Helmet-kun]

Politics really does make everything gayer and brings out the worst in people.

On the one hand, you're completely correct and it's worrying how much politisperging is infesting v-tubing (hell, apparently even this forum has plenty of it today). On the other hand it cost me 110$ US to buy a gas can that doesn't leak because someone in California decided all gasoline vehicles should die.


I don't know man. I watch v-tubers to get away from worrying about this shit.

 

[MerelyTourist]

On the one hand, you're completely correct and it's worrying how much politisperging is infesting v-tubing (hell, apparently even this forum has plenty of it today). On the other hand it cost me 110$ US to buy a gas can that doesn't leak because someone in California decided all gasoline vehicles should die.


I don't know man. I watch v-tubers to get away from worrying about this shit.

Not how it works. Random letters people infiltrating vtubing, so now at least some vtubers and orbiters have to fight them. You must support your side or lose the war to troon dictators

 

[Nenélove]

Not how it works. Random letters people infiltrating vtubing, so now at least some vtubers and orbiters have to fight them. You must support your side or lose the war to troon dictators

Meh? I'll just keep watching the nips, they have consistently not given a shit about the west's brainrot. People seem to forget that not the entire world is american partisan politics or western european cuckoldry.

 

[MerelyTourist]

Meh? I'll just keep watching the nips, they have consistently not given a shit about the west's brainrot.

Lucky you (for now)