General Vtuber Discussion (V1)

[Burner of the East]

Minor update on Yaxie.

archive.ph

Apparently she's backtracked and deleted all those tweets where she ranted a lot. Hopefully things get better in the future for her. Though she'd probably go back to her usual schtick. Once a coombaiter, always a coombaiter.

Twitter embed seems fucked on my side.

 

[Scoots]

Onolumi is having a watchalong of The Frighteners right now, but she's more than half done.

I love that movie

Altare Lol was mentioned but not linked:

Gura mentioned Altare? Neat baby steps
I overdosed on hopium that is not what that post meant

Nodoka pulls a deep voice and activates chat neurons

Nyanners boy toy goes flesh streamer in addition to Vtuber ala Kson

Zeta embraces her Cat instincts

 

[NeneLOVE]

For someone who doesn't know anything about Vshojo, what's so bad about them?

Spoiler: Autism

I don't care about all of these (or even take them seriously) but here are some reasons people dislike 'em:
-It isn't even a real corpo, it's just a clique of friends pretending
-The talent goes from complete cunts: Vei, Nyanners, Unlikeable: Silvervale, Zen, Unremarkable: Froot, and finally actually likeable: Melody, Ironmouse
-They frequently collab with fleshtubers, anitubers and just regular normies that some people fucking hate
-Some of them (Hime) have really poor/literally non-existent opsec
-A lot of people are still salty at nyanners so anything she's involved with is instantly hated too
-Vei has badmouthed hololive in public and doubled down when confronted
-They specialize in raunchy, sexually charged content that is often targeted at coomers and other vermin, their humour can sometimes be incredibly superficial due to this; aka the whole "peepeepoopoo" thing
-Zentreya in general, him using a voicechanger and pretending to be a woman (which for some reads as borderline troonery) and his dramatic freakouts in twitter as well as his weird past actions which im not that well versed in
-Their whole "talent freedom" thing, which many equated as a jab at hololive and other proper corpos and which essentially means unrestrained autism, and them using it as a fucking slogan
-Some people's tribalism at them collabing with holo and niji
-The whole nux drama which showed many people how bitchy and backstab-y a lot of them can be
-Their kuiper belt of orbiters many of whom are other unlikeable indies who also specialize in degenerate content
-The fact that they are so popular with normies and are the first thing a lot of western newcomers see when finding out about vtubers, which reinforces the idea that the whole medium is just another kind of degenerate porn.
-And finally, just their general influence on the scene and their rise to fame (or infamy) which has influenced a lot of indies to be less proffesional and adopt their twitch-like culture

 

[Gravedigger]

already on mega though

That's a nice folder, who is curating it?

Gura mentioned Altare? Neat baby steps

Nope, I meant the stream was mentioned earlier in the thread, not by Gura.

Edit:

He'd had to have, that's too high to have reached if it was made when he debuted or even just by the time he was confirmed.

Yeah that's my point. I'm rather surprised that he does that, and isn't forced to make a new holo acount.

 

[Todd's Strongest Howard]

Edit: Wait he is lv. 319? Did he simply rename his personal LoL account?

He'd had to have, that's too high to have reached if it was made when he debuted or even just by the time he was confirmed.

 

[RestlessRain]

Pippa getting slightly existential since she can't do a stream:



Had a think about this, and I think Pippa is approaching this the wrong way. You have streamers you like because of the experience they offer from their personality, interests, and topics. Experiences aren't art in the same way that hanging with your mate isn't art. And I find plenty of Pippa's streams to be quite memorable, like Pippa playing chess and abusing her opponent like she was playing on xbox live, singing Ram Ranch at a concert, rating the pokemon she'd screw, or group-watching the Love on a Leash movie. Subjective opinions of course, but then everyone's opinions on what a good stream is are subjective.

 

[BlueSharkTV]

I downloaded gura's karaoke and uploaded it to GAYFILE tell me if it has any errors, i think it had a hiccup or two.

 

[El Rrata]

that isn't mired in schizo faggotry.

Eh, that's debateable in some of the threads...

That stupid netflix show is trending so expect some more of your <brand> entertainers to hop in on the bandwagon.

"Stupid Netflix show" doesn't narrow down what show you are talking about at all.

 

[EliteDoragon]

The collab ended, but now Altare is committing self harm by playing LoL solo

 

[masterstocking]

 

[Realticule]

Pippa getting slightly existential since she can't do a stream:



Had a think about this, and I think Pippa is approaching this the wrong way. You have streamers you like because of the experience they offer from their personality, interests, and topics. Experiences aren't art in the same way that hanging with your mate isn't art. And I find plenty of Pippa's streams to be quite memorable, like Pippa playing chess and abusing her opponent like she was playing on xbox live, singing Ram Ranch at a concert, rating the pokemon she'd screw, or group-watching the Love on a Leash movie. Subjective opinions of course, but then everyone's opinions on what a good stream is subjective.

Most media is not very memorable as almost every movie and tv show will be forgotten after enough time has passed and the reason we think older media is good is because all we have left are the bits that survived through time and not the countless pieces of trash no one can even name anymore. If you watch some older movies, especially ones outside of eras in which you've lived in, they will seem alien. I remember finding out "The Fountain Head" by Ayn Rand had a movie adaptation in black and white, and while works like that are always poorly adapted, this adaptation felt like a weird clip show that was played out of order, but that's just how they made movies back then, they'd hit what they thought were the high notes and splice them together in hopes that people would piece the story together in their heads. It was much closer to theater.

