General Thread v5 Guys: MariMari_EN Edition

21st Century Pipkin Man · 2025-05-29T02:47:31-0400

Ｍｕｒｒａｙしないで said:
So I've been triple-streaming to YouTube, Kick, and Twitter for something like six months now. Some notes about Twitter streaming

The notifications for streams are also forced, as in anyone following you can't turn that shit off. It's pretty annoying.
As for the VODs, Pippa links hers in tweets and you can view them from the link. Streams from as far back as January seem to be available and the quality is good, but X is so unstable that I wouldn't use it for any kind of storage. The one thing X offers is versions of the VODs that don't have silenced or removed sections from copyright strikes, since there's no ID system in place to my knowledge - for now.

frz · 2025-05-29T03:07:00-0400

Banana Hammock said:
Have you seen Twitch before?

Anyway, I feel like Twitter streaming would be really good for discoverability. Twitter notices that you follow and like a lot of posts about vtubers or anime, so it puts a vtuber who's currently streaming on your timeline. You're just doomscrolling on your phone, so click on and watch for a minute or two to see if you like them.

I feel like youtube should be good for discoverability. They have people you subscribe to and can recommend something similar. They actually do, I get recommend 2 views all the time but people still regard youtube as having shit discoverability. Just having recommendations alone isn't enough.

Microsoft failed to take a crack at streaming. Facebook failed?succeed? at streaming. Youtube basically gave up on streaming and moved to shorts as their flagship, they no longer gave out exclusive contracts and show no sign of even attempting to fix their shitty chat. Even Twitch failed at streaming (unprofitable til infinity). Streaming as a whole isn't a great place to dip your toes in and I don't know about Muskrat sticking with streaming once the actual numbers rolled in. See how fast he dropped the hyperloop and boring company.

Twitter can take a crack at it but it won't be easy. As you can tell the average twitter activist doesn't play or watch people playing games. I can see some far right streamer like Alex Jones making it in there, but gaming will be extremely hard to sell.

Same issue Facebook streaming has, the boomers browsing that site doesn't watch games, so despite having 30%-ish share of internet watch hours, facebook streams are entirely product selling streams.

nooternun · 2025-05-29T03:13:18-0400

Azehara said:
Very cute but is this based on her design? From what I have seen whenever whales buy new looks, they only get used a few times and then the content creator gets a new model based on a design they wanted to get.

Curious who?

It's a bit late and really everyday here is schizophrenia day but

The sweet embrace of mental illness never looked so inviting.

She also finished her blog series

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nhkbook-hiraku.com

In sum she talks about loneliness and ends with basically her motto - 今日も生きていこー！！！(Let's live today too!!!)

In that honor I'll share a 2-view that is often hospitalized. She even showed her doctor her vtubing stream and was embarrassed

She has been streaming for 4 years now, being hospitalized off and on and mostly does sleep ASMR lately but anything is better then vtweeting. So everyone :kaelagshgsh!:

PleaseCheckYourReceipts · 2025-05-29T04:01:52-0400

frz said:
I feel like youtube should be good for discoverability. They have people you subscribe to and can recommend something similar. They actually do, I get recommend 2 views all the time but people still regard youtube as having shit discoverability. Just having recommendations alone isn't enough.

Microsoft failed to take a crack at streaming. Facebook failed?succeed? at streaming. Youtube basically gave up on streaming and moved to shorts as their flagship, they no longer gave out exclusive contracts and show no sign of even attempting to fix their shitty chat. Even Twitch failed at streaming (unprofitable til infinity). Streaming as a whole isn't a great place to dip your toes in and I don't know about Muskrat sticking with streaming once the actual numbers rolled in. See how fast he dropped the hyperloop and boring company.

Twitter can take a crack at it but it won't be easy. As you can tell the average twitter activist doesn't play or watch people playing games. I can see some far right streamer like Alex Jones making it in there, but gaming will be extremely hard to sell.

Same issue Facebook streaming has, the boomers browsing that site doesn't watch games, so despite having 30%-ish share of internet watch hours, facebook streams are entirely product selling streams.

Twitter already has the sidebar for Spaces, so they've got most of the discoverability setup. They just need a separate UI that you move into for the Streams specifically. They also need to hard divide the sections. Keep the explicitly News/Politics/Geopolitics segmented from the Entertainment side of things.

As for Facebook streaming, has Facebook ever stopped massively lying about their numbers? That was a huge issue back in the day.

nooternun said:
Curious who?

It's a bit late and really everyday here is schizophrenia day but

The sweet embrace of mental illness never looked so inviting.

She also finished her blog series

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In sum she talks about loneliness and ends with basically her motto - 今日も生きていこー！！！(Let's live today too!!!)

