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46gumi

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Somethingsomething twitter kids get offended at everything everytime
I guess good on kyo for standing on his ground for now but I hope he understands the kind of crowds he's attracting based on that attitude and his past remarks alone

He apparently apologized on a recent Twitch stream so eh

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Also saw this floating around, memelords here might get a lot of mileage out of this

 

Abomination

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Ok fags, since you guys liked my last article breakdown here's one of ducky's originals I autistically went over for you to waste your time on:


"VTubers and lore go hand and hand. Some build entire universes around their model’s story. Others just leave it as a short aside. But there’s no doubt storytelling is a critical part of the medium, giving an extra leg to the designs fans fawn over."
Wouldn't really call it "critical" beyond the scope of a cheap marketing trick but okay, some autistic people do actually get way too into it so I guess it does help pander to morons.

"It’s only become more elaborate in 2023 too. Lore videos are commonplace at VTuber debuts."
Yeah and they've become so commonplace that people have long since gotten tired of the bullshit and begun despising them wherever they appear. The best ones are short and sweet and don't involve much amateur chuuni storytelling, the only thing people like about these is the visuals and sometimes marginally funny writing, the ones which try to be super serious are universally trashy.

"But what happens outside of the big reveals and they’re just sitting there streaming games? How can stories be weaved into these mundane events?

“VTuber agencies do not tend to prioritize fictional storytelling all that much,” Lucius Merryweather mused. “Many have commented on this disconnect between VTuber lore. Why is this VTuber’s lore about them being a powerful mythical god, when they just play Apex?"

Hmmmm 🤔, it's almost like lore is not designed to matter and only serves as retard bait and disposable marketing? Some vtubers DO play into it but most are too lazy and/or different from their characters to keep it up long-term.

"“My opinion is that this disconnect is fun. It’s fun to watch a powerful mythical god play Apex Legends and talk about anime.”"
Their character honestly only plays a very small role in the experience, most vtubers are popular because of their actual personality, abilities, and stage persona, not some ridiculous disguise created by a boardroom of suits. This article is confounding lore with kayfabe; lore is simply flavour text, most people care about the persona the vtuber creates through their content creation journey and how they conduct themselves on stream, that persona can be influenced by the lore but is rarely if ever beholden to it, you can give a vtuber the bestest lore written by a pro writer and they could still be a complete bore if they don't actually make it their own and aren't genuinely good entertainers.

"Despite that enjoyable uncoupling, VTubing’s top loremaster wants to take storytelling in the virtual space even further. That was ultimately the inspiration behind his new project AstraLine.

“AstraLine is an agency with a focus on story events,” he continued. “An evolving storyline with villains, world-building, with every member getting their chance to shine both in their own storylines, and appearing in others storylines.”"

Holy corpospeak, bro they're just gonna be like everyone else fucking chill, this sounds like one of those hyperbolic pitches that only works on morons that have no idea what the product even IS.

"The five of them combined ⁠— given Lumi’s musical and cosplay lean, and Merry’s background in creative writing ⁠— bring a whole new skill set to VTuber storytelling. And if you chat to any one of them, they’re keen to break the rules and redefine what it means to be a virtual star.
"Vtuber storytelling" jesus talk about delusions of grandeur... I don't think creating stupid fanfics for your generic catboy model is gonna "REDEFINE VTUBING!", if you wanna make well fleshed-out characters and a compelling narrative then just write a book.

"“The average VTuber follower can boil what a VTuber is to a quick sentence or two ⁠— and that’s just not enough for us,” Nick Nocturne told Dexerto."
"Nick Nocturne" :SelenHAHAhere:Niji tier name right there boys, well done. Also how is lore going to change the fact that vtubers are online content creators who use virtual avatars to represent themselves? I don't think there's any part of that definition that can really be altered by merryfag and his band of nobodies, you ain't 2018 Nijisanji bro, sit down.

"“We’re about what can be done that breaks those run-of-the-mill expectations, doing new things with the medium and platforms, telling stories beyond just lore videos on debut.”"
So what Niji's Mayuzumi Kai and Holo's Hachaama already did? Make videos about the lore and play the part in extended multimedia stories? This isn't a new thing and it isn't going to revolutionize anything.

