Banter/Off-topic Thread & Community Stoning Platform

[Stunned But Dumb]

Bay Lurker agreed with this and all he does is migo half vsoyboy's posts lmfao.

 

[NeneHATE]

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My guy if you like schmoozing with chuubas that much then just become a dramatuber or male vtuber. It feels like you have two very disparate ideals/goals that do not mesh with each other whatsoever.

 

[TKN_Lurker]

After reading the last few pages of absolute cancer, I've come to the conclusion that we need to Jan 6 the fucking TVA and get someone else in charge. Jesus christ, I expected better from you Bossman. I'm so glad I never joined the hellhole that is Discord TVA. What an absolute fucking disaster.

 

[Saturnus]

I got so utterly buttblasted by a Gay German (not in the way I like btw) that I thought I could just dump a dm with him "whining" about being banned from my groomer discord server immediately the day after to get a rise out of him and get TVA back on my side like with Hexa.

tl;dr for people who don't want to read a word wall.

 

[jebby]

Let me take this opportunity to address this directly, because it's a recurrent theme I've seen developing recently.

TVA is considered a kiwifarms-adjacent doxing forum. This is our public perception. Why would a vtuber want to contact me or by extension any of us? What would motivate them to do so? They would need to, at minimum, have A) completely perfect opsec*, B) agree with what we do, C) be willing to endure backlash from anyone who disagreed with B).

* Or just not care about it.

Who in the industry is like that? I personally can't think of anybody. It is critical to grasp that every single contact I've ever gotten in the industry has been despite me owning this forum, not because of it. Every single one of them, without exception, would like me more if I deleted TVA.

I tried to give people a chance to change that perception, and that ended when the vtuber who was willing to trust us and openly interact with us got harassed and had RL pictures demanded from them, then lied about for years afterwards purely as a way to get a rise out of me personally.

The truth is that the only vtubers who were ever interested in openly interacting with TVA under the terms TVA publicly set after that incident were A) severely mentally ill*, B) terminally stupid teenagers, C) a sociopathic alcoholic who likes to ask her 500$-a-month supporters to carve her name into their arms in VC.

* Much more so than even the norm for this industry.

That was it. It took me a very long time to grasp this fact, and I am completely to blame for not doing so sooner. I was an optimist, and I was wrong.

We are not the kind of people vtubers want to interact with. We dig into their backstories, we expose their PL information, we post their faces. I know many users would absolutely go so far as to post full dox material if I let them, which is one of the only lines in the sand that I've drawn. This stance has caused me intense personal stress and misery in the past two years. My determination to not censor this place has strained my relationships with people I deeply care about. But even though I object to some of the things that are posted here, sometimes very strenuously, I will not let them be taken down or removed.

No vtuber likes this. None of them appreciate your attentions. They would all, to a woman, prefer it if this place didn't exist. Even large amounts of posts about them can indirectly cause them misery and career issues by being known as 'that vtuber the doxers like'. The ones who believe as I do are like me, in that they believe in the spirit of free speech while still objectively, tangibly suffering from the consequences of their belief in reality, because bad faith actors will incessantly use their own standards to attack them without fear of retaliation.

So to sum things up; no, me leaking the DMs of a user is not going to tangibly impact my relationship with anyone in this industry.

Running TVA does not tangibly benefit my mental health, my finances, or my social life in any capacity. It will not make me a successful career, and it will not win me friends or allies in this space. But I will run it because I fervently believe that it should exist, that it is better than the alternatives, and that history will one day prove that tiny, insignificant acts of defiance to the mainstream censorship edifice made a difference in the fight against it.

That's all I have to say on the topic, thank you for listening.

 

[RestlessRain]

After reading the last few pages of absolute cancer, I've come to the conclusion that we need to Jan 6 the fucking TVA and get someone else in charge. Jesus christ, I expected better from you Bossman. I'm so glad I never joined the hellhole that is Discord TVA. What an absolute disaster.

Slightly different viewpoint - Proctor does a good job at running the site itself. It's just that every time that we hear from the Discord, we get exposed to pure cancer. I remember the last time the Discord (derogatory) came up and I suggested getting rid of it because it provided no tangible benefit. I'm still convinced that getting rid of the Discord would solve a lot of problems.

