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[GOD'S STRONGEST BUILDERBEAR]

It's always really fucking funny opening up a book with a collection of Lovecraft's stories and there's always a huge mandatory section in the preface with "So guys, Lovecraft's work is a beloved cornerstone of horror and gothic fiction second only to Edgar Allen Poe and every horror writer of today cites him as a major influence with references to his work being incredibly ubiquitous but uh...he had some strong views on races...even more so than his contemporaries. He was a Top 500 ranked competitive racist."

If a book has a footnote not made by the author, kill publisher and his entire family.

If you had something to say you'd write your own book.

 

[Empty_Inbox]

It's always really fucking funny opening up a book with a collection of Lovecraft's stories and there's always a huge mandatory section in the preface with "So guys, Lovecraft's work is a beloved cornerstone of horror and gothic fiction second only to Edgar Allen Poe and every horror writer of today cites him as a major influence with references to his work being incredibly ubiquitous but uh...he had some strong views on races...even more so than his contemporaries. He was a Top 500 ranked competitive racist."

I've heard some modern people considered Mark Twain racist, so I don't think Lovecraft note is an overreaction. Brainrot on top of ignorance, what a combination.

 

[Koronesuki]

Lovecraft's racism is what inspired most of his writing. That, and his aversion to seafood.

 

[Awoogers]

Lovecraft's racism is what inspired most of his writing. That, and his aversion to seafood.

i mean look at his cats name

 

[CalciumAnimal]

I don't know what this is (I'm one of those dirty atheists), but like the Kanye tweet about the Jews writing Martin Luther King Jr's speeches (which after looking up was a mega lol, as that seems to be true) I went ahead and clicked on the list and, kek

Peterson is a fairly well known grifter most ( i can't check everything he flipflops so much) of his stances just align with what currently most popular among his fans.

just to keep it short hes an alex jones orbiter (one of the bigger ones.... or does alex orbit him?) and they run in the same half assed circles. . If you want more in-depth on his jackassery Hbomberguy has several videos that go into his shit

i mean look at his cats name

i can't the tears in my eyes form laughter stop me every time.

 

[RestlessRain]

i mean look at his cats name

That word didn't have the negative connotation back then that it has attached to it today. The thought process was more along the lines of, "hey, this thing is dark brown or black, American Yamanba is a good nickname for it". As funny as it is to imagine Lovecraft practicing his racism by naming his cat by a slur.

For example, here's some dark tan shoe polish.

 

[agility_]

This is the only reason I visit hive cities like NYC, the used book shops. The older the version, the better.

 

[Aquatic Novellite]

That word didn't have the negative connotation back then that it has attached to it today. The thought process was more along the lines of, "hey, this thing is dark brown or black, American Yamanba is a good nickname for it". As funny as it is to imagine Lovecraft practicing his racism by naming his cat by a slur.

Conversely, Lovecraft on Cats

Between dogs and cats my degree of choice is so great that it would never occurto me to compare the two. I have no active dislike for dogs, any more than I have for monkeys,human beings, negroes, cows, sheep, or pterodactyls; but for the cat I have entertained a particularrespect and affection ever since the earliest days of my infancy.

 

[GOD'S STRONGEST BUILDERBEAR]

or pterodactyls

the fuck did THEY do to him?

 

[shipmate_F]

It's always really fucking funny opening up a book with a collection of Lovecraft's stories and there's always a huge mandatory section in the preface with "So guys, Lovecraft's work is a beloved cornerstone of horror and gothic fiction second only to Edgar Allen Poe and every horror writer of today cites him as a major influence with references to his work being incredibly ubiquitous but uh...he had some strong views on races...even more so than his contemporaries. He was a Top 500 ranked competitive racist."

And Poe diddled kids, if I remember correctly his own cousin then married her.

Virginia Eliza Poe (née Clemm; August 15, 1822 – January 30, 1847) was the wife of the American writer Edgar Allan Poe. The couple were first cousins and publicly married when Virginia Clemm was 13 and Poe was 27. Biographers disagree as to the nature of the couple's relationship. Though their marriage was loving, some biographers suggest they viewed one another more like a brother and sister. In January 1842, she contracted tuberculosis, growing worse for five years until she died of the disease at the age of 24 in the family's cottage, at that time outside New York City.

Sure, different values back then because a lot of people died by things easily treated nowadays, but that age gap still raises an eyebrow. Sometimes you need to be fucked up in the head to bring real horror.

Not knowing/not being aware is much more terrifying in my eyes, but people aren't even allowed to feel dread or ignorance anymore.