"Fredrik and Nick are big assets in that regard. The two have a combined following of two million subscribers on YouTube from this long-form timeless content. But streaming presents a new medium to share that craft, and weave new stories they couldn’t before.

“I came to terms with the intuition that I was missing a great opportunity to expand my abilities of content coverage and exploration by not streaming,” Nick admitted. “The few moments I [streamed] on YouTube for my channel, Night Mind, showed me there was definite value in it.”"

I don't think streaming benefits neither merry nor knudsen. Merry made VA'd versions of shitty webcomics in order to bait weebs and then latched onto whatever was popular when his e-fame began to wane (sadly that was vtubing). Knudsen made highly polished, GOOD, longform youtube documentaries. As I have said before, I fucking despise it when good youtubers begin streaming or doing podcasts, you trade in 1 great video every few months for a spam of shitty streams where the person just badly discusses a topic because they have no script or audiovisual accompaniment or they just become a generic streamer playing FOTM games. Knudsen has objectively gotten WORSE, and his content as a vtuber is hot garbage compared to his old videos.

"“Historically, I’ve never found success doing what other people are doing,” Fredrik added. “AstraLine shares a lot of the same language and conventions of a typical VTubing agency, but our roster allows us to do things very differently.

“Even as a totally indie VTuber, I was rather unique in my content in the way I would dive into and share peculiar topics that interested me. But in this new context, I think we’ll stand out even more. We’ll discover niches that people didn’t even know existed by creating the content that we want to see but nobody is making.”"

What the fuck does this even mean?!? How are you doing ANYTHING differently? You're just a shittier, more obscure vshojo; a group of e-friend creators that got together to pretend to be a real agency. "Creating the content that we want to see but nobody is making" I feel like i'm in the launch conference for the new iphone ngl.

""Nick spoke at length about this “unfiction” element that exists in VTubing. There’s already a suspension of disbelief and reality built into the virtual world via the models streamers use. Why not take that a bit further?

There are ways to build these stories across platforms, and ultimately across mediums. It brings the viewers right into the action ⁠— you’re not just watching along, but immersed in the universe and encouraged to interact. You can explore niche topics and tropes with intrigue and curiosity. And while if you dig you can read between the lines, where’s the fun in that?""

So many words just to say "Kayfabe is fun", also this fucking journo HATES idolshit when Holo does it but now he's fellating this crap when these normie femboys sell it? Talk about le irony.

"AstraLine is a way to fully utilize the medium’s potential in that regard and give fans something they didn’t know they wanted.

“[There was] a sincere feeling of a need to present VTubers who are delivering more than just performances for streams and a few recorded audio works,” he continued.

“We want our viewers [to be] inspired to… have niche interests and love them freely. The very idea of what we can do to assist the community in discovering what they can find in themselves, I think, compels us just as strongly, if not more, than the spirit of sheer entertainment or comfort.”"

Absolute meaningless corpospeak.

“AstraLine talent have the unique ability to work alongside our in-house art talent, and create projects with them, rather than being dependent on commissioning outside creators.”
I didn't know you needed special abilities to tell "RedHeartBlackFur#666" in the company discord to stop jacking it to furry porn and finish the fucking MV but I guess these guys are specially qualified G.I.s with training in dealing with degeneracy.

"The studio is already known for its mega-popular Webtoon comics and existing VTuber lore projects for VShojo, NIJISANJI, and more. But they have hired more managers and staff to give AstraLine the tools to succeed in its own world-building mission."
Nice to know that Hololive is now known as "more", fuck you too ducky. "World-building" implies some kind of lengthy, story-expanding process, not just "Oh here's le SUPER RULE OF COOL (but incredibly generic) story about how this rando demon guy came to be that nobody will even remember".

"“It is, to my knowledge, the first time an art studio itself has launched a VTuber agency! And all of our art team is incredibly excited to work alongside VTubers, whose success will also bring many benefits to our artists."
That success is not guaranteed my guy, IF they succeed, they MAY make the artists more popular or known, those are a lot of BIG maybes.

