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Awoogers

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Whut? did i read something different im at the latest volume of both and Overlord is much tamer in regards of edge compared to Arif
ah my bad i was thinking of the after stories
 

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The kind of funny bit, from firearms history, is that I'm pretty sure most of the bolt or lever actions we're used to know actually pre-exist at basic designs well before the metallurgy & manufacturing ability was available for cartridges. They knew what would make the most sense, it's just you couldn't yet produce them. That said, random farmers inventing precision measuring devices is definitely when to nope out.
Similar to the steam engine. James Watt knew what to do for a decade or two but couldn't get it to work until John Wilkinson's boring machine (to make cannons) allowed the precision necessary to seal the damn cylinders.

To elaborate beyond my glib comment earlier, the protagonist's an agriculture student, and revolutionises Japanese agriculture in the sengoku era. Convenietly brought seeds with her. Has trouble navigating past social customs. Is cute. So far, so good.

She also brought a book on weapons with her (how convenient...), and is pushed towards a military role. And it's here that the author clearly loses it.

If they'd approached local metalworkers and used foreknowledge to produce decent springs that could in turn be used to produce flintlocks instead of matchlocks, okay, I could've lived with that. Hell. Flintlocks were technically already a thing in Europe, just stupid expensive and relatively complex because springs are hard. Modernity rests on metal springs, but I digress.

But nope, it's bolt action rifles out of fucking nowhere.

You know, I wouldn't mind an isekai loosely modelled on Gonzalo Guerrero. Shipwrecked, enslaved by locals, impresses them and ends up becoming a thoroughly tattoo'd war chief and marrying the king's daughter. Hella impressive, one might even call it wish fulfillment, but it did happen.

But lacking the necessary economic basis or indeed, professional experience, Guerrero didn't end up throwing the Maya into the iron age and start building arquebus on his lonesome.
 

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WRONG
I mean overlord :SelenHAHAhere:
All I know about Overlord is what I learned from watching Isekai Quartet. The fact that the first episode establishes that Aqua could solo the entire Overlord cast (and only doesn't because Kazuma scolds her for trying to start a fight on her first day of school) amuses me to no end.
Though I could just tackle an easy one which fucking sucks and it's literally just a worse version of slime because im lazy
Do you have the slightest idea how little that narrows it down?
You know, I wouldn't mind an isekai loosely modelled on Gonzalo Guerrero. Shipwrecked, enslaved by locals, impresses them and ends up becoming a thoroughly tattoo'd war chief and marrying the king's daughter. Hella impressive, one might even call it wish fulfillment, but it did happen.
I'd probably watch something like that. I still want an anime based on that Christian ronin in the Philippines that you mentioned before.
 

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arifureta is edgy but not as edgy as overlord
Arifureta is also so bad that it's almost unreadable. You could tell me it was written by Nolan and I'd probably believe it, it's in my bottom 3 JP series that I've ever encountered. Overlord has nothing on the sheer stupidity displayed in the writing of Arifureta.
 

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Arifureta is also so bad that it's almost unreadable. You could tell me it was written by Nolan and I'd probably believe it, it's in my bottom 3 JP series that I've ever encountered. Overlord has nothing on the sheer stupidity displayed in the writing of Arifureta.
Now I wanna read it... oh I actually did start reading it now that I looked up the synopsis, but it was so terrible that I dropped it almost instantly... huh
 

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All I know about Overlord is what I learned from watching Isekai Quartet. The fact that the first episode establishes that Aqua could solo the entire Overlord cast (and only doesn't because Kazuma scolds her for trying to start a fight on her first day of school) amuses me to no end.

Do you have the slightest idea how little that narrows it down?