Streams have an interesting opportunity though, in that they have so much quantity that there's a bigger chance of one being memorable, if the person streaming is doing interesting things and not just going with the flow. I think Pippa does enough to challenge things that some of her content will be memorable even if most of it won't be, which is unavoidable.

 

[Ednine]

I have noticed that the YT-DLP is downloading shit in either WEBM or MKV format and for some reason Davinci is having problems recognizing most of the files in that format. Not too happy about that shit since I basically have to download shit, then pop it into another video editing soft ware to then Export in the proper format to then finally be able to edit it.

Spoiler: yt-dlp stuff

I don't know which commands you are using but i used
-f "bv*[ext=mp4]+ba/b[ext=mp4] / bv*+ba/b"
so it downloads the best mp4 with the best audio.

This are the commands i tested during a live stream so i can confirm they work together
--live-from-start -f "bv*[ext=mp4]+ba/b[ext=mp4] / bv*+ba/b" --ignore-errors
so it downloads the stream from the beginning even if you missed it (only works on youtube AFAIK)

I also dont know if yt-dlp works the same on all operating systems, so im sorry in advanced if it's not the same/doesn't work as i only used it on windows.

I just use:

--merge-output-format mp4

It'll download the highest quality files (as per the default) and then, as a second step, convert them to mp4 if they're not already.

 

[The Peanut Gallery]

Grimmi is streaming now for real this time. The subathon is next week raising money to make a skelter keychain, a non lewd dakimakura, a fumo, and a voice pack. Also she's making stickers and doing 4 covers in the next coming months. One of the subathon incentives is a vtuber dating show.

 

[Crush]

-Zentreya in general, him using a voicechanger and pretending to be a woman (which for some reads as borderline troonery) and his dramatic freakouts in twitter as well as his weird past actions which im not that well versed in

I wanted to cover the trans thing a long time ago. There is literally no evidence at all that Zen is trans. I searched Twitter, Reddit, and her personal Discord and nothing. I even talked to one of the admins a couple months when I was gathering this info. (I know I botched it a bit at first, fixed. And if you're wondering why I didn't censor my name in my convo screenshot, I mean you already know my name on Discord, no point in hiding it now imo)
edit to clarify: While I know you aren't saying Zen is trans, it just reminded me of other people who did say that. Plenty of people called Zen a "troon", so plenty of people thought she was trans.

Spoiler: The Evidence

 

[Realticule]

(I know I botched it a bit at first, fixed)

It was an impressive mess up.

 

[masterstocking]

I wanted to cover the trans thing a long time ago. There is literally no evidence at all that Zen is trans. I searched Twitter, Reddit, and her personal Discord and nothing. I even talked to one of the admins a couple months when I was gathering this info.

You might be missing the point. Zentreya is a man posing as a woman. He may not actually be a tranny-in-the-making physically, but the way he acts all the time? He may as well be.

 

[Aka Split]

Some degen in the wAIfu thread posted a mega upload link to 158 sub 10 or 5 sec snippets of Yabairys out of context with coomer titles I knew there was a reason for calling her that but Jesus woman some of these are REALLY bad out of context

Edit: oh shit that's just one folder there is so much more than I thought Jesus Christ the coomer grindset no knows no bounds apparently

Spoiler: Mega link

2.26 GB folder on MEGA

956 files and 32 subfolders

mega.nz

This was funny at first, but the more folders you look at the weirder and creepier it gets....still saving the link because some of the out of context clips are still funny. Looks like it hasn't been updated in a long time though. Extremely cringe file names too.

I remember finding out "The Fountain Head" by Ayn Rand had a movie adaptation in black and white, and while works like that are always poorly adapted, this adaptation felt like a weird clip show that was played out of order, but that's just how they made movies back then, they'd hit what they thought were the high notes and splice them together in hopes that people would piece the story together in their heads. It was much closer to theater.

You sure you weren't just watching Memento? That's kinda the point of that movie.

 

[Sithis]

Someone's looking at the noose in their closet longingly.

Tbh if anyone could sympathize with difficulties getting twitch partner it'd probably be the VShojo crew lol the original bunch all had a tough time getting partnered except Zen iirc, Melody had troubles because she'd been banned after her first stream and the others at the time were smaller creators. I still remember Silver malding when ironmouse got partner and everyone in her chat was celebrating it, she went on a big "don't discuss other streamers in my chat even if they're my friends, k?" tear.

 

[Crush]

You might be missing the point. Zentreya is a man posing as a woman. He may not actually be a tranny-in-the-making physically, but the way he acts all the time? He may as well be.

I'm only mentioning this because I've heard a lot of people call Zentreya a "troon". So clearly the idea of Zen being trans is common.

Perhaps I could've said something to make that clearer. And that I wasn't talking specifically about what Nenelove was saying, oh well

Also the fact Zen isn't even trans makes pretending to be a woman such much worse. He really has no excuse for lying. What an asshole.

 

[masterstocking]

It ain't just me missing Ina right now: