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Superduper Samurai

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This isn't a deplatforming, though. Nobody will stop buying from or boycott uwumarket if they don't drop her. They're just making sure that uwumarket knows the kind of person they're dealing with. It's deplatforming if you harass the platform and threaten it with consequences if it doesn't get rid of the people you want them to get rid of (lying and slandering them can also arguably count). Taking the person's words said on a public venue and holding them up where the platformer can see them via the same public venue is not wrong.
Even if they're right its kinda gay to have it all be done out of a letter writing campaign
If Uwumarket's stock doesnt sell and they decide to drop her then fine enough, but doing it solely because people bitched online is gay with maybe an exception if its someone who did something geniunely horrible like an actual crime. I think TOS/contract break is also more than fair, but deplatforming because people wanted it just doest jive that well with me
 
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Lurker McSpic

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This is gay, deplatforming is always gay.
And this is exactly why things are the way they're. Until these asshole start learning that their bullshit can be used against them then we will get back to a civilized society. The internet is no longer a neutral zone, these cunts turned it into a pvp zone and you people refuse to use the weapons and meta they introduced into the game.
 

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On Twitter once, an intern at NASA was fired because she told someone to suck her dick & balls, and it turned out to be her boss. Would it have been an act of deplatforming if she'd said it to a different account, but then that person or another viewer sent it to her boss, who decided to fire her anyway?
Yes, it would have.
 

MerelyTourist

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Ok, kinda obvious TLDR for people who don't care to backread.
All she had to do is DM Kusa something like "hey pal, nice plush and all but i have an active plush drop with uwumarket so please don't market your leftovers for now".
Boom, done, no drama, everyone's happy.
 

RestlessRain

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>Make plushies as labor of love
>Some fucking psychopath has to start shit
>Retards in this thread side with the basketcase bitching and moaning because she didn't get compansated or "free shit."

I hope the Sonichu curse falls on all you enjoy.
No-one is supporting Gumpai. People are just saying cancel culture campaigns are gay, even if it's against people we don't like.
 

Hff201

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This isn't a deplatforming, though. Nobody will not buy or boycott uwumarket if they don't drop her. They're just making sure that uwumarket knows the kind of person they're dealing with. It's deplatforming if you harass the platform and threaten it with consequences if it doesn't get rid of the people you want them to get rid of (lying and slandering them can also arguably count). Taking the person's words said on a public venue and holding them up where the platformer can see them via the same public venue is not wrong.
I disagree, organised campaigns to have someone dropped from a service carry a lot of unspoken weight due to the current social climate and the drama that follows social media cancellations, and corporations are typically very risk averse. These people are co-ordinating, with the end goal of having her removed from the service, which is by definition removing a platform from her through third-party social pressure. Even if the campaign's being carried out because of genuine concern, the decision to remove her from the service won't be because of the specific incident but because the PR team felt threatened by the campaign, which is the same kind of thing that leads to controversial personalities being dropped by their sponsors and hosting platforms. The behaviour should be actively discouraged, because it is very easily abused.

It'd be something else entirely if it were organic; if Uwumarket independently discovered something that was against their pre-agreed terms of service and ended their working relationship with her over that, or the more likely situation, that she tries to sell her shit but barely anyone buys it because she's a bitch. But that's not what's happening here.
 

USS IOWA

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Ok, kinda obvious TLDR for people who don't care to backread.
All she had to do is DM Kusa something like "hey pal, nice plush and all but i have an active plush drop with uwumarket so please don't market your leftovers for now".
Boom, done, no drama, everyone's happy.
Vtubers aren't known for being smart, This forum wouldn't exist if they are.
 

The Proctor

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That's just playing with semantics, though. To a business like uwumarket, the angry mob and bad press are enough of a consequence on their own to make dropping her worthwhile. For all intents and purposes, this is an attempt to deplatform the woman.

When you choose to partner with and represent a brand, you enter into a contract with them that ties their PR with yours. It's your job to be a good representative. If you do something that would justify them dropping you, and the only reason you are not dropped is because they don't happen to notice you did it, then you still broke the contract - you just managed to dodge the consequences by luck and happenstance.

Maybe uwumarket doesn't give a damn what she says, in which case, that's fine; they're under no obligation to give a damn. The market will decide whether that turns out to be a profitable decision or not. But if they do give a damn, and this is something their contacts would take issue with her saying, then bringing it to their attention is not wrong. I consider this no different than warning a restaurant not to take job applications from a waitress I've overheard boasting about how she spits in customer's food.

Personally, I'd solve this by simply having every company give a very explicit set of public guidelines for its partners, so there is no ambiguity and no doubt involved as to whether or not something is worth reporting. Those guidelines will always exist in some form anyway, even if only as a vague set of moral principles in the CEO's head, so having them be clear and obvious is simply a public service. Unless you want to be Twitch or Youtube and purposefully obfuscate your CoC to keep your partners in constant fear of judgement. In a perfect world, no company would ever partner with someone whose conduct they disapproved of, but in the absence of a magical PR department that gives a damn and does its due diligence, public outcry is an acceptable substitute.

tl;dr; All that'll happening to Gumpai if she gets dropped is that she broke the contract she voluntarily entered into, and earned the consequences for it. In other words; don't shit where you eat.
 
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Nigel Nigerman

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Cassandra's being awfully feisty this week. Landlord's being a massive bitch again? Does the Kirsche plushy not enough for your fluffy foxtail needs? Do we need to sacrifice the thhrangussy so that you'll feel better?
 