“You see many VTuber groups and you can feel the warmth from them so we wanted something like that too. A family.”
I love my Niji- I mean, Astraline Family!
""And, as Nick Nocturne put it: “What’s not exciting about a group of diverse creators who bring new things to the table instead of just filling a role and playing some games for a while?”"
Yeheah boyssss, we wuz differenz n' sheit, not like those BORING, OPPRESSIVE, OUTDATED nips! My nigga merry be changin' this crib! He settin' new rulez in da industry! Really...? How many fucking times are we gonna have people blabbing on and on about "we're gonna change everythinngggg!!!1", last time I checked people who actually shake things up don't feel the need to brag about it like they're trying to sell you a happy meal.

"Yes, they’re all tied to the eccentric Danish dog in some way. They were handpicked to join this project, nearly a year in the making, for a reason.

“He has been a close friend for the majority of my professional career, and we’ve leaned on each other frequently,” Fredrik stated. “Every time I’ve worked on something with him, it’s been an absolute joy.""

Nepotism at its finest! Surely mixing friends and business won't go terribly wrong when money's on the line and everyone begins to show their true colors!

"“Personally I never felt like I would fit into any idol group and I’ve hovered from friend group to friend group. The topics I talk about are sometimes quite niche. To be offered a place in a group where I could just continue being myself, build on top of that, being given more chances to do cool things, and hang out with my friends felt amazing.”"
Talent Freedom Family>>>>>CORPO IDOLSHIT, who needs rules or managers when you're all buds and GET each other, bros who really get that shit don't need no reminder to stream often!

"“We get to enjoy this beautiful genre of entertainment with more friends we trust and vibe with. And of course, now we’re halfway to filling up an Among Us lobby,” he laughed."
:gunpeko:

"“And since our managers all have VTuber avatars themselves,"
Oh so you DO have managers! Why do they need avatars though? Are these actual payrolled guys in an office in Copenhagen or some shit or just merry's buds on discord making spreadsheets?

In conclusion: Fuck Lore, Fuck Ducky and Fucky Merryfaggot.
Well said. The self-felating means a lot coming from the fag who was crying on Twitter and talking about quitting as a vtuber shortly after his group's launch.

I have no idea what their idea of storytelling is going to be in regards to them being vtubers, but I have no interest. I could not care any less about Fredrick's lore of being in some gay romance with historical figures or whatever the fuck was in his cringe lore video while they're playing Among Us or whatever.

“We want our viewers [to be] inspired to… have niche interests and love them freely. The very idea of what we can do to assist the community in discovering what they can find in themselves, I think, compels us just as strongly, if not more, than the spirit of sheer entertainment or comfort.”"
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Lol, lmao.
 

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Well said. The self-felating means a lot coming from the fag who was crying on Twitter and talking about quitting as a vtuber shortly after his group's launch.

I have no idea what their idea of storytelling is going to be in regards to them being vtubers, but I have no interest. I could not care any less about Fredrick's lore of being in some gay romance with historical figures or whatever the fuck was in his cringe lore video while they're playing Among Us or whatever.


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Lol, lmao.
It makes me mad because he just sounds so pretentious. Lore isn't a new thing, and it isn't particularly important or liked by anyone except tards who make powerlevel charts or some shit. Merry is basically taking what the industry leaders have had as a funny little entreé to debuts for YEARS and that most people just skip and ignore or forget about in 10 seconds before diving into what they REALLY care for: The Talent; and he's selling it like he has re-invented the wheel but with crack cocaine and hookers. Like anyone gives a shit about all of this chest-beating bullshit and silicon valley style posturing about "innovation" and "bold new directions".
I HAAAATEEEE newcomers who act cocky, that's why I have given Aviel so much shit before. If you're gonna talk about things like you're in the game then at least have the decency to slog through the mud and get as filthy as everyone else before you start yapping.

It makes me mad that knudsen has been groomed by this cabal of mental defectives and twitter weirdos and he's gonna end up putting a bullet through his brain when the dick-chopping doesn't fix his crippling mental issues.
 