I wonder where this handholdy, pampering experience through history will lead us to. Thank god I read Mein Kampf before they started burning the copies around here.

 

[NeneLOVE]

And Poe diddled kids, if I remember correctly his own cousin then married her.

Sure, different values back then because a lot of people died by things easily treated nowadays, but that age gap still raises an eyebrow. Sometimes you need to be fucked up in the head to bring real horror.

Not knowing/not being aware is much more terrifying in my eyes, but people aren't even allowed to feel dread or ignorance anymore.

I wonder where this handholdy, pampering experience through history will lead us to. Thank god I read Mein Kampf before they started burning the copies around here.

Poe was definitely very fucked in the head.

I still do not agree with judging work SOLELY by what its author has done or said.

It's funny how all of these arguments of "Oh you know what your favorite author said/did?!?" and "everything is political" act like bringing it up adds nuance, because in some way it does expand the context of the work. But in reality these people want nothing more than to distract from the work with an ad-hominem, thus removing nuance and just making it into a game of "these people have the right opinions, these people have the wrong opinions, you're not allowed to read things made by bad people, burn the fucking books"

 

[agility_]

I once had to share a bus ride with those "everything is political!!" types of people and let me tell you, I'd rather swallow shards of glass than go through that again.

 

[God's Strongest Dragoon]

That word didn't have the negative connotation back then that it has attached to it today. The thought process was more along the lines of, "hey, this thing is dark brown or black, American Yamanba is a good nickname for it". As funny as it is to imagine Lovecraft practicing his racism by naming his cat by a slur.

For example, here's some dark tan shoe polish.
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Lovecraft was the founder of the "Don't ask a racist the race of his girlfriend" as he was racist about Jews but married a Jewish and one of his closest friends was a Jewish poet.

And Poe diddled kids, if I remember correctly his own cousin then married her.

Sure, different values back then because a lot of people died by things easily treated nowadays, but that age gap still raises an eyebrow. Sometimes you need to be fucked up in the head to bring real horror.

Not knowing/not being aware is much more terrifying in my eyes, but people aren't even allowed to feel dread or ignorance anymore.

I wonder where this handholdy, pampering experience through history will lead us to. Thank god I read Mein Kampf before they started burning the copies around here.

Oh yeah, Poe was also fucked up in the head. Doesn't stop me from enjoying his work. I still enjoy the Matrix despite the makers being literal troons. I still enjoy a lot of Kevin Spacey's films despite him being a gay rapist.

 

[NeneLOVE]

Lovecraft was the founder of the "Don't ask a racist the race of his girlfriend" as he was racist about Jews but married a Jewish and one of his closest friends was a Jewish poet.

Oh yeah, Poe was also fucked up in the head. Doesn't stop me from enjoying his work. I still enjoy the Matrix despite the makers being literal troons. I still enjoy a lot of Kevin Spacey's films despite him being a gay rapist.

Troons may be some of the most despicable people on earth with their fondness for targeting children. But it cannot be denied a lot of them are also top-tier artists, as they say, all great artists are fucked in the head in some way.

 

[Security]

I still enjoy the Matrix despite the makers being literal troons.

That came later. The time frame and incidents following the success of the Matrix and before the sequels were made are very telling of what the brothers became.

 

[CalciumAnimal]

Troons may be some of the most despicable people on earth with their fondness for targeting children. But it cannot be denied a lot of them are also top-tier artists, as they say, all great artists are fucked in the head in some way.

Replace troon with furry and then realize what you actually just said.

That came later. The time frame and incidents following the success of the Matrix and before the sequels were made are very telling of what the brothers became.

I have to actually wonder if it's them who wrote the thing or if they wrote a draft script and had a team of actual sane people go over it.

Compare even something like V For Vendetta to shit like Jupiter Ascending V speaks Poetry fluently and uses metaphors as skillfully as his knives.

Jupiter Ascending says something twice runs up to you and screams DID YOU GET IT ARE YOU SURE OK and then lobs a brick at your face just to make sure it sinks in

I don't think the trooning out has anything to do with it something was making their scripts digestible by sane human people

 

[NeneLOVE]

Replace troon with furry and then realize what you actually just said.

Furries are just paraphiliacs.

 

[Security]

Furries are just paraphiliacs.

And so are most troons?

 

[NeneLOVE]

And so are most troons?

So are you for IRC

 

[Security]

So are you for IRC

We yell at troons on IRC! We call them all the slurs! We fucking obliterate vermintide! We chew through those faggots head's like a log of wood! We give the microaggressions for daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaays!