General Thread v3: The Hexagone

[Salado]

Don’t think it’s an invaders reveal, but I’d love to be wrong.

Pretty sure it’s pippa in the middle, Uruka top right, Airi bottom right, and jelly bottom left. No guesses for the other 2.

I think is: Jelly and Pico in the bottom left, Pippa in the center, Tenma bottom right and Uruka top right. Top left I've not clue.

 

[Trap Supremacy]

DOOBY UPDATE:
Yesterday and the stream the day before have been pretty fruitful tests for Doob. She realized at least that her current internet issues seem to be falling into a consistent pattern (no issues for 30 minutes, stuttering for a bit longer, then no issues for 30 minutes again). The only time the internet properly let up was about 2 hours into the stream when after mentioned that she might be uniroincally getting DDOS'd the stuttering just straight up stopped happening for another 45 mins to an hour.

As such, no stream tonight, but she's gonna test privately to see if the issue may be a modem problem, and if it isn't she'll do another public stream tomorrow.
My personal suspicion is that her ISP is intentionally throttling her network - the way she described it (I have 60mbps when I'm not streaming but when I do stream it goes down to like 4) is a perfect example of ISP throttling. But of course, ISPs are bastards and won't admit fault unless the customer does everything they can to prove it isn't a problem on their side.

I guess we'll just have to see how things go moving forward. Dooby seems to be starting slow, which honestly I can appreciate, since getting into a groove and getting everything set up is really important to being able to actually stream and make a living off of it. And she can't exactly call herself a consultant if she can't figure out what's wrong with her own set up.

Dooby update OVER!

 

[Sky Shouter]

QUALITY content from Tenma

 

[frz]

I find it curious none of the retarded twitter slacktivists has tried to cancel Holomems for playing the game with the AI generated voices. Specially VAs in the vtuber community.

Because there is no actual any cancel "efforts" going on at all? Noone in the west is being cancelled for playing it, much less the east.

You guys are mind broken by the hogwarts legacy shit and the trans shitter who are toxic anywhere.
But the VAs community in a nutshell are consist of a bunch of pushover weebs who can't bully anyone for shit.
"Uhmm.. i hope.... maybe... don't do it next time.. or something? Idk it's your game... Maybe? I thin...k ... not doing.... it ... would ... be good?" is the best they can do.



This was the tweet that you guys decided to paint as cancel effort. But it isn't at all, it's really was just a suggestion
The person herself streamed the game and uploaded an edited video of it, and somehow ironmouse infiltrated the lobby.



I also like how lilypichu's vtuber model get worse/more specialized with every new version. I might do a write up on her soon. It won't be in a positive light though

 

[Scoots]

Don’t think it’s an invaders reveal, but I’d love to be wrong.

Pretty sure it’s pippa in the middle, Uruka top right, Airi bottom right, and jelly bottom left. No guesses for the other 2.

Top left looks like Clara to me seems like a pose she'd make

 

[Todd's Strongest Howard]

probably pussied out because they know its a nothingburger at the end of the day?

then again this is western VAs and twitch whores we are talking about they cant think for shit

Let them complain. When they say that someone could do free VA work for small creators, ask them where their contribution is. Why would they suggest a solution they wouldn't take part in? It's someone elses responsibility to do pro bono work?

It's not a cancel effort but it is fucking condescending. If they wanted to use human VAs they would've already cast some, concern-trolling like this is a manipulative tactic used to push unreasonable criticism without looking like an aggressor.

It's the same kind of thing the Nijisisters were doing with the boycotts a while ago. They knew if they came in all-guns-blazing when replying to that one Rosemi tweet calling her a genocidal racist in all-caps she would've just ignored them and went about her day; so they instead framed it as "hey um Rosemi, I'm a big fan but you should know there's a boycott right now, I hope you reconsider!" as an attempt to guilt-trip her into taking it seriously.

If you want to make a criticism, just make it, so it can stand on its own and people can decide for themselves if you have a point or not. Sucking up to those involved with especially flowery language comes off as disingenuous.

I would bet money she's framing it as "We'd love to help*" and the * comes out as Once you pay us after the fact one way or another.

If you're going to offer to replace stock/AI voice work just be direct about it. Ideally be private about it as well, it's only demanding attention to do it publicly and can easily be seen as you trying to leverage public opinion to force action. You going to be that guy that turned down lilypichu? Good luck selling anything then once the narrative is turned against you. Doesn't matter what the truth is, people will invent their own and force everyone else to accept it. Just look at us here! Me in particular. I'll say any shit with the least amount of justification.

 

[Hff201]

This was the tweet that you guys decided to paint as cancel effort. But it isn't at all, it's really was just a suggestion

It's not a cancel effort but it is fucking condescending. If they wanted to use human VAs they would've already cast some, concern-trolling like this is a manipulative tactic used to push unreasonable criticism without looking like an aggressor.

It's the same kind of thing the Nijisisters were doing with the boycotts a while ago. They knew if they came in all-guns-blazing when replying to that one Rosemi tweet calling her a genocidal racist in all-caps she would've just ignored them and went about her day; so they instead framed it as "hey um Rosemi, I'm a big fan but you should know there's a boycott right now, I hope you reconsider!" as an attempt to guilt-trip her into taking it seriously.

If you want to make a criticism, just make it, so it can stand on its own and people can decide for themselves if you have a point or not. Sucking up to those involved with especially flowery language comes off as disingenuous.

 

[Sankisei]

Because there is no actual any cancel "efforts" going on at all? Noone in the west is being cancelled for playing it, much less the east.

You guys are mind broken by the hogwarts legacy shit and the trans shitter who are toxic anywhere.
But the VAs community in a nutshell are consist of a bunch of pushover weebs who can't bully anyone for shit.
"Uhmm.. i hope.... maybe... don't do it next time.. or something? Idk it's your game... Maybe? I thin...k ... not doing.... it ... would ... be good?" is the best they can do.



This was the tweet that you guys decided to paint as cancel effort. But it isn't at all, it's really was just a suggestion
The person herself streamed the game and uploaded an edited video of it, and somehow ironmouse infiltrated the lobby.



I also like how lilypichu's vtuber model get worse/more specialized with every new version. I might do a write up on her soon. It won't be in a positive light though

Actually people were focusing on Cyyu opinion

Aside from that i would want to look at that Lilypichu write up
She suffers from the model frenzy syndrome and she isnt even crippled to excuse her still getting new models

 

[roktofferson]

Actually people were focusing on Cyyu opinion

Aside from that i would want to look at that Lilypichu write up
She suffers from the model frenzy syndrome and she isnt even crippled to excuse her still getting new models

god i can't wait for all the western VAs to be replaced with AI.

 

[Horo7618]

god i can't wait for all the western VAs to be replaced with AI.

Unfortunately, the AI will be trained using western VAs, so it won't be any better......

 

[closedblas]

So are we playing chicken around who brings up full AI vtubers?

 

[Security]

Unfortunately, the AI will be trained using western VAs, so it won't be any better......

Prompt: Give me [ENGLISH VA'S] voice but make it sound like they're actually good at it.

 

[Scoots]

Actually people were focusing on Cyyu opinion

Aside from that i would want to look at that Lilypichu write up
She suffers from the model frenzy syndrome and she isnt even crippled to excuse her still getting new models

I can respect this he ain't sperging at anyone else about playing it he's just exercising his right to not plus I can see any va playing it getting them in hot water with the VA's who WILL cancel you over garbage like this unlike CyYu and Monarch who keep their noses out of drama like that and do their own things

Grape for hurricane charity

 

[USS IOWA]

Oh that's rich coming from you Bint, Get the fuck outta here.

 

[Nenélove]

So are we playing chicken around who brings up full AI vtubers?

I doubt that will ever work tbh, since a good chunk of the market seems to only care because they have delusions of one day fucking the vtuber in question or using said vtuber as their only means of human interaction.

 

[Panopticon]

Tetel is streaming Doom Eternal.

 

[Johnny Jambalaya]

So are we playing chicken around who brings up full AI vtubers?

Perhaps there was a genius among us and we didn't even realize it.

I'm building a floating window style app/program for a Copilot/4o/Project Astra tier AI vtuber with human-level latency and long-term memory. The plan is for something exactly like Samantha in the movie Her, but with significantly less censorship. I'm working on making the flirtatiousness/ditziness/interests/kayfabe of the model all very customizable, but I was also thinking that as an MVP I could just copy the voice/personality of an existing vtuber as much as possible. The business model is going to be a monthly subscription with add-ons for new outfit reveals, "collabing" with others' vtubers, more interaction beyond daily 1h streams, but of course open to changing that. Unfortunately I'm pretty sure she won't be able to play any games. What do you guys think/would you have any vtubers you'd like to suggest for me to clone? I'm only moderately familiar with big corpo vtubers and will probably pick an EN (though the model is multilingual with audio as well, so JP is fine too). Looking forward especially to comments from diehards with oneitis.

 

[Hff201]

So are we playing chicken around who brings up full AI vtubers?

I doubt that will ever work tbh, since a good chunk of the market seems to only care because they have delusions of one day fucking the vtuber in question or using said vtuber as their only means of human interaction.

It's also very limited in scope with current AI tech since certain interactions will always be overrepresented in the source data making it predictable, in a similar fashion to AI artwork leaning toward specific art styles, and ChatGPT outputs leaning toward certain phrases and expressions.

Neuro-sama is popular as a novelty, since as of right now it's the only AI VTuber that actually got off the ground. If other AI VTubers get enough backing to find more than ten viewers the novelty would wear off very quickly.

 

[Nenélove]

It's also very limited in scope with current AI tech since certain interactions will always be overrepresented in the source data making it predictable, in a similar fashion to AI artwork leaning toward specific art styles, and ChatGPT outputs leaning toward certain phrases and expressions.

Neuro-sama is popular as a novelty, since as of right now it's the only AI VTuber that actually got off the ground. If other AI VTubers get enough backing to find more than ten viewers the novelty would wear off very quickly.

It's always been a gimmick, idk why people think the market would be able to stomach 50 AI chatbots who say random shit with nobody to collab with and leech viewers off of to stay relevant. Maybe if the things had actual personalities, but I think AI is gonna have to stumble into uncanny valley territory when it comes to imitating humans for a while, we're just that good as sussing out things that look human but aren't and our brains despise non-humans attempting to copy us (insert ancient aliens conspiracy here)

 

[Not-Username]

It's also very limited in scope with current AI tech since certain interactions will always be overrepresented in the source data making it predictable, in a similar fashion to AI artwork leaning toward specific art styles, and ChatGPT outputs leaning toward certain phrases and expressions.

Neuro-sama is popular as a novelty, since as of right now it's the only AI VTuber that actually got off the ground. If other AI VTubers get enough backing to find more than ten viewers the novelty would wear off very quickly.

Neuro is also a special case. Without vedal actively being present and the live viewing of her evolution it wouldn't be nearly as popular