In that honor I'll share a 2-view that is often hospitalized. She even showed her doctor her vtubing stream and was embarrassed

She has been streaming for 4 years now, being hospitalized off and on and mostly does sleep ASMR lately but anything is better then vtweeting. So everyone

Aria has it rough. She's put in some insane endurance singing streams, but she's never gained that much traction. Though I think she has been streaming more on a Japanese platform. She really needed to join a small corpo.

SpringKusa · 2025-05-29T04:03:05-0400

Banana Hammock said:
Have you seen Twitch before?

Anyway, I feel like Twitter streaming would be really good for discoverability. Twitter notices that you follow and like a lot of posts about vtubers or anime, so it puts a vtuber who's currently streaming on your timeline. You're just doomscrolling on your phone, so click on and watch for a minute or two to see if you like them.

twitter cant even send me notifications when Kiara posts something reliably and shoves way too much shit I dont care about in my TL
I doubt that they even have reliable infrastructure to host lots of streams
Twitter spaces is ass, drains my phone battery faster than any game and only works with the screen on despite being Audio only, also the on Twitter chat for spaces is so ass people use the free chats on youtube to chat instead

X Streams will just be a Kick clone with Porn is my prediction

Hff201 · 2025-05-29T04:20:21-0400

X probably has the best potential for discoverability, because one of the hardest things to do as a content creator is to move people from one site to another; and since a worryingly high portion of the population are already glued to it you can skip that step entirely, since you're just firing up your stream where they already are.

The problems, though, are that a) the integration feels primitive with terrible chat features, no proper categorisation etc., and b) that Elon Musk is a fish out of water in this space. This is the guy who assumed Asmongold having "editors" meant his work was compromised by the demands of a non-existent publisher like he's a newspaper reporter, rather than that he throws cash at some dudes to clip his streams. He has absolutely no idea how things work while very confidently taking out of his arse, so any decisions he makes that he thinks will be beneficial to streamers and their audiences will be misguided at best and straight-up delusional at worst.

frz · 2025-05-29T04:35:27-0400

PleaseCheckYourReceipts said:
Facebook lying about numbers

It was proven that they lied about video views. But I don't think they ever lied about stream numbers.
I saw 5-views on twitch signed exclusive contract with facebook, streams on the thing, has like 200 CCV and 80% of the live chat are SEA/ESL names. They proceed to do 5 streams a month to fil the contract and went back to twitch after a year. If that 200 CCV was even inflated then that is sad news indeed
But the point remains that noone on facebook wanted to watch some guys playing games. And twitch/youtube viewer won't change platform for their favorite streamers.

Hff201 said:
X probably has the best potential for discoverability, because one of the hardest things to do as a content creator is to move people from one site to another; and since a worryingly high portion of the population are already glued to it you can skip that step entirely, since you're just firing up your stream where they already are.

The problems, though, are that a) the integration feels primitive with terrible chat features, no proper categorisation etc., and b) that Elon Musk is a fish out of water in this space. This is the guy who assumed Asmongold having "editors" meant his work was compromised by the demands of a non-existent publisher like he's a newspaper reporter, rather than that he throws cash at some dudes to clip his streams. He has absolutely no idea how things work while very confidently taking out of his arse, so any decisions he makes that he thinks will be beneficial to streamers and their audiences will be misguided at best and straight-up delusional at worst.

holy shit i forgot about that whole editor saga lmao

But yeah, the issue with elon musk is he is surrounded by yes man and to work with him you have to kiss his ass 24/7. Asmongold made the mistake of talking to him in a neutral/business tone and that's why Elon was so offended and he was looking for reasons to get mad.

GOD'S STRONGEST BUILDERBEAR · 2025-05-29T04:52:01-0400

frz said:
I feel like youtube should be good for discoverability. They have people you subscribe to and can recommend something similar. They actually do, I get recommend 2 views all the time but people still regard youtube as having shit discoverability. Just having recommendations alone isn't enough.

Microsoft failed to take a crack at streaming. Facebook failed?succeed? at streaming. Youtube basically gave up on streaming and moved to shorts as their flagship, they no longer gave out exclusive contracts and show no sign of even attempting to fix their shitty chat. Even Twitch failed at streaming (unprofitable til infinity). Streaming as a whole isn't a great place to dip your toes in and I don't know about Muskrat sticking with streaming once the actual numbers rolled in. See how fast he dropped the hyperloop and boring company.

Twitter can take a crack at it but it won't be easy. As you can tell the average twitter activist doesn't play or watch people playing games. I can see some far right streamer like Alex Jones making it in there, but gaming will be extremely hard to sell.

Same issue Facebook streaming has, the boomers browsing that site doesn't watch games, so despite having 30%-ish share of internet watch hours, facebook streams are entirely product selling streams.