I'd probably watch something like that. I still want an anime based on that Christian ronin in the Philippines that you mentioned before.
Arifureta is also so bad that it's almost unreadable. You could tell me it was written by Nolan and I'd probably believe it, it's in my bottom 3 JP series that I've ever encountered. Overlord has nothing on the sheer stupidity displayed in the writing of Arifureta.
Having read it, Overlord is pretty decent until it very suddenly isn't, at which point the writing craters hard. The author, Maruyama, is kind of a sperg who got a bee up his ass about unofficial foreign translations (his own fault, the pace of the official releases was glacial and the quality dubious) and started to hate the breakout hit series that made his name relevant, rushing to end the story by volume 17 so he can work on some new passion project instead (about wrestling or something, I dunno the guy's a dipshit and I don't see why anyone should trust any work he puts out in the future if this is how he's going to treat a franchise and his fans).
The main problem is that Overlord essentially doesn't ever progress. What you see at the start of the series is still what you'll have a dozen volumes in. It sets up a lot, does a pretty good job of it honestly between character progression and worldbuilding, and even seems to commit to it for a while before Maruyama's decision to end the series hits and it all returns to the mean. The deeper worldbuilding and lore threads hinting at a broader world and conspiracy get dropped in favour of the already established regions and resolving their conflict. Ainz goes from an un-educated but surprisingly competent manager to buying into his own "Sasuga Ainz" hype where it's just a perpetual display of idiocy that is presented as genius even though anyone with a lick of sense can tell his actions and policies have all the political and social sense of a sack of drowned kittens, with far more competent and satisfying conclusions to arcs staring the audience in the face (hello Renner) going ignored in the face of pure brute power fantasy solutions.
Characters stop progressing and even regress, becoming a collection of flanderised traits. This was fine early because it has the easy excuse of them being literal NPCs but loses its luster when it shows them developing their own traits due to now having free will, and it makes the writing's formulaic nature more and more intolerable (go to new region > POV switch to residents > they go through an arc so you can care about them > Nazarick plays its hand and they all die horrible deaths with 1-2 becoming new servants > Ainz gloats over how much you just read was rendered totally meaningless) because Overlord's ensemble cast of NPCs is its best part and late Overlord refuses to take them where the reader wants beyond gag scenes and interactions. Ainz is still cowering at the idea of the NPCs for no reason and aren't his comical misunderstandings so funny, the NPCs are repeating the same lines and traits you saw in the first volume because that's what people like, right? And you can practically write the arc yourself once you've got the ground details laid out.
It's a frustrating waste of potential in my opinion. Lord only knows how the anime is going to play out, it's fairly popular but the novel only has a few more regions and will be finished soon, and they'll have to adapt their own stuff if they want to keep it going and what's there satisfying. Assuming they continue with the series at all at this point.
 
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Having read it, Overlord is pretty decent until it very suddenly isn't, at which point the writing craters hard. The author, Maruyama, is kind of a sperg who got a bee up his ass about unofficial foreign translations (his own fault, the pace of the official releases was glacial and the quality dubious) and started to hate the breakout hit series that made his name relevant, rushing to end the story by volume 17 so he can work on some new passion project instead (about wrestling or something, I dunno the guy's a dipshit and I don't see why anyone should trust any work he puts out in the future if this is how he's going to treat a franchise and his fans).
The main problem is that Overlord essentially doesn't ever progress. What you see at the start of the series is still what you'll have a dozen volumes in. It sets up a lot, does a pretty good job of it honestly between character progression and worldbuilding, and even seems to commit to it for a while before Maruyama's decision to end the series hits and it all returns to the mean. The deeper worldbuilding and lore threads hinting at a broader world and conspiracy get dropped in favour of the already established regions and resolving their conflict. Ainz goes from an un-educated but surprisingly competent manager to buying into his own "Sasuga Ainz" hype where it's just a perpetual display of idiocy that is presented as genius even though anyone with a lick of sense can tell his actions and policies have all the political and social sense of a sack of drowned kittens, with far more competent and satisfying conclusions to arcs staring the audience in the face (hello Renner) going ignored in the face of pure brute power fantasy solutions.
Characters stop progressing and even regress, becoming a collection of flanderised traits. This was fine early because it has the easy excuse of them being literal NPCs but loses its luster when it shows them developing their own traits due to now having free will, and it makes the writing's formulaic nature more and more intolerable (go to new region > POV switch to residents > they go through an arc so you can care about them > Nazarick plays its hand and they all die horrible deaths with 1-2 becoming new servants > Ainz gloats over how much you just read was rendered totally meaningless) because Overlord's ensemble cast of NPCs is its best part and late Overlord refuses to take them where the reader wants beyond gag scenes and interactions.
Damn you read really far... Overlord stopped being interesting for me after the hero dude dies from some cheap fucking RPG move ainz pulls out of his ass. There's all of this tension built up for the guy and then he just gets offed like it's a joke, some people might've found it cool but I found it insulting tbh. Again, make ainz less overpowered, make the nations unite against him so he has to go covert and do politics or something, humanize him and make the goal of the series to find the other players. That literally fixes everything.

It's almost as bad a shield hero literally jumping the fucking shark after volume 4 holy shit... these guys have such cool ideas and then they absolutely fuck it all up like somebody smashed them in the head with a lead bat.
 
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I got baited into watching a few episodes of Call of the Night after seeing a bunch of Nazuna fanart and cosplays recently, here is my review
:hansen:
(honestly it seems decent enough for what it is, I'll probably finish it but it's going on the backlog for now)
 

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I got baited into watching a few episodes of Call of the Night after seeing a bunch of Nazuna fanart and cosplays recently, here is my review
:hansen:
(honestly it seems decent enough for what it is, I'll probably finish it but it's going on the backlog for now)

Call of the night is pretty good plus the anime did an excellent job in nailing the whole "night life" vibe. Also Creepy Nuts is involved and the insert song perfectly captures the said vibe.



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I LOST MY DRAFT AGAIN AIEEEE
 

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