Pippakistan's Psych Ward v3

[Realticule]

She mighty actually like Civ 6 more than Civ 5. The happiness system really sucked in Civ 5 and was toned way down in 6 which was the best thing about it.

 

[Helkar]

She mighty actually like Civ 6 more than Civ 5. The happiness system really sucked in Civ 5 and was toned way down in 6 which was the best thing about it.

I agree, happiness system was kind of iffy in vanilla civ5.
Vox Populi mostly fixed the issue, tho not fully.

 

[Eat em and breed em]

Oh she has a ending song with the national language of capippis

 

[Realticule]

I agree, happiness system was kind of iffy in vanilla civ5.
Vox Populi mostly fixed the issue, tho not fully.

The worst part about it is it punished you for expanding in the base game and that can turn things into a major grind. Plus, expanding is just really fun.

 

[Helkar]

The worst part about it is it punished you for expanding in the base game and that can turn things into a major grind. Plus, expanding is just really fun.

Doesn't civ6 have its own limiters on how many cities you can slap down? I don't remember myself, i barely played 6.

 

[Realticule]

Doesn't civ6 have its own limiters on how many cities you can slap down? I don't remember myself, i barely played 6.

Maybe? I never really ran into it before running out of space to slap down cities. The only thing I can think of is production feels really slow in Civ 6, but if you buy a granary with gold you can really ramp it quick.

 

[Atlas]

Do you trust the media to be honest about how they reported the story?

Nigga, what the fuck are you talking about we were there. well you weren't but the rest of us were

 

[Realticule]

Nigga, what the fuck are you talking about we were there. well you weren't but the rest of us were

Why were you in a child's classroom, overseeing his poptarts? Do you have something to confess? Does @thhrang need to be involved?

 

[RedRage]

Civ 5 is good
Pippa is dumb
That is all

 

[RestlessRain]

Civ 5 is good
Pippa is dumb
That is all

I was getting pretty worried there for the last week with Pippa actually having good taste in games. But now I know that Pippa hates a good game like Civ V, I can rest easy now.

 

[Realticule]

Civ 5 is good
Pippa is dumb
That is all

Civ V is ok. It has a lot of things better then Civ VI but has a couple things that really cripple it which people overlook because they became numb to it.

 

[RedRage]

Civ V is ok. It has a lot of things better then Civ VI but has a couple things that really cripple it which people overlook because they became numb to it.

I feel like districts and needing to plan and specialize each city ahead of time in 6 is going to filter her harder than just happiness. Going in knowing nothing about how either game works I'd rather try and learn 5 from scratch over 6 for that reason alone.

 

[Realticule]

I feel like districts and needing to plan and specialize each city ahead of time in 6 is going to filter her harder than just happiness. Going in knowing nothing about how either game works I'd rather try and learn 5 from scratch over 6 for that reason alone.

I don't think that matters. On hard mode you probably need to know and plan districts but if you're playing on normal to easy like she is, as long as you stick with a plan you'll be fine. Really even in the slightly hard modes as long as you have military you'll be ok from early invasions the game likes to do in Civ 6.

I don't think either Civ 5 or Civ 6 are that hard, but I do think Civ 5's happiness mechanic is counter to what the expected playstyle is. It's not that Happiness is impossible, or too hard, it's just you need to understand it to play the game at all, while districts you can stumble your way through even if you don't know what you're doing if you're playing on a normal setting.

That's what I'd also call bad design, if it's something that's one of many mechanics that can completely cripple you by doing what feels like the intended path and you won't see it happen until it's too late. I know the first time I played Civ 5 I got kneecapped by Happiness, but didn't really have that problem in Civ 6 with anything. Sure, the second time I played Happiness wasn't really that bad, but when the first game is several hours it's not exactly a great first experience.

 

[RedRage]

I don't think that matters. On hard mode you probably need to know and plan districts but if you're playing on normal to easy like she is, as long as you stick with a plan you'll be fine. Really even in the slightly hard modes as long as you have military you'll be ok from early invasions the game likes to do in Civ 6.

I don't think either Civ 5 or Civ 6 are that hard, but I do think Civ 5's happiness mechanic is counter to what the expected playstyle is. It's not that Happiness is impossible, or too hard, it's just you need to understand it to play the game at all, while districts you can stumble your way through even if you don't know what you're doing if you're playing on a normal setting.

That's what I'd also call bad design, if it's something that's one of many mechanics that can completely cripple you by doing what feels like the intended path and you won't see it happen until it's too late. I know the first time I played Civ 5 I got kneecapped by Happiness, but didn't really have that problem in Civ 6 with anything.

Happiness is fine imo if you take the time to read the tooltips and polices. something she didn't do. She rushed honor cause she wanted to early war, never did that, and only tried to deal with the issues once they reached snowball stage. Just reading would deal with 90% of her issues, as was clear when after getting btfo'ed by 3 she took time to try and learn 4 and had a lot of fun cause of that. I fully believe most of her issues and attitude towards the game came from the tech issues souring her mood beforehand and her latching onto retards in chat when she already knew people would be giving her shit advice from the last 10 civ streams.

 

[Realticule]

Happiness is fine imo if you take the time to read the tooltips and polices. something she didn't do. She rushed honor cause she wanted to early war, never did that, and only tried to deal with the issues once they reached snowball stage. Just reading would deal with 90% of her issues, as was clear when after getting btfo'ed by 3 she took time to try and learn 4 and had a lot of fun cause of that. I fully believe most of her issues and attitude towards the game came from the tech issues souring her mood beforehand and her latching onto retards in chat when she already knew people would be giving her shit advice from the last 10 civ streams.

The game has a shitload of tool tips. The problem with Happiness is it's counter to how the game runs and it's not oppressive enough to kill you so quickly that you know you need to focus on it as a core mechanic. It's that shitty aspect of the game that's enough to make it unfun and drag the first playthrough for hours with little to no indication that it's the mechanic of that game.

 

[RestlessRain]

Civ V has a really good onboarding process, it gives you advice every single time a new circumstance pops up or at specific points in time, whether it's starting the game, getting a new unit type, revealing new resources, getting into combat, or gaining a new technology or building. There's also advisors that tell you what your problems are and how to fix them. If you ignore all of that, of course you're going to have a bad time.