General Vtuber Discussion (V1)

[Tyrvalla]

damn man, I just love how Subaru gets so invested into the game.

 

[Fucking YTs]

damn man, I just love how Subaru gets so invested into the game.

I agree. I wish I could still be that way.

 

[Aliepheese]

Who's the fifth, Calli?

Kronii

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Spoiler: Islamic verbiage inside

Over the past 2 months she's apparently been getting spicier and spicier. She, uhh... there's no tactful way to say this... she has been what I'll call 'lightly masturbating' and increasingly she's been more forward with the nipple play. If what her threads on 4chan say are correct, I'd give her up to 2 years before she's actually showing off all her goods. If she goes full menhera she might even go more hardcore. Now, I usually wouldn't just regurgitate 4chan info as fact, but like I said before I don't handle her brand of asmr very well and I haven't verified this stuff beyond the images they've posted. So take it with a grain of salt.

There's always the chance that she likes it and just wants to do more of it, or maybe she wants a safety net? If you told me I could make more money just by doing something I like to do, then in my opinion there's no reason not to do so. As long as you are willing to put in the work I can't really see any downside.

Two years is a highly conservative window. I kind of wonder if Cover would actually keep her on if she went full hardcore. I know they've said something in the past about not interfering in talents personal lives but do they actually mean it?

I guarantee Cover wouldn't actually care. They might crack down a little on her cross tweeting on twitter if it gets more hardcore, but they aren't going to fire her for it. I actually think two years might not be enough time to ne honest. Obvious thots like Amouranth and Meg Turney took years and years of doing the teasing stuff before going further into it, and I'm certain it's because people will eventually drop off once they've seen the goods. So as long as you put off revealing it, all the people who are curious to see it will keep coming back hoping to finally get what they want. If Noel can keep her head on straight she could milk this stuff for years and years.

To add a little more info to current Canan situation, someone here mention that earlier this month she got diagnose with Bipolar disorder, after digging some more the context of how she decided to get a diagnosis is quite interesting, during last month FC stream she had a basically full on nipple slip, after the fact she obviously censored the VOD but clips of it started circulating like wildfire, she says that after this happened she expected to get really upset like she usually does, but she surprised herself by realizing she was really calm and just dealing with the situation very calmly this was apparently what raised the red flag something was wrong with her, and made her get and appointment with a professional and eventually a diagnosis, she said that this has her really down and that her content would be erratic for a while, she also said she would stop using her twitter for anything other than announcing live steams, she also apparently talked in the FC with the nip slip that she doesn't want to go "hardcore" because she is afraid of the types of fans that would bring.

> So in summary Noel/Canan is now a medically cetified Mehera
> The thing preventing her for just doing porn is afraid of the fanbase that would attract
> If one of you coomers out there want to see Noel n*ples they are out there. (at least one of them)
> relevant tweet about her schedule and use of tweeter going foward

Spoiler: Tweet

 

[Realticule]

Updates from the homeland, the life of Josh is a rough one. Though he does seem to know the lay of the land and where various companies stand.

Spoiler: Images

 

[Crush]

I stand by my statement. High quality shit is still shit. Reaction channels is the easiest content to generate and adding a little polish to that doesn't change the fact that the content is garbage. That's why you see daily uploads from these channels, it's churn and burn.

hmm good point. I retract that critique then. But still believe that not all reaction content is shit.

 

[GOD'S STRONGEST BUILDERBEAR]

Just watch something that requires effort for once and then youll change your outlook on all reaction content

 

[Watamate]

At least there's some drip feed Ina content.

 

[Scoots]

Tonkatsu Sinclair aka Absolute Unit posted new short clip. It's funny how this echoes our discussion yesterday about pizza.

You lurking here DWK? If so I love your content

Guess Nux is back to attention whoring. Recently he popped up in Kson's anniversary stream. And he released this video (possibly recorded about two or three weeks ago) about Vtuber-related drama where he basically misses a ton of points and gets a bunch of shit wrong. Starts off by basically pushing the whole talent freedom shit when talking about Coco and speaks about Hololive implying that they don't give a shit about their talents and shilling them to his general audience. Also mentions that Coco is Kson and Rushia is Nasuna. Not sure if its just me being autistic but shit feels weird. (also using Depressed Nousagi's tier list stream)

Even as resident Nux defender he did do a pretty shit job here

I never understand why so many of thses girls set up a second account, when they already have a cushy Hololive job that pays them well. Creating content for this account will just be extra work, it the eventual burnout really worth the 50k? escpcially if she could just do smooth sailing on Holo and still earn well. Do the japs need money that bad?

