Banter/Off-topic Thread & Community Stoning Platform

httn said:

> Make an Ami thread as an example
> no one uses it
> server dies and we teleport before the threads creation
> Debate if you should make it again
> get told its pointless and no one will post in it
> make it anyway
> no one uses it
Clearly we just need one more threadsplit to bring in these mythical new users boyos.

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We need to start by splitting each corpo thread off into individual Gens and then we can let those who want to set up thread for their favorite talents. The problem with the split is that it didn't go far enough.

I Wanna Die said:

We need to start by splitting each corpo thread off into individual Gens and then we can let those who want to set up thread for their favorite talents. The problem with the split is that it didn't go far enough.

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Every user should get their own thread just to talk to themselves like entirely sane individuals. Like what's going on right now in Timeline 2434, where Pomu is still at Nijisanji, but nobody else is.

Punished Anime Discusser said:

Every user should get their own thread just to talk to themselves like entirely sane individuals

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I already do that with some of my sock accounts.

Punished Anime Discusser said:

Every user should get their own thread just to talk to themselves like entirely sane individuals.

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I already have one.

Punished Anime Discusser said:

Every user should get their own thread just to talk to themselves like entirely sane individuals. Like what's going on right now in Timeline 2434, where Pomu is still at Nijisanji, but nobody else is.

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I have experience making bait threads on /vt/, how do I qualify for schizo benefits?

I Wanna Die said:

We need to start by splitting each corpo thread off into individual Gens and then we can let those who want to set up thread for their favorite talents. The problem with the split is that it didn't go far enough.

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Unironically this.

I've made my opinions known that The Megathread is fucking stupid and isn't how a forum should operate, but this half-in half-out approach of "Well we can keep The Megathread around but we're going to create threads on corpos and talents" has actually created the Worst of Both Worlds, where you don't actually get the benefit of Megathread busting where people are drawn to the Thread List as the default first page visit, but you also inconvenience the people who want to use a Megathread-like UX where they just visit the one thread, but now it's 5 instead of 1.

Burn the ships. Thread per talent is the bare minimum of how this shit should go.

For the record, I used to think way to go would be thread-per-talent but separated into sections per major corpo, then a section for LIGs, and one for 2-views, but not anymore. I'm on board with one big Vtuber Thread List page.

If anything The Megathread now should only exist to figure out who is going to OP the talent threads.

CalciumAnimal said:

every thread needs it's own @Realticule nothing unites a thread like a mutual hatred.

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Like Proctor and the General Thread. Or Proctor and the Banter/Off-Topic thread. Or Proctor and...

Last Of The Mohicans said:

Unironically this.

I've made my opinions known that The Megathread is fucking stupid and isn't how a forum should operate, but this half-in half-out approach of "Well we can keep The Megathread around but we're going to create threads on corpos and talents" has actually created the Worst of Both Worlds, where you don't actually get the benefit of Megathread busting where people are drawn to the Thread List as the default first page visit, but you also inconvenience the people who want to use a Megathread-like UX where they just visit the one thread, but now it's 5 instead of 1.

Burn the ships. Thread per talent is the bare minimum of how this shit should go.

For the record, I used to think way to go would be thread-per-talent but separated into sections per major corpo, then a section for LIGs, and one for 2-views, but not anymore. I'm on board with one big Vtuber Thread List page.

If anything The Megathread now should only exist to figure out who is going to OP the talent threads.

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I'm going to be blunt here: this will not fucking work.

The Pippa thread works because there was already a desire to talk about Pippa in great depth grandfathered into the community before any thread splits happened. That in turn led to the eventual thread generating consistent updates and becoming a recognised 'hub' of Pippa-related conversations that encouraged new Pippa fans to join the forum because the ongoing conversations caught their interest.

There is no organic demand for similar threads. Other talents do not have this same level of interest across the current existing userbase; there is no one vtuber overwhelming the general thread to the point where non-fans are sick of them, like there was with Pippa back in the day. The majority of smaller vtubers' threads would amount to one or two guys talking to themselves and constantly doubleposting to bump the thread when something new happens, which is awkward and depressing in itself, but also offers nothing to entice fans from outside the forum to sign up and participate.

Kirsche's pretty well-liked around here and the subjects she covers on stream attract the kinds of people who would probably appreciate a more loosely-moderated platform like TVA, but even her thread moves at a snail's pace.