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Insert obligatory gura time loop comment.


Note that these people are not koreans. They are koreaboos. They are getting offended on behalf of koreans without any prompt from actual koreans.

Koreans simply do not use the term white man/caucasian/cis scum. These are all western tumblerette terms. East asian/sea niggs refer to all (inferior) non-yellow races as foreigners/westerners.:smugpipi:

Watch this

Actual Koreans talking about it
I had a good laugh :selenpointandlaugh:

They hate this logic because it's accepting the idea that Koreans are more likely to do plastic sugery than any other group will also accept the fact that certain groups are more likely to participate in:
Jews:usury
Blacks:violence
LGBT:child abuse
etc

moderates, liberals and leftists that participate in blank slatism are socially conditioned to ignore in-group, especially ethnic, preference.
 

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That's actually the deep lore on how Shiina and Airi know each other. 10+ years ago in their youth, they both ended up auditioning for the same group in the same tryout. They befriended each other there, so when they happened to join the same vTuber company 10 years later there was a moment for both of them remembering that.
So all the Phase Connect talents we have room-mate photos of are pretty, and there's at least three that were in the running to be kpop idols.

Pretty sure this is Sakana:
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Minor pon in the Life Like a Live waiting room, it got striked down by youtube, another one is up though
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Clip tax:
Ui mama trying to 720doxXx720 (/s btw) her trashbag viewers


Can't wait to post a clip about Enna who can't wait to tell her aloupeeps about a real drama folding next to her while waiting at the train station
 

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Speaking of Nijifans, here's a bunch of them upset no one is sucking off Vox for making a "movie".

I dislike drama grifters but more so on the people who act like their muh fave is doing the world a favor by making something that isn't touched by the mainstream, "wow look at our SUPERIOR oshi yours could never " as if that would encourage people to actually watch its content.
the phrase comic-style movie is going to make me laugh to my grave though but sure, the only chuba who made a whole new breakthrough in vtubing amirite

He apparently apologized on a recent Twitch stream so eh

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Just like clockwork! :SelenHAHAhere:
 

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With the massive homosexuality of the recent lore discussion, I want to clarify something I said about enjoying the 'story' of vtubers months ago in relation to magni/vesper graduating and why I care less about them as indies: "Just as a general feel, I like how Holo gives people goals and events to work towards. Yeah Vesper doesn’t care about singing and dancing in a concert, but having that goal to work towards gives the entire persona a ‘story’ of sorts. Heck, it’s like watching a tv series with an over arching story vs watching an episodic series."
Clarification and emphasis: When I was talking about 'story' in here, I mean the personal story of the human behind the character, NOT the character lore. I don't care all that much about 'Tempus' going on 'an adventure', but I do care about people travelling across the country to meet up for off-collabs. Yeah they can use the lore to frame that event, but the cool part is the personal IRL story, not the character story.
 

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As much as I like Eilene this is pretty pathetic tbh considering how she treated Moe and essentially ghosted her. Also I recall Shiori vague tweeting about something the other day which might be related to this since it's deleted, good thing it's still archived in a discord I'm lurking in.

shiorieilene.jpg
 

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Good on him for not apologizing at least. Now run the stats on who likes fried chicken the most.
Me. People who don't like fried chicken aren't human.

>terfsdie
>palestine flag

They're not sending their best.
I remember some Holofans on twitter who has rainbow flags laughing at Faunas mistake and they deleted it when the VOD got deleted. I wonder what made Niji fans different from Holo fans?
Nothing, tbh. Look in the right places, and you find people pearl clutching over Kiara's nigga and Calli's cultural appropriation just fine.
With the massive homosexuality of the recent lore discussion, I want to clarify something I said about enjoying the 'story' of vtubers months ago in relation to magni/vesper graduating and why I care less about them as indies: "Just as a general feel, I like how Holo gives people goals and events to work towards. Yeah Vesper doesn’t care about singing and dancing in a concert, but having that goal to work towards gives the entire persona a ‘story’ of sorts. Heck, it’s like watching a tv series with an over arching story vs watching an episodic series."
Clarification and emphasis: When I was talking about 'story' in here, I mean the personal story of the human behind the character, NOT the character lore. I don't care all that much about 'Tempus' going on 'an adventure', but I do care about people travelling across the country to meet up for off-collabs. Yeah they can use the lore to frame that event, but the cool part is the personal IRL story, not the character story.
Literally the Idol's journey that motivates the Japanese Idol fanbase, btw.
 