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Wimps: Oh no guys, don't get jerks in trouble, if you get them in trouble for their own actions that's deplatforming and that's bad!

Quit being pussies. It's MORE funny if the uwu merch gets cancelled and she whines about it on twitter.
Also the statement 'her fans did nothing wrong'? They're her fans, they are inherently wrong.
Also, how the frick is complaining about a merch run 'deplatforming'? You stupid twats, merch is not a platform.
 

Nenélove

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@Nenélove your retardedly adorable
oshi is turning into a Korean.


Stop her or else she'll incur the wrath of the cute demon who's loyal to the Land of The Rising Sun. Remember what she did to Ina.

@Poyoyo & Jill our oshis will now do battle! I suggest you encourage yours to yield you cur! Lest the nenecromancer leave not a single molecule for you to cheer on!
 

Fau

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Man, I don't care about this gay shit drama. Here, have a cute hag dancing:

I love Botan's model.
 

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When you choose to partner with and represent a brand, you enter into a contract with them that ties their PR with yours. It's your job to be a good representative. If you do something that would justify them dropping you, and the only reason you are not dropped is because they don't happen to notice you did it, then you still broke the contract - you just managed to dodge the consequences by luck and happenstance.

Maybe uwumarket doesn't give a damn what she says, in which case, that's fine; they're under no obligation to give a damn. The market will decide whether that turns out to be a profitable decision or not. But if they do give a damn, and this is something their contacts would take issue with her saying, then bringing it to their attention is not wrong. I consider this no different than warning a restaurant not to take job applications from a waitress I've overheard boasting about how she spits in customer's food.

Personally, I'd solve this by simply having every company give a very explicit set of public guidelines for its partners, so there is no ambiguity and no doubt involved as to whether or not something is worth reporting. Those guidelines will always exist in some form anyway, even if only as a vague set of moral principles in the CEO's head, so having them be clear and obvious is simply a public service. Unless you want to be Twitch or Youtube and purposefully obfuscate your CoC to keep your partners in constant fear of judgement. In a perfect world, no company would ever partner with someone whose conduct they disapproved of, but in the absence of a magical PR department that gives a damn and does its due diligence, public outcry is an acceptable substitute.

tl;dr; All that'll happening to Gumpai if she gets dropped is that she broke the contract she voluntarily entered into, and earned the consequences for it. In other words; don't shit where you eat.
I get your distinction is "this company has entered into an actual commerce-related relationship with the person which makes the relationship more serious".

The distinction is bunk because literally every social media company has monetization options, which I guarantee she's a part of. Affiliate on Twitch, probably not enough subs to justify partner on youtube, engagement on Twitter, etc. All of which require contracts, even if their contracts are so automated as to look to the outside world as just another ToS.
 

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tarkanoltr

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She's coming off a 24 hour marathon stream, why can't she take a break?
 

RestlessRain

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And this is exactly why things are the way they're. Until these asshole start learning that their bullshit can be used against them then we will get back to a civilized society. The internet is no longer a neutral zone, these cunts turned it into a pvp zone and you people refuse to use the weapons and meta they introduced into the game.
Gumpai has already been dragged through twitter and become a social pariah for making a few bitchy twitter posts about someone that makes plushies. Fair enough, I have no problem with that. But at what point do we say that we have achieved some sort of justice in this situation? If it really is justice that's being sought here, rather than vindictive and petty punishment of people that we don't like that's pretending to be justice.

Oh, and bonus points if you can tell me who made the plushies originally without having to look it up. If everyone is so concerned about justice being sought here, do you even remember the name of who was wronged without having to look it up?
 

Banana Hammock

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Is there some karaoke thing happening right now? I saw a video around 8 that said it was starting in 98 minutes, but I can't remember what it was and now I can't find it.

Edit: Oh, never mind. It was IRyS's HoloCure stream. Found it literally right after posting this.
 

MerelyTourist

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When you choose to partner with and represent a brand, you enter into a contract with them that ties their PR with yours. It's your job to be a good representative. If you do something that would justify them dropping you, and the only reason you are not dropped is because they don't happen to notice you did it, then you still broke the contract - you just managed to dodge the consequences by luck and happenstance.

Maybe uwumarket doesn't give a damn what she says, in which case, that's fine; they're under no obligation to give a damn. The market will decide whether that turns out to be a profitable decision or not. But if they do give a damn, and this is something their contacts would take issue with her saying, then bringing it to their attention is not wrong. I consider this no different than warning a restaurant not to take job applications from a waitress I've overheard boasting about how she spits in customer's food.

Personally, I'd solve this by simply having every company give a very explicit set of public guidelines for its partners, so there is no ambiguity and no doubt involved as to whether or not something is worth reporting. Those guidelines will always exist in some form anyway, even if only as a vague set of moral principles in the CEO's head, so having them be clear and obvious is simply a public service. Unless you want to be Twitch or Youtube and purposefully obfuscate your CoC to keep your partners in constant fear of judgement. In a perfect world, no company would ever partner with someone whose conduct they disapproved of, but in the absence of a magical PR department that gives a damn and does its due diligence, public outcry is an acceptable substitute.

tl;dr; All that'll happening to Gumpai if she gets dropped is that she broke the contract she voluntarily entered into, and earned the consequences for it. In other words; don't shit where you eat.
Proctor, please! Dying on retarded hills is my entertainment!

And platforms keep CoC somewhat vague for one simple reason: being able to ban in case of malicious compliance, instead of adjusting rules every day.
 

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