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[Azehara]

Yeah that's the thing.

When the talents say something bad, or their words are misconstrued or taken out of context to be negative (like with Lamy that one time) EVERYONE AND THEIR MOTHER is there with a microphone to broadcast the negativity as much as possible.

When the talents say something good, and tell people they, AT THAT TIME, aren't planning on going anywhere. They are suddenly big liars being manipulated by the corporate bureaucracy or the investors or what have you.

It's a very blatant double standard and I don't feel like getting berated for believing them in BOTH instances instead of just whichever fits my current narrative.

You do realize that this is a vtuber gossip forum and there will always be double standards. Some members in Phase have said shit that if other members in another corpo had said the same people would be lighting up their pitchforks.

Hololive so far seems to be one of those corporations where we dont know much about how they operate. The only thing I can use as comparison is all the other shit corpos.

Shit nigga, gues Dokibird and Sayu were lying about everything, and they just dramatically left cause Riku wouldn't fuck them 17 times a day. Oh wait no, trusting those two gets you more little red hearts on twitter, doesn't it?

When it comes to talents talking shit about the corpo I tend to always side with the talent. I don't take their entire word as gospel like some of the "harassment" to come from other talents. I tend not to take those claims as 100% fact since more often than not it ends up being women being women and interpreting things in the worst way possible. Case in point Finana saying she got gaslight. Case in point Sayu believing that everyone hated her (and later on we learning that a few people did not view her as bad as she thought they did).

The provided text is a forum discussion within the VTuber community, focusing on trust, intellectual property (IP) ownership, and online presence dynamics. Here’s a concise summary of the key points:

1. Trust Issues (NeneLOVE vs. CalciumAnimal): NeneLOVE distrusts VTuber talents, citing instances where talents downplayed corporate issues only for problems like sudden graduations or mistreatment to emerge later. CalciumAnimal argues talents are generally trustworthy unless proven otherwise, as lying typically requires a motive.
2. IP Ownership Debate (bothyourhouses, frz, MerelyTourist): Users compare VTuber characters to traditional roles like Jack Sparrow. VTuber personas are deeply personal, unlike roles written by others, leading to debates about talents owning their IP. Some argue talents should retain rights to reference their roles post-departure, despite corporate ownership. NDAs are criticized for limiting talents’ ability to claim credit, though Japanese legal reforms may address this.
3. Social Media vs. Streaming Success (Phantasm): Phantasm questions if Twitter (X) followings translate to stream viewership, noting VTubers with large Twitter audiences often have low stream views. This is attributed to platform differences and minimal audience overlap, similar to YouTube vs. Twitch disparities.
4. Corporate Contracts and PR (ZerroDefex): Speculation arises about Nijisanji potentially letting contracts for talents like Twisty expire strategically to avoid PR backlash during new wave debuts.
5. Mental Health and Legal Action (Piava): A user discusses a VTuber’s stream addressing a traumatic situation, possibly involving a family member’s suicide, expressing hope for her mental recovery and potential legal action against a mental health institute.
6. Kayfabe and Persona Separation (Phantasm): A VTuber maintains strict separation between their real and virtual personas, emphasizing kayfabe (in-character performance) to keep their identities distinct.

Overall, the discussion highlights tensions between VTuber talents, corporations, and fans, focusing on trust, IP control, and the challenges of navigating online platforms while maintaining personal and professional boundaries.

How the fuck is the summary longer than the actual post? At most I just reply with 1 or 2 sentences per quote.

but.... Oh wait your Axehera nice try weirdo.

What kind of retarded response is this?
1. What do I gain from lying?
2. I never claimed that what im saying is 100% true. Just a rrat/speculation.

 

[Short]

Naganon was never even part of Hexa's innermost circle of groomers. He couldn't afford the 500$ a month bill for access to it. He was just a janny for her.

That's not true at all, he paid the $500 like a good simp! lmao


Also I think is a 1 time payment thing not that it matters, paying $500 to get access to your your oshis gay little secret club is still retarded anyway.

 

[Piava]

Naganon was never even part of Hexa's innermost circle of groomers. He couldn't afford the 500$ a month bill for access to it. He was just a janny for her.

That is actually really depressing lol, imagine going to bat for a fat drunk that much but to get close to her you either fork over 500 bucks or work for free like a filthy jannie... People really need to start having sex again.

Don't forget that this retard bought a very expensive wedding ring for her, while she had a boyfriend. To this day I can't comprehend how much of a cuck you have to be to do something like this.

 

[Brosnan Pierce Brosnan]

That is actually really depressing lol, imagine going to bat for a fat drunk that much but to get close to her you either fork over 500 bucks or work for free like a filthy jannie... People really need to start having sex again.

I asked him this a few times and he always said the same story. He only got into her because of her saying shit about the Jews. I would also make fun of her being brown to which he claimed the "she's Italian" defense. she was Mexican

 

[NeneLOVE]

You do realize that this is a vtuber gossip forum and there will always be double standards. Some members in Phase have said shit that if other members in another corpo had said the same people would be lighting up their pitchforks.