GOD'S STRONGEST BUILDERBEAR said:

Amiyas thread is like a cobweb in a corner. Populated by a lone spider, just kinda hanging there, theres an occasional fly or a roach or a post in it. Only exists because your too lazy to get rid if it, or cause you started to have actual feeling for a critter

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SOME PIG

@famous artist pipkun Is this you?

Hff201 said:

I'm going to be blunt here: this will not fucking work.

The Pippa thread works because there was already a desire to talk about Pippa in great depth grandfathered into the community before any thread splits happened. That in turn led to the eventual thread generating consistent updates and becoming a recognised 'hub' of Pippa-related conversations that encouraged new Pippa fans to join the forum because the ongoing conversations caught their interest.

There is no organic demand for similar threads. Other talents do not have this same level of interest across the current existing userbase; there is no one vtuber overwhelming the general thread to the point where non-fans are sick of them, like there was with Pippa back in the day. The majority of smaller vtubers' threads would amount to one or two guys talking to themselves and constantly doubleposting to bump the thread when something new happens, which is awkward and depressing in itself, but also offers nothing to entice fans from outside the forum to sign up and participate.

Kirsche's pretty well-liked around here and the subjects she covers on stream attract the kinds of people who would probably appreciate a more loosely-moderated platform like TVA, but even her thread moves at a snail's pace.

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i wish there was something better then winner to give you.

Hff201 said:

I'm going to be blunt here: this will not fucking work.

The Pippa thread works because there was already a desire to talk about Pippa in great depth grandfathered into the community before any thread splits happened. That in turn led to the eventual thread generating consistent updates and becoming a recognised 'hub' of Pippa-related conversations that encouraged new Pippa fans to join the forum because the ongoing conversations caught their interest.

There is no organic demand for similar threads. Other talents do not have this same level of interest across the current existing userbase; there is no one vtuber overwhelming the general thread to the point where non-fans are sick of them, like there was with Pippa back in the day. The majority of smaller vtubers' threads would amount to one or two guys talking to themselves and constantly doubleposting to bump the thread when something new happens, which is awkward and depressing in itself, but also offers nothing to entice fans from outside the forum to sign up and participate.

Kirsche's pretty well-liked around here and the subjects she covers on stream attract the kinds of people who would probably appreciate a more loosely-moderated platform like TVA, but even her thread moves at a snail's pace.

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^ This is what you typed.

"We need more threads, and also we need more people moving posts into said threads because despite nobody wanting to bother with any of them, the only true way to get actual attempts at discourse is to make sure everyone is spread out and unable to ever actually interact in the 70+ threads that supposedly need to exist. Pippa wasn't a special case from the start even back to annoying people on the farms with how popular she was, she was just the only person who got a thread that could force people to care about her."
This is what will be read.

The push to force people out of the general thread is a nice extra cherry on the shit sundae after telling everyone it would remain to be used as usual by those who please. Now it's not even "Can be used for people who prefer it." You need to slather several various topics that prevent it from fitting elsewhere or generic bullshit post, otherwise you'll get forced out. "The general thread should supposedly be used only for info posts or something." Why don't you make another fucking thread for general info then instead? Or does that not tickle the thread making fetish going on here?

Last Of The Mohicans said:

Unironically this.

I've made my opinions known that The Megathread is fucking stupid and isn't how a forum should operate, but this half-in half-out approach of "Well we can keep The Megathread around but we're going to create threads on corpos and talents" has actually created the Worst of Both Worlds, where you don't actually get the benefit of Megathread busting where people are drawn to the Thread List as the default first page visit, but you also inconvenience the people who want to use a Megathread-like UX where they just visit the one thread, but now it's 5 instead of 1.

Burn the ships. Thread per talent is the bare minimum of how this shit should go.

For the record, I used to think way to go would be thread-per-talent but separated into sections per major corpo, then a section for LIGs, and one for 2-views, but not anymore. I'm on board with one big Vtuber Thread List page.

If anything The Megathread now should only exist to figure out who is going to OP the talent threads.

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What kind of delusion is this.

Who tf asked for this, why are we "doing things how they should be done" instead of just, doing things that there is DEMAND FOR or are desperately needed (like the pippa thread)? Are we just imagining some utopian vision of the forum which is how we WANT it to be and ignoring the ugly undesirable reality of how IT ACTUALLY IS and how people ACTUALLY USE IT?

Ima be honest if this forum only had single talent threads I would leave right then and there, I have no interest in circlejerking over one single person, if I wanted that there are plenty of discords and /vt/ threads which focus on a single person.

