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Aquatic Novellite

Merry Shiorin
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You losers here larp as mentally ill but in reality you are bunch of normies.
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I prefer they pass into forum myth and legend rather than get prominently highlighted. It just encourages an unnatural culture of one-upmanship otherwise.
Awww.

I mean, I understand the reasoning, but still awww.
You all keep using that C-slur on this board and I'm afraid I'm going to slip up and use it in real life. Damn.
Use it on twitter, then put 'they/them' as your pronouns. You'll be instantly forgiven.
Yeah? I mean did you really think I carry myself irl like how I type here? Half of my messages are literal roleplay my dude, I'm practically a pseudo-vtuber at this point.
That's pretty autistic, tho'.
 

White Stone

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Kind of retarded reasons given.
1 Using a copyrighted song, didn't luca use towa's and okayu's custom made BGM without asking?
2 Making statements that could lead to speculations using her personal accounts, what about kyo posting on his personal twitter throwing her under the bus.
3 Making offensive remarks regarding discrimination and sexual assault, see vox and nijicancelled.
4 Wanting to stream using pirated games, as far as i remember, didn't pomu get doxxed because she showed her torrent account?
5 Comments that can be considered offensive to the devs or publishers, look at selen for example, she talks shit about a lot of the games she plays.
6 Liking comments considered defamation to the company, but the other talents can shit on the company for cancelling the 3dlive due to "covid"
The rest i can understand, but this reasons look a little too hypocritical to me.
You listed different person for almost every points, while Zaion was a single person doing all of those.
 

UberSoldat

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In unrelated news, Onolumi started the OG Unreal
 

BlueSharkTV

Fucking Riggers
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You listed different person for almost every points, while Zaion was a single person doing all of those.
Yet none of them got a suspension or any sort of punishment.
 

this shit

fuck it
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silentcouch

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Zaion obviously wasn't meant for big corpo with that amount of reasons for the can. They are far too sensitive and complicit to twitter freak hate mob groups. Will be interesting to see her PL and how it does compared to her attempt at big corpo. Would be interesting to see the examples of some of the termination reasons they listed though. (if anyone is even that 💊'd on her) :botanshrug: irdc either way
 

CalciumAnimal

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Kind of retarded reasons given.
1 Using a copyrighted song, didn't luca use towa's and okayu's custom made BGM without asking?
2 Making statements that could lead to speculations using her personal accounts, what about kyo posting on his personal twitter throwing her under the bus.
3 Making offensive remarks regarding discrimination and sexual assault, see vox and nijicancelled.
4 Wanting to stream using pirated games, as far as i remember, didn't pomu get doxxed because she showed her torrent account?
5 Comments that can be considered offensive to the devs or publishers, look at selen for example, she talks shit about a lot of the games she plays.
6 Liking comments considered defamation to the company, but the other talents can shit on the company for cancelling the 3dlive due to "covid"
The rest i can understand, but this reasons look a little too hypocritical to me.
It's less about what she actually did and more her attitude assuming this list is being truthful

Doxxing will get you bonked but it happens apologize and move on this also feeds into "Kyo is a retard but not an intentional asshole" Theory considering shes fired and hes still around Copyrighted stuff is much the same fuck ups happen .
TLDR Too much Too Soon and an apparent unwillingness to apologize and play ball considering she was trying to call her fans the Zaionists no surprise it didin't fly.

maybe she should try Idolcorp.
 

Scuddle

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Kind of retarded reasons given.
1 Using a copyrighted song, didn't luca use towa's and okayu's custom made BGM without asking?
2 Making statements that could lead to speculations using her personal accounts, what about kyo posting on his personal twitter throwing her under the bus.
3 Making offensive remarks regarding discrimination and sexual assault, see vox and nijicancelled.
4 Wanting to stream using pirated games, as far as i remember, didn't pomu get doxxed because she showed her torrent account?
5 Comments that can be considered offensive to the devs or publishers, look at selen for example, she talks shit about a lot of the games she plays.
6 Liking comments considered defamation to the company, but the other talents can shit on the company for cancelling the 3dlive due to "covid"
The rest i can understand, but this reasons look a little too hypocritical to me.