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So all the Phase Connect talents we have room-mate photos of are pretty, and there's at least three that were in the running to be kpop idols.

Pretty sure this is Sakana:
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Why do you think he sponsors their gym memberships? Out of the goodness of his heart? :icanfixher:, but unironically.
 

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As much as I like Eilene this is pretty pathetic tbh considering how she treated Moe and essentially ghosted her. Also I recall Shiori vague tweeting about something the other day which might be related to this since it's deleted, good thing it's still archived in a discord I'm lurking in.

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That shiori tweet was available for 12 hours and it was still up when gaotye posted. You linked the exact same tweet as our resident chink did. She just deleted it right now.

/here/ moment?
 

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/here/ moment. Im now worry about proctor health if he ended up getting too much of an ego boost.
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Shiori, if you're reading this, I was confused because I thought people were talking about the chinchilla and was like, "Who the heck is this? This isn't the chinchilla". Also, tell IRyS I love her.
 

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That shiori tweet was available for 12 hours and it was still up when gaotye posted. You linked the exact same tweet as our resident chink did. She just deleted it right now.

/here/ moment?
Thankfully someone archived it
 

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That shiori tweet was available for 12 hours and it was still up when gaotye posted. You linked the exact same tweet as our resident chink did. She just deleted it right now.

/here/ moment?
shiori if you're here you are not fat you are full of love! :sanasmile:
also tell kronii i love her and drag her to a collab pls and thnx. :sanasmile:
 

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I remember some Holofans on twitter who has rainbow flags laughing at Faunas mistake and they deleted it when the VOD got deleted. I wonder what made Niji fans different from Holo fans?

An extra chromosome.

I hate to defend goyslop "news" personalities, but I don't know why these people expect channels with a mostly straight male demographic to care that a dude who's primarily known for helping homosexuals and Chinese women get off has made a film.

Isn't it more like a voice acted comic? No one applauds for doing line reads over the storyboard, acting like this is particularly impressive is some huge cope. It's an undertaking sure but it's no fucking movie.

This woman hands you her card in the club and starts talking about Ark what do?


Ask how you deal with the monotony of the early game progression and the struggle of setting up some of the semi-automatically generating base resources, and if it's better to just set up resource camps for particular materials or just do a mass haul run for materials and stockpile them. While she's explaining I'd see if I could flag down someone for some drinks (something mid price range) and if she exhausts that topic before they arrive, I would explain that I'd never gotten far enough to start any kind of serious taming efforts and I've not really managed to see the real meat of the game beyond the earliest stages having dropped off before metal production could really get a foothold, and if that was just me being too resistant to wandering far from base looking for shit and trying my luck or if there's some secret to becoming a dinomaster badass quick and easy to feed the wheels of progress. I figure I could probably push on the topic enough to keep it running for a long time if she's really enthusiastic, but if it taps out or she looks to change topic to something else I'll ask if she's ever played Valheim and how she feels about it if so.

The real challenge would be trying to be a decent man and not stare directly at her tits all night. If nothing else, I'm leaving with contact info and a server name because if I don't manage to clap cheeks at least I have someone to play autism games with.
 

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That shiori tweet was available for 12 hours and it was still up when gaotye posted. You linked the exact same tweet as our resident chink did. She just deleted it right now.

/here/ moment?

I wouldn't be surprised either if she just gave it to her just to completely cut ties with Eilene's group so she can completely move on since she's in a much better environment now.

As a reminder how bad it was

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Also I found it pretty funny that this was one of the people who replied. Can't seem to recall them ever collabing though

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:SelenHAHAhere:

If she deletes this after posting then it truly is a /here/ moment
 
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