Do you guys not see how INSANE this is? We have 5 people who unilaterally decided how everyone else (60+ users) is supposed to act, now that everyone vehemently hates the changes we are DOUBLING DOWN! BECAUSE WE KNOW BETTER! What? What if I managed to convince proctor that he needs to ban everyone I don't like? Isn't that cool?

NeneLOVE said:

What if I managed to convince proctor that he needs to ban everyone I don't like?

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yea no proctor only bans people that are annoying to HIM

Last Of The Mohicans said:

Unironically this.

I've made my opinions known that The Megathread is fucking stupid and isn't how a forum should operate, but this half-in half-out approach of "Well we can keep The Megathread around but we're going to create threads on corpos and talents" has actually created the Worst of Both Worlds, where you don't actually get the benefit of Megathread busting where people are drawn to the Thread List as the default first page visit, but you also inconvenience the people who want to use a Megathread-like UX where they just visit the one thread, but now it's 5 instead of 1.

Burn the ships. Thread per talent is the bare minimum of how this shit should go.

For the record, I used to think way to go would be thread-per-talent but separated into sections per major corpo, then a section for LIGs, and one for 2-views, but not anymore. I'm on board with one big Vtuber Thread List page.

If anything The Megathread now should only exist to figure out who is going to OP the talent threads.

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I dont usually call people stupid but I'm going to make my opinions know that you are stupid and merelytourist had much less retarded opinions than you do.

This place is far far far less populated than vt. There is like what? 20 actual posters? vt has thousands (literally 2nd fastest board in 4chan behind /pol/.) and in /vt/ individual talents thread dies all the fucking time.

you are basing an idea off something that may work for thousands of posters (even though it has proven to not work by real life example)

for example, one of the threads right now on /vt/ is "Rica/Mel, Choco, Aki, Roboco, Matsuri & Ririka". There is very little in common between these 6. They organically merged into 1 threads because people who talks in there also like the other talents. If they were split individually, noone would be there. There is literally real life example that individual threads does not work in a place 10000 times more populated than here.

Also what you said is not how "a forum operates". The average webforum is designed to hold at most 10 threads in 1 page. You are not describing a forum, you are describing how "a discord operates". If you have a threadmaking fetish. Do it to the groomcord, not here.

CalciumAnimal said:

i mean we can just do it again in fact I'm certain we will in ........ idk 5 minutes?

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took longer then 5 minutes but we got there

I love Scaevola hes a fucking goofball nerd

GOD'S STRONGEST BUILDERBEAR said:

I love Scaevola hes a fucking goofball nerd

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i had forgotten how good the writing on that one was.

please let the follow up be good.

NeneLOVE said:

Ima be honest if this forum only had single talent threads I would leave right then and there, I have no interest in circlejerking over one single person, if I wanted that there are plenty of discords and /vt/ threads which focus on a single person.

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Aw, don't leave. We need you to create schedules in the form of charts for our visitation to the various threads.

I'll try and keep the Lumi thread nice and tidy for visitation. Maybe greet everyone with a nice clip or something. It'll be fun times.

No, this is a really awful idea, and I have no idea how one can come to the conclusion that more specfic dead threads is what we need.

Abomination said:

I have no idea how one can come to the conclusion that more specfic dead threads is what we need.

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If I have to dissect his thinking. He likely compared us to a mega forum of thousands of user, which would have its own categories and subcategories like anime, pc gaming, where each categories has their own set of users that will never ever talk to each other. And if there is something they want to talk about, they will create new thread, and old threads will be left for dead

He goes back to our forum and thinks why is it not the same. Why is this lawless land not divided, why is everyone staying in the same place.

My final thoughts on this matter, if you want this forum to grow out of vtubing drama, then create a non-vtubing category, make a PC gaming/anime/porn/racism CATEGORY that is easily accessible from the home page, not a gaming/offtopic thread where it's hard to find, those are where you can get new users, people who have less interest in engaging in talk that already exists within the forum.

If you really want to copy those forums, then do it right, those forums don't have individual vtuber pages, and neither should we. Mods don't create threads in those forum, the user create threads in those forums and so should we. If you want growth, let it grow organically, not with an iron hand of fist. People don't enjoy getting fisted.

I know the gaming thread exists, I have talked in there before, but if you ask me how to open it without using the search button. I have 0 fucking clue where it is. I'd say there is enough interest for a gaming category to exists.