Safety nets are always good Kson has proven the effectiveness of having one

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I have no source other than vt on this, but apparently Irys did a yab
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For all who grew used to Irys design and looks, thats good news; everyone else- fuck you Irys is cute!

I agree this makes me more excited tho now I wonder what exactly the issue was that brought on this redesign if not the artist

WAH becomes a marketing term for Hyundai

Never thought I'd be educated on the Korean Wah by a car commercial but here I am

Rat Vtuber Zeke Marigold is debuting soon, it's Mr. Clemps, youtube game reviewer and twitch streamer. He was around Pat Boivin (PatStaresAt, AngriestPat from former SuperBestFriendsPlay), PeachSaliva, SuperButterBuns. Info is not hidden, he links Mr.Clemps in his bio and Twitch channel is the same.

On youtube he primarily reviews JRPGs and older video games, pretty sure his most famous work is covering Drakengard and Nier series.

I like Clemps shame it's twitch tho I wonder if he has a VOD channel

I feel like steampunk's close enough to still count as a thematic match, tbh.

Who's the fifth, Calli?

It's definitely Kronii

Also THANK YOU @The Proctor YOU ARE A LIFE AND LITERAL TIME SAVER
Have some original reaper poetry from last night's stream

Spoiler: Spoilered for length

 

[AyoTempus]

Kronii Axel with a cold

Axel has so much energy and personality that he can be two members of Tempus at once. Sasuga dingo aniki.

Just watch something that requires effort for once and then youll change your outlook on all reaction content

I'd personally say stuff like "Musician reacts to X song" type of stuff and actually tries to explain what makes it interesting to them can really highlight some aspects that a far more normie/casual listener can not see or understand but on some level can feel. It really adds an appreciation for how much goes into well made musical pieces and themes. Which to me is the peak reaction content can have, using a viral video to explain concepts and ideas in a easy to understand format.

I remember a boat guy reacted to Internet Historian's cruise ship video awhile back, and he brought up some very nice little things that really adds to the overall story because he could actually explain from a professional view how fucked that whole story was. It is a useful spring board into telling people things about professions they likely don't engage with very often.

I know that's not Charlie's thing, but I don't believe all react content is garbage. Sure it is not high effort content but it can still have some value then the typical "Internet goblin streamer reacts to viral video/event." type of thing

 

[Ensok]

I don't think I've ever actually watched Nina Kosaka but depending on how much she actually plays Mass Effect I might start now.

 

[Aquatic Novellite]

I'm okay with react content by people who did serious content and got burned out, laying back for a bit and using react content to keep their audience engaged until they restart the grind. It's not great content by any means, but give the guys a break. Prime example would be Cheese05.

If react content is the primary content with no prior history of something else... I won't know the guy in the first place, so whatever.

 

[Scoots]

I don't think I've ever actually watched Nina Kosaka but depending on how much she actually plays Mass Effect I might start now.

Stream link

take your bets Renegade or Paragon personally I'm renegade for life but idk what she'll pick

she plans to play all 3 also she has played them before so there will be spoilers

Based vanguard pick

 

[Fucking YTs]

Since I've seen a lot of users use double horizontal lines in their long replies, I've put an icon

right after the horizontal rule to add a double HR.
It will add the following:

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Just put your content above or below it. You can always hit preview to view it. Unfortunately adding new BBcode will always be in a code format like the above as the editor has no idea how to render it. I've added the appropriate CSS to each theme, but if you want it toned down a bit let me know.

 

[Aka Split]

I am reaction content. IRyS playing Outlast later today, with yet another sus thumbnail quote:

"gameplay ends when I am at my limit lol
【OUTLAST】How long will I LAST?
More like OUT FIRST"

But yeah, about reaction content;

I'd personally say stuff like "Musician reacts to X song" type of stuff and actually tries to explain what makes it interesting to them can really highlight some aspects that a far more normie/casual listener can not see or understand but on some level can feel. It really adds an appreciation for how much goes into well made musical pieces and themes. Which to me is the peak reaction content can have, using a viral video to explain concepts and ideas in a easy to understand format.

