General Thread v2: Enhanced Segregation Techniques!

[God's Strongest Dragoon]

Phase still exists and operational because of Fishman's autistic (and delusional) desire to have his own idol company and having a real experience running business. He has a goal he truly desires, and he is putting honest effort into achieving it, even going as far as admitting that he sucks at it and hiring competent people to fix his shortcomings. More or less every other small corpo that started out or is formed right now only has one goal - make money. You can't build identity on it, you are only going to acquire random people because you honestly don't care who you hire, and it will rot and die because you couldn't be assed to continue splurging money on it.

It also helps that Fish has a history in business. So even though he's chasing an autistic desire to have his own idol company (so he can eventually clone Marine), he's actually plotted his course for his ship instead of wandering around aimlessly in the sea like a lot of the other small corps. The fact that he was willing to keep the past few batches in the basement for so long is an example of his methodical approach instead of just firing them out of the cannon once they're chosen.

PRISM Died the day they were bought out by Sony because the latter suffers "HOW DO I MANAGE THESE BAKA GAIJINS" Syndrome

It's really hilarious that SIE moved their headquarters to America yet they have no idea what they're doing when it comes to gaijins.

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Clip Tax: Uruka and horse testicles, that is all

 

[Scoots]

Rita's response (she's optimistic)

 

[Negzana]

Apparently, from reading on /vt/, Memory's oshi is/was Rushia. Not surprising. We know Fish literally tried to make Airi the Marine of PC (Needless to say it failed), wouldn't be surprised if he tried to make a Rushia.

 

[Slutpuppies]

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All these items are so cute, I love unique merch. I love her, bros.

 

[Koronesuki]

Hopefully she tries networking with VCR et all still. She could boost her popularity through them if she is not blacklisted.

I don't know why she would be blacklisted. I know it was a termination, but it seemed like a fairly amicable one. Yagoo would probably write her a nice letter of recommendation if he was asked.

I kinda have a rrat regarding this. Calli once said last year when she was talking about Holo recruitment that she asked if her collabing with people was hurting their chances of getting into Holo. She was worried and not wanting to collab as much as she used to because of that. Cover told her it did not affect their chances at all, but she remained skeptical.

I was thinking that she was talking about Milky specifically in this situation. Milky may have been trying to get into Holo EN for a while and kept getting rejected, thus causing frustration for Calli. I think she said this a couple months before Advent's debut, too.

What if Cover rejected her for reasons completely unrelated and Calli is just worrying about something that has nothing to do with her?

Clip tax: EN members talk about meeting Korone in real life.

 

[Negzana]

I don't know why she would be blacklisted. I know it was a termination, but it seemed like a fairly amicable one. Yagoo would probably write her a nice letter of recommendation if he was asked.

What if Cover rejected her for reasons completely unrelated and Calli is just worrying about something that has nothing to do with her?

Clip tax: EN members talk about meeting Korone in real life.

I keep asking, what kind of retard husband would divorce her? She's nice, fit, and plays videogames for hours. She's absolutely perfect. What husband wouldn't want to play videogames with their wife for 10 hours?

 

[naganon]

Apparently, from reading on /vt/, Memory's oshi is/was Rushia. Not surprising. We know Fish literally tried to make Airi the Marine of PC (Needless to say it failed), wouldn't be surprised if he tried to make a Rushia.

Not surprising that she was a Rushia fan. Hopefully she isn't crazy enough to pull a Rushia.

 

[El Rrata]

What if Cover rejected her for reasons completely unrelated and Calli is just worrying about something that has nothing to do with her?

That is what they told her. I wasn't implying otherwise, just saying that's what she thought. Given how absurdly hard it is to get into Holo, I highly doubt someone knowing Calli would hurt them.

 

[Koronesuki]

I keep asking, what kind of retard husband would divorce her? She's nice, fit, and plays videogames for hours. She's absolutely perfect. What husband wouldn't want to play videogames with their wife for 10 hours?

You are asking the wrong person, my friend. I don't understand it either.

 

[RestlessRain]

It also helps that Fish has a history in business. So even though he's chasing an autistic desire to have his own idol company (so he can eventually clone Marine), he's actually plotted his course for his ship instead of wandering around aimlessly in the sea like a lot of the other small corps. The fact that he was willing to keep the past few batches in the basement for so long is an example of his methodical approach instead of just firing them out of the cannon once they're chosen.

When you think about it, quite a lot of stuff happens with those nine, ten months down in the basement.
- There are 1:1 collabs between every new talent and all previous talents, supervised by a manager (forgot who confirmed this in a stream). That's a lot of time and energy spent in collabs, and does explain why all the talents have such good chemistry between eachother and why there's such a low turnover rate.
- Helping design their own models. I think Phase has a really good balance between allowing talents to design their own models, within reason, and having an aesthetic balance between various character styles and archtypes.
- Creating resources for debut. It's crazy how much effort is thrown at debuts now - there needs to be multiple anime-tier (cheaper anime, but still) animated skits of the talents, singers are now at the level where they're creating their own original songs, artists make art for debut and people with experience composing stuff are helping edit the music.

 

[Zinnaha]

After her time in Hololive I just hope she doesn't return to that. Idol stuff might not be as lucrative but it's just nicer to see a person progress in singing/dancing

But the bucks will come from slinging herself to men via lewd stuff, this is why even canan is literally fucking herself in her "ASMRs" now.
Also, totally not clickbait.