 

[VSoyBoy]

I just want to say I don't laugh at or hate Soyboy behind his back and I think he's easily one of the better, funnier members of the forum

Bay Lurker agreed with this and all he does is migo half vsoyboy's posts lmfao.

@BASADO PLEASE FOR ONCE IN YOUR LIFE. You could do the funniest shit right now!

I'm gonna frame this:

 

[NeneHATE]

Slightly different viewpoint - Proctor does a good job at running the site itself. It's just that every time that we hear from the Discord, we get exposed to pure cancer. I remember the last time the Discord (derogatory) came up and I suggested getting rid of it because it provided no tangible benefit. I'm still convinced that getting rid of the Discord would solve a lot of problems.

I have suggested this like 50 times since about the time it stopped being just a place to call in to proc's streams.

It creates needless arguments that end up only making Proctor look worse once they get brought up over here.
It fosters a different culture and community which radically clashes with our own.
It has created an entire faction of users who hate Proctor and only seek to bitch and complain.
It brings in freaks and normies which end up being nuisances 90% of the time.
It largely includes shit like politics and other circular debate topics instead of vtubers which causes people to needlessly argue (like what got soykek banned)

 

[Just pretending]

He says right there at the top of your image (and my gallery) that women do not currently have rights - nobody does - and that democracy is a smokescreen to obfuscate the consolidation of money and power in the hands of the modern autocracy. This is a text-based medium, so I expect your reading comprehension to be a bit sharper.


no. seethe.

Holy shit, I knew that there's nothing but faggotry on the groomcord server, but I didn't realize it was so bad that it took a corporeal form and decided to post on forum!

 

[frz]

El-oh-fucking-el.

"had to have the last word" is probs the most stupid reason for ban I have ever seen.
Sounds like someone got butthurt to me.
Granted I have absolute 0 context and I won't bother finding it out about you gay ass discord shit.

 

[jebby]

I for one support our new forum couple. I’m sure @VSoyBoy was tired of being the only homo here. They could even go on double dates with the Jew and his dog!

 

[Brosnan Pierce Brosnan]

*wakes up*

Who the fuck is Alexander

*forgets about this question almost immediately*

 

[Saturnus]

I went to sleep and the autistics burned the place again, is so tiresome bro

Context for this message BTW:
(Soyfarmer is @Alexander best described by Proctor here)

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[NeneHATE]

Context for this message BTW:
(Soyfarmer is @Alexander best described by Proctor here)
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Kek, obstinate until the last man. Well, at least in this manner the discord will die one way or another.

 

[Helkar]

Context for this message BTW:
(Soyfarmer is @Alexander best described by Proctor here)
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...So why do people stay in that server? Genuine question.

 

[Brosnan Pierce Brosnan]

@RedRage
@DTrp
@famous artist pipkun
@Realticule
@Pippenis Inspector
@Would

Thoughts on the current state now. This would be fine evidence to exonerate you of your Pippism and be let loose on the rest of the site

 

[El Rrata]

@Would

...Pippism...

I resent this

 

[agility_]

Until you showed that screenshot, I thought "Alexander" was a made up entity.

 

[Brosnan Pierce Brosnan]

I resent this

Are you saying... wouldn't

 

[VSoyBoy]

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Obviously a healthy mindset to have...
Motherfucker they don't hate you whatever you do, they hate you because of what you do and how you do it. Oftentimes they don't even hate you, just the things you're doing.

Bitch I personally went to people YOU HURT with your actions to try and mend bridges. I tried to make the discord work and always put in a good word for what you do and the circumstances you do it in. I still think the people who are saying "well anybody could do it" when it comes to hosting and running the forum are retarded.
Does that sound like someone who hates you whatever you do?

Well let me tell you, I definitely hate what you're doing right now.
Look at what's happening here. Don't say the people here would hate you whatever you do, they all expressed why they hate what is happening here and you just keep going back to that fucking cope that gives you carte blanche because "the outcome will be the same anyways."