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General Thread v3: The Hexagone

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MagicHammer

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40K pre-debut is a bit crazy, but not excessively so when you consider ads + watchalongs + established V4Mirai fanbase + broader Brave/corpo fanbase.
I think it is crazy when you compare it to the actual 'established fanbase' of V4Mirai, whom people very much tend to overestimate thanks to their inflated sub counts. Most of them are low 3views who gained most of their subs through the same, though less egregious, advertising tactics. This new gen are close to half of what a HoloEN talent might get predebut, despite being in an agency that historically pulls over ten times less CCV than HoloEN. Compared to other small corpos with similar views, it's lunacy.

And to dispel this is some kind of Brave/V4Mirai groundswell support, the cheerleader hyena has had about 550k video views on YouTube in 4 days while simultaneously gaining less than 2000 followers on Twitter and struggled to rack up over 100 votes on a poll she put out yesterday. These ain't invested Vtuber fans that are subscribing, it's kids and tourists brought in by shotgun marketing that are highly unlikely to stick around (Or it could just be bots).

Also, the gen is closing in on 1.5 million views across their channels predebut. With YouTube charging a potential average of $2000 per 100,000 views, Brave may be forking out somewhere in the range of $30,000 just on these ads, which to me is crazy, but to Brave is likely chump change. They obviously doesn't care about return on investment and appear to be aiming for nothing less than COMPLETE GLOBAL SATURATION.

Maybe the next gen in 4-5 months time will have 80k subs predebut? How much money can they waste? How much to fake it til you make it?
 

La+ de Central Norte

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Joined:  Apr 23, 2023
I think it is crazy when you compare it to the actual 'established fanbase' of V4Mirai, whom people very much tend to overestimate thanks to their inflated sub counts. Most of them are low 3views who gained most of their subs through the same, though less egregious, advertising tactics. This new gen are close to half of what a HoloEN talent might get predebut, despite being in an agency that historically pulls over ten times less CCV than HoloEN. Compared to other small corpos with similar views, it's lunacy.

And to dispel this is some kind of Brave/V4Mirai groundswell support, the cheerleader hyena has had about 550k video views on YouTube in 4 days while simultaneously gaining less than 2000 followers on Twitter and struggled to rack up over 100 votes on a poll she put out yesterday. These ain't invested Vtuber fans that are subscribing, it's kids and tourists brought in by shotgun marketing that are highly unlikely to stick around (Or it could just be bots).

Also, the gen is closing in on 1.5 million views across their channels predebut. With YouTube charging a potential average of $2000 per 100,000 views, Brave may be forking out somewhere in the range of $30,000 just on these ads, which to me is crazy, but to Brave is likely chump change. They obviously doesn't care about return on investment and appear to be aiming for nothing less than COMPLETE GLOBAL SATURATION.

Maybe the next gen in 4-5 months time will have 80k subs predebut? How much money can they waste? How much to fake it til you make it?
:BijouBijou:(y)
 

Scoots

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Uruka suicides to get out of touching grass
 

John Vtuber👁️

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Joined:  Oct 24, 2022
I think it is crazy when you compare it to the actual 'established fanbase' of V4Mirai, whom people very much tend to overestimate thanks to their inflated sub counts. Most of them are low 3views who gained most of their subs through the same, though less egregious, advertising tactics. This new gen are close to half of what a HoloEN talent might get predebut, despite being in an agency that historically pulls over ten times less CCV than HoloEN. Compared to other small corpos with similar views, it's lunacy.

And to dispel this is some kind of Brave/V4Mirai groundswell support, the cheerleader hyena has had about 550k video views on YouTube in 4 days while simultaneously gaining less than 2000 followers on Twitter and struggled to rack up over 100 votes on a poll she put out yesterday. These ain't invested Vtuber fans that are subscribing, it's kids and tourists brought in by shotgun marketing that are highly unlikely to stick around (Or it could just be bots).

Also, the gen is closing in on 1.5 million views across their channels predebut. With YouTube charging a potential average of $2000 per 100,000 views, Brave may be forking out somewhere in the range of $30,000 just on these ads, which to me is crazy, but to Brave is likely chump change. They obviously doesn't care about return on investment and appear to be aiming for nothing less than COMPLETE GLOBAL SATURATION.

Maybe the next gen in 4-5 months time will have 80k subs predebut? How much money can they waste? How much to fake it til you make it?

how long will brave's infinite bank account keep bankrolling ads post-debut? and how long will it take for viewers to crater during normal streams, and one of the talents has a numberfriend breakdown over it? will the girls study the game of content creation and, well, create compelling content, or will they coast on branding with regular livestreaming like so many before them?

stay tuned during these next several months for all of this and more, I am only invested because the Hyena cheerleader keeps putting the same ad multiple times in the same multi-hour long streams I watch in the background, I can practically hear it in my sleep. perhaps brave is banking on her being the "favorite"?
 

The Proctor

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Enjoy the new sponsored segment. It was bought by @kanpainiggi and I hope it successfully earns him the eternal ire of his fat and vulnerable kamioshi.
 

El Rrata

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Enjoy the new sponsored segment. It was bought by @kanpainiggi and I hope it successfully earns him the eternal ire of his fat and vulnerable kamioshi.
It's already a 500% improvement over the last one.
 

kingcaid

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Khubi is streaming Deponia today. Shes back in the wagie cagie so her stream schedule is up in the air for the time being. She did mention that she might stream OSRS early tomorrow.
 

Cubanodun

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The Proctor

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John Vtuber👁️

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kanpainiggi

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Aquatic Novellite

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Enjoy the new sponsored segment. It was bought by @kanpainiggi and I hope it successfully earns him the eternal ire of his fat and vulnerable kamioshi.
@kanpainiggi, not enough dinosaurs in the text.

How can you claim to love your oshi if you don't even mention dinosaurs when shilling her?
 

The Proctor

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>brown
>women
No and no, better luck next time.

I disclaim responsibility for what happens to you after this statement.
 

Porean

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Bronze

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They got Doki and Michi for watchalong

Tenma's playing Hi Fi Rush on twitch
 

Egg the Boiled

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Are women no longer taught how to keep themselves safe at a bar?
Even if they are, I can easily see them thinking "We're all vtubers! We're all friends! No one would do anything bad!" Which is retarded but believable.
How many people find new vtubers to watch on twitter, anyway?
Because she's closing that option for herself, pretty sure the amount of people who find new vtubers to watch on bluesky is around 0.7.
Twitter followers rarely translate to actual viewership.
 

smartestkidontheshortbus

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They got Doki and Michi for watchalong

Tenma's playing Hi Fi Rush on twitch

Those two cost them more than the rest in that image.
 

Sh4gg1

yeah...
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Vivi's watchalong for Sajam Slam cheering for Team Shine.

Meimi singing September 21 times in 20 minutes.

Arya's APEX
 
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