 

[frz]

Phase still exists and operational because of Fishman's autistic (and delusional) desire to have his own idol company and having a real experience running business. He has a goal he truly desires, and he is putting honest effort into achieving it, even going as far as admitting that he sucks at it and hiring competent people to fix his shortcomings. More or less every other small corpo that started out or is formed right now only has one goal - make money. You can't build identity on it, you are only going to acquire random people because you honestly don't care who you hire, and it will rot and die because you couldn't be assed to continue splurging money on it.

Reminder that Pippa was only brought on because Fishman didn't know what he was doing. He literally was conducting "acquire random people because you honestly don't care who you hire" and he chanced on a gold mine.
If you look at the newest gen, now that he actually cares who he hires, he will never recruit a Pippa and strive to become an idol company, and the further gens will look the same as this newest one.
The common issue with small corps are actually because they "cared about who they hire" and put all their auditionees on 4 different phase of testing/interviewing, selecting only the cream of the crop when it comes to singing/art-related talents. Instead of looking for unique/whacky people who can go viral/capture their own audience, they went into this whole streaming thing and only recruit idols whose personality are all kids-friendly.
Even hololive itself didn't start with idols (well sora kinda was borderline being one), but with mostly whacky people and neither did nijisanji.

Seems very likely related to this announcement: Globie group's gen2, a whopping 8 people.
Most people will simply ask "what the fuck is a globie?" Globie is the EN/EU branch of Brave Group, of looking at IdolEN like a tasty jewish snack fame.

They don't have any dates listed for debuts so far.

ACCELERATE

Hopefully she tries networking with VCR et all still. She could boost her popularity through them if she is not blacklisted.

Highly doubt this is the case. VCR > Holo in terms of pull. VCR doesnt give a shit if Holo decide to boycott VCR, their main pull is the e-celebs, not hololive. And this is Hololive we are talking about anyway not Nijisanji, I doubt they'd be that petty.
RIka would be an interesting case. I'd say Kson turned down collabs on her own in fear of antis hitting on the holo girls and VCR didn't want to touch the chinks either, mikeneko was a nuclear bomb who divorced one of CR founders, but mel don't really have any real reasons. Would be interesting to see how it turns out, either Hololive outted for being black all along or whatever.
Also I just noticed, of the two terminated talents from hololive (not counting the ones killed almost as they debuts), one of them is kuroneko (rica's twitter handle) and another is mikeneko. What is the resemblence, I can't tell.

 

[USS IOWA]

Wait clock me if guys talked about this already but is she going to Vshojo?

 

[RestlessRain]

All you aspiring managers out there, there is a slot for Doki to collab with the indie Vtuber of your choice.

Does Doki have a tail? Asking for a gay British vtuber friend.

 

[Slutpuppies]

Does Doki have a tail? Asking for a gay British vtuber friend.

Not currently, but I'm pretty sure her new skin suit will because birb. She is also a if your gay British vtuber friend likes those.

 

[Todd's Strongest Howard]

I keep asking, what kind of retard husband would divorce her? She's nice, fit, and plays videogames for hours. She's absolutely perfect. What husband wouldn't want to play videogames with their wife for 10 hours?

So long as she's not just dead weight, or I'd have to cut her out of my raid prog group.

Even though I'm the one that got benched.

 

[Sankisei]

Reminder that Pippa was only brought on because Fishman didn't know what he was doing. He literally was conducting "acquire random people because you honestly don't care who you hire" and he chanced on a gold mine
If you look at the newest gen, now that he actually cares who he hires, he will never recruit a Pippa and strive to become an idol company, and the further gens will look the same as this newest one.
The big problem with small corps are actually because they "cared about who they hire" but focus on the wrong thing. Instead of looking for unique/whacky people who can go viral/capture their own audience. They went into this whole streaming thing and only recruit idols. Specifically looking for people who are talented at singing/art-related skills and has a personality of a soft carpet. A pippa would get rejected by all these small corps because they cared too much about getting idols.
Even hololive itself didn't start with idols (well sora kinda was borderline being one), but with mostly whacky people and neither did nijisanji.

ACCELERATE

Highly doubt this is the case. VCR > Holo in terms of pull. VCR doesnt give a shit if Holo decide to boycott VCR, their main pull is the e-celebs, not hololive. And this is Hololive we are talking about anyway not Nijisanji, I doubt they'd be that petty.
RIka would be an interesting case. I'd say Kson turned down collabs on her own in fear of antis hitting on the holo girls and VCR didn't want to touch the chinks either, mikeneko was a nuclear bomb who divorced one of CR founders, but mel don't really have any real reasons. Would be interesting to see how it turns out, either Hololive outted for being black all along or whatever.
Also I just noticed, of the two terminated talents from hololive (not counting the ones killed almost as they debuts), one of them is kuroneko (rica's twitter handle) and another is mikeneko. What is the resemblence, I can't tell.

The only instance where Mikeneko got Blacklisted was during that Apex Legends Event and that affected all of her team

 

[frz]

The only instance where Mikeneko got Blacklisted was during that Apex Legends Event and that affected all of her team

Please remind me how many CR cups and VCR events did Mikeneko participate in. I will take even Vsaikyou, not particularly CR owned but Hal is friend with Mafumafu

 

[Bronze]

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All these items are so cute, I love unique merch. I love her, bros.

Would we take Hexa to bigger heights, or cause a Pippa collab 2.0 if we put her name?

I'm curious who will be chosen. There's a lot of people who wants to see her and Sayu, even though I'm not sure if it will happen

- There are 1:1 collabs between every new talent and all previous talents, supervised by a manager (forgot who confirmed this in a stream).

Not sure if its the exact quote, but Saya mentioned something similar

Wait clock me if guys talked about this already but is she going to Vshojo?

Wouldn't suprise me at this point. A great addition for them imo

 

[El Rrata]

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