This is my general take on it. Seeing reaction videos to things I am only tangentially interested in, but then hearing a deeper explanation has caused me to appreciate songs that I otherwise would not have been particularly interested in or been able to put into words myself.
One such thing I remember mentioning a long time ago is an animator/director who was reacting to a KDA music video and pointing out how the 5 different characters were doing the same dance moves, but they were all slightly different to show their individual character. Someone makes snappier movements, someone else is more fluid, etc. When someone animates all the characters dancing the exact same way it looks awkward and unnatural, but when those differences are added in it looks much more realistic. I don't know if I would have been able to recognize that and put it into words myself besides, "That looks bad, I don't know why. This looks good, I don't know why."

The way I view react content is that it should be catered towards your already existing audience, because your audience might have an invested interest in your opinions. Or vice versa, when a certain community might be interested in seeing an outsider's opinion. Or maybe I'm just a sucker, because I've been watching Vampire Survivor outsiders try and comment on HoloCure.

I also agree with this and sometimes like that type of content too, but you run a higher risk of finding ‘content’ creators whose only reactions are *pog-face* “ that was cool. Oh that was so cool. Oh wow that’s cool.” *reach the 10-minute mark in the video and immediately proceed to…* “Well guys that’s all that was really cool, like follow comment subscribe smash all my stuff bye!”
At that point you just have to be able to discern whether a person is actually engaging with what they are reacting to, or are just going through the motions for the YouTube algorithm and search tags.

 

[Ensok]

Stream link

take your bets Renegade or Paragon personally I'm renegade for life but idk what she'll pick

she plans to play all 3 also she has played them before so there will be spoilers

Based vanguard pick

Renegade would definitely be more entertaining until you reach 3 where it just becomes stupid. Vanguard was what I picked when I first played ME but every other time I just went plain Soldier.

>She's already calling Ashley racist and saying you should let her die

 

[MAXIMUM PENETRATION]

With you guys arguing about react content, do you differentiate it from people reporting on community events/news?

The way I view react content is that it should be catered towards your already existing audience, because your audience might have an invested interest in your opinions. Or vice versa, when a certain community might be interested in seeing an outsider's opinion. Or maybe I'm just a sucker, because I've been watching Vampire Survivor outsiders try and comment on HoloCure.

I'm pretty sure if you go to korea you may have a higher chance of finding a dude with tits than a woman with anything higher than a b cup (pornstars/cosplayers don't count).

Nothing plastic can't fix.

I feel like steampunk's close enough to still count as a thematic match, tbh.

Them's fighting words.

 

[masterstocking]

I'd personally say stuff like "Musician reacts to X song" type of stuff and actually tries to explain what makes it interesting to them can really highlight some aspects that a far more normie/casual listener can not see or understand but on some level can feel. It really adds an appreciation for how much goes into well made musical pieces and themes. Which to me is the peak reaction content can have, using a viral video to explain concepts and ideas in a easy to understand format.

I remember a boat guy reacted to Internet Historian's cruise ship video awhile back, and he brought up some very nice little things that really adds to the overall story because he could actually explain from a professional view how fucked that whole story was. It is a useful spring board into telling people things about professions they likely don't engage with very often.

I know that's not Charlie's thing, but I don't believe all react content is garbage. Sure it is not high effort content but it can still have some value then the typical "Internet goblin streamer reacts to viral video/event." type of thing

Reaction videos that are actually worth watching are somewhat rare. The best ones are when industry insiders like (for example) career music composers break down songs and use music theory to analyze why they are so good, or vocal teachers that explain how famous singers pull off what they do so well are the cream of the crop for me. In my opinion, the best reaction content comes from experts who actually know what they are talking about; ones who can teach you something about what they are analyzing. It just makes you appreciate it even more.

The only channels I actually subscribe to on YouTube are a few musician reaction channels, one drummer...and Pippa.

 

[Aliepheese]

Personally my take on react content is I dont care for streamers sitting there watching TikTok or Meme Compilations, but I care about streamers/Youtubers I like reaction to trailers, news, etc of things I like that I know they also like, they know is lazy content, I know it, ultimately I want to watch it, it cost almost nothing to both parties involved so there little reason not to do it, also in the same way watchalong are react content and even certain games are React content since I only care about "how X will react to that boss or that cutscene".

 

[lakyus]

Spooderhouse 2

 

[Scoots]

Dez begins his Sonic Adventure

He wants to play as many sonic games as he can to lead up to frontiers