You're not parsing the information correctly.

You're right in that any number of other people have made similar mistakes, I mean Lauren Iroas became 'Nipple Man' for the rest of his career for showing his pirated porn stash in front of 14k people. Yugo was put on a 'break' of 2 weeks for making fun of an earthquake. Towa reached out to Luca to give him BGM perms but he cut it from the VOD regardless.

Individual errors are not always suspension worthy (and I don't agree that NijiCancelled have ever overstepped the line), and people make infringements all the time that get cut or buried. The issue is that Zaion debuted 8 weeks prior to her suspension and somehow racked up a fucking SpongeBob To-Do List of major errors, and when she was put in Time Out, the company tried to help her get back on track and she refused.

She wasn't terminated for making these errors, she was terminated because the company had no reason to believe they wouldn't continue.
 

Crush

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Vox is doing a 24-hour charity stream for SAVE (Suicide Awareness Voices of Education) and it will seemingly involve 'NijiEN and others'. Selen already confirmed her participation. Starts in 6.5 hours.


Okay, going back into hiding while I finish off these projects.

just finished
Part 2 here
 

this shit

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Kotoka saying they (genmates and senpais) even fought with her to make her understand her mistakes, but they were very unaware of her situation as a whole (that's the part in the statement where niji says "giving false information to other livers" i guess).


K: "honestly I can't say if I'm in the state to wish her good luck on her future ahead" LMAO holy shit what did this zaion bitch did behind the scenes?
 

CalciumAnimal

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Kotoka saying they (genmates and senpais) even fought with her to make her understand her mistakes, but they were very unaware of her situation as a whole (that's the part in the statement where niji says "giving false information to other livers" i guess).
That one confused me thanks for spelling it out.

Considering that information obtained about the behind the scene stuff is always a little sanitized I have to wonder how much of a bitch Zaion was being behind the scenes
 

MornLurker

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sister claire showcasing her new 3D outfit if anyone's looking for something light to watch
 

Seth

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Now that the termination is confirmed.

Hey zaion/okami if you see this WELCOME to the virtual asylum dont hesitate to spill everything about your coworkers here it will stay between this beautiful community !
 

Limkin

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She wasn't terminated for making these errors, she was terminated because the company had no reason to believe they wouldn't continue
Translation: She just wasn't making enough money to ignore her wrongdoings and they couldn't explain to her why someone else could do this things and she can't without citing it as a reason. Things are either - inappropriate and everyone get reprimanded for them and management makes sure they don't do it again, or - not inappropriate and it should be fine to do them. You can't just go "well, it's ok to do a sexual harassment on stream once a month, just make sure it's no more than twice ok"
 

this shit

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/vt/ really does have a hateboner for luxiem and elira's clique uh?
 

GOD'S STRONGEST BUILDERBEAR

"Shut up, Dazzle. I will clip your balls" -SB
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lvl8

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Youtube numbers are being fucky to me.
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Scuddle

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Translation: She just wasn't making enough money to ignore her wrongdoings and they couldn't explain to her why someone else could do this things and she can't without citing it as a reason. Things are either - inappropriate and everyone get reprimanded for them and management makes sure they don't do it again, or - not inappropriate and it should be fine to do them. You can't just go "well, it's ok to do a sexual harassment on stream once a month, just make sure it's no more than twice ok"
Unfortunately, I can't reason with people who want to 'translate' things I say into completely different contexts altogether.

Zaion was the most lucrative female member of Xsoleil but that doesn't offset the fact that she spend 33% of her career suspended. I don't know how anyone can look at the list and think the rape joke was their biggest concern. She was causing major internal problems for staff and co-workers.
 

Spergatory

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Yeah yeah yeah Zaion is gone just like we expected.

In other news Kirsche is calling out Tim Pool asking to go on his show to tell him the truth about vtubers.
 

kestraline

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