I believe twitter has better potential at streaming just because if you could instantly post clips as a tweet that would probably be nice. Also would fill the timeline with pajeets tho so like, yea maybe not

John Vtuber👁️ · 2025-05-29T04:53:57-0400

yes but will it last longer than mixer, and who's going to be the big name signed exclusively to it (bald man excluded)

shipmate · 2025-05-29T04:58:41-0400

Freya is celebrating four years of streaming, officially vtuber hag

Molly finally started playing Look Outside after yapping for hours

More bug talk

GOD'S STRONGEST BUILDERBEAR · 2025-05-29T05:35:46-0400

John Vtuber👁️ said:
yes but will it last longer than mixer, and who's going to be the big name signed exclusively to it (bald man excluded)

With high userbase of X you dont need exclusives, you need THE exclusive, to show that platform is viable and usable

Ｍｕｒｒａｙしないで · 2025-05-29T06:49:56-0400

21st Century Pipkin Man said:
As for the VODs, Pippa links hers in tweets and you can view them from the link.

Oh, so you have to make a tweet with the stream in it in order for the VOD to be visible? That's ridiculous but I'll try it on my next stream (if I remember to).

John Vtuber👁️ said:
yes but will it last longer than mixer, and who's going to be the big name signed exclusively to it (bald man excluded)

To this day I'm stumped why Microsoft gave up so quickly on Mixer. Odysee, Rumble, and even DLive are still around, so I presume there are people who have figured out how to make a profit running them all. Surely a company with Microsoft's resources would have been able to find a way to at least break even on streaming if they gave it enough time.

Pourin' one out for stream.me though.

kushami tasukaru · 2025-05-29T06:59:20-0400

After her anniversary stream yesterday, Re:AcT's Nekono Yukino released a cover song.

Saw KMNZ being promoted so here's a karaoke stream with Nero later at 9PM JST.

Kanata on her squeezing Lize's hand (with consent).

Interesting her members also watch Lize to know about her being a rain woman. Only needs clip of the victim to complete the story.

Fubuki thinks the event itself is a success.

Ririka read a very liberal interpretation of Rousseau's interests and realised great men of history are not good men.

Looks like she read the oneshota femdom version instead of the historically approved one. Would be interesting if she asks Kiara about Mozart.

PleaseCheckYourReceipts · 2025-05-29T07:10:23-0400

GOD'S STRONGEST BUILDERBEAR said:
With high userbase of X you dont need exclusives, you need THE exclusive, to show that platform is viable and usable

Just have Asmon multi-stream there and YT. X's issue is going to be more about Interfaces that they need to work out.

PleaseCheckYourReceipts · 2025-05-29T07:13:16-0400

Ｍｕｒｒａｙしないで said:
Oh, so you have to make a tweet with the stream in it in order for the VOD to be visible? That's ridiculous but I'll try it on my next stream (if I remember to).

To this day I'm stumped why Microsoft gave up so quickly on Mixer. Odysee, Rumble, and even DLive are still around, so I presume there are people who have figured out how to make a profit running them all. Surely a company with Microsoft's resources would have been able to find a way to at least break even on streaming if they gave it enough time.

Pourin' one out for stream.me though.

With Mixer, I think the biggest mistake was their approach to try to scale the platform too early. They needed to settle out all of the platform issues, then lure talent. They actually built a great platform from an infrastructure stand point. But they were already the discount Twitch, which was already smaller than any Facebook or YT. That's what MS would have been looking at. I think if they hadn't shelled out 100 million in contracts to a couple of streamers, they'd still be around.

Actually, the head of that project is probably available if Twitter needs some help.

Ginkgo Balboa 🌾🗡 · 2025-05-29T07:16:04-0400

Tsukimi Be Streaming on YouTube

Aquatic Novellite · 2025-05-29T07:23:57-0400

Cubanodun said:
Yes, this is like the second rebrand they had, they tried to make auditions years ago, did not go anywhere, passed years going to cons in yurop selling services to vtubers like mixing music and now they are trying again

They did a Q and A last year on discord and i found them ok except the part where they are going to focus in roleplay with all the things about factions

Sadly for everyone the owner is a CHINESE

I recall the Discord glazing Variance Project to no end a while ago, while considering Sttellar Verse Productions dead in the water.

And I mean, the latter doesn't seem wrong, my own fondness of Lemi notwithstanding.

But, you know... one of them has active vtubers, and one doesn't.

NTRAntagonist · 2025-05-29T07:26:23-0400

I didn't watch ID because I used to think it meant India and it disgusted me. Jungle Asian isn't bad but... y'know... every now and then the language comes out and :amegunl:

Willemshaven · 2025-05-29T07:30:48-0400

Translated clips from Ui calling others:
Natori Sana

Kanade

Part 2

Isekai Jouchou

FuwaMoco

46gumi · 2025-05-29T07:41:57-0400

This explains his visit to Cover HQ

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