Yeah that's another bit of bullshit I have grumbled about in the past, I don't find it particularly fair either but it is what it is. That, however, is outside of our control, not being biased in what we call "lying" is.

Hololive so far seems to be one of those corporations where we dont know much about how they operate. The only thing I can use as comparison is all the other shit corpos.

Thus the root of this whole conversation.

 

[Phantasm]

I would also make fun of her being brown to which he claimed the "she's Italian" defense. she was Mexican

Spoiler

 

[The Proctor]

That's not true at all, he paid the $500 like a good simp! lmao

Okay, I guess I misremembered then. Thanks for the update.

 

[Piava]

A junkie who had a boyfriend and was bragging to her friends about how much money she was able to spend

Please stop giving me flashbacks regarding my past relationships.

 

[Azehara]

Thus the root of this whole conversation.

Why you sperging out then? Its a gossip forum and when there is a lack of information. As you should aready know, when there is a lack of clear information people will try to connect whatever dots possible and make their own rrats. You claim that the only dots we have are the talents saying that they are not leaving and that shit will calm down. And im saying that I dont trust the talents when they say this because its in their best interest to calm people down.

That's not true at all, he paid the $500 like a good simp! lmao

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Also I think is a 1 time payment thing not that it matters, paying $500 to get access to your your oshis gay little secret club is still retarded anyway.

Nag needs to find jesus or some shit.

 

[Abomination]

Don't forget that this retard bought a very expensive wedding ring for her, while she had a boyfriend. To this day I can't comprehend how much of a cuck you have to be to do something like this.

Didn't he also commission porn art of her character getting railed in a wedding dress?

All this for the price of a few Jew jokes.

Lmao.

 

[Superduper Samurai]

Why you sperging out then? Its a gossip forum and when there is a lack of information. As you should aready know, when there is a lack of clear information people will try to connect whatever dots possible and make their own rrats. You claim that the only dots we have are the talents saying that they are not leaving and that shit will calm down. And im saying that I dont trust the talents when they say this because its in their best interest to calm people down.


Nag needs to find jesus or some shit.

People are allowed to call rrats retarded if they believe so and/or have conflicting info, and some rrats have spread too much for no good reason.

Your entire argument hinges on "yeah but they could be lying" which almost everyone can rationalize as being possible, but ultimately its what we have and some will trust talent for various reasons until there is hard proof of any lying

 

[Zyklon Mag]

Femcels don't exist I've seen the nastiest ugliest most disgusting bitches get dickedus so frequently that I can only believe the reason a woman isn't getting some is because they're incapable of giving the barest amount of effort

Femcels as exact mirrors of their male counterparts (place more emphasis on coitus over relationships, rejected by the opposite sex, assume they're a monolith of negative stereotypes and then hate them due to not getting to fuck) are rare since men as a gender have lower standards for sex than women. Femcels tend to want relationships more than coitus, get put off by the behaviors of the opposite sex, assume they're a monolith of negative stereotypes and then hate them for not being a certain way. Both end up commiserating with other morose people online and/or goon to weird pornography, though femcels are more likely to continue bitching to other femcels than take violent action.



Thread tax: Bettel and Flayon are playing this Lies of P ish game because they have a problem. Flayon, cute little house Yamanba he is, said he respected the white man as the average.

 

[Pencilfreak]

@Phantasm be attracted to French women!

 

[Phantasm]

@Phantasm be attracted to French women!

Never there are plenty of beautiful non-french girls out there that don't talk like they have a dick in their mouth

 

[Pencilfreak]

Never there are plenty of beautiful non-french girls out there that don't talk like they have a dick in their mouth

Darn! *COD Modern Warfare "Mission failed! We'll get 'em next time" sfx*

 

[Pencilfreak]

Oh I almost forgot! Mint is streaming DMC 5 kino.

 

[I Wanna Die]

"I don't trust the talent so trust me instead"
I honestly trust nobody except the talents at this point, they are the only people who know what goes on in the company.

I do find it quite fascinating how you tend to be very candid/provocative on twitter, just throwing out baseless speculation like candy and replying to reactionary takes from people, but then suddenly become a lot meeker, more reasonable and measured when on here. You do realize anything you do under the same account name WILL find its way back here?

He can't make $20 a month on here posting engagement bait. After the cost of premium that's like 3 months salary for him.

 

[VSoyBoy]

Never there are plenty of beautiful non-french girls out there that don't talk like they have a dick in their mouth

 

[Superduper Samurai]

Never there are plenty of beautiful non-french girls out there that don't talk like they have a dick in their mouth

Atleast that way you can understand her when she gets yours in her mouth ayy lmao

 

[marklollis]

I may like to make fun of the french but french accent and women in general make me act unwise, Saruei is forgiven for being french