General Thread v3: The Hexagone

dumdum did nothing wrong said:

I don't watch Idol what's the tldr on Juna's beef with the company cause she seems upsetty spaghetty.

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from what I know they are very controlling over weird stuff like NO overlap and you have to stick to your schedule. you're capped on how long you can stream thanks to again the no overlap rule. Then they leave your ass to dry on projects which they encouraged you to do and helping you handle your community. The reason why the yuko stuff got so bad was thanks to them not helping with moderating and letting the coomers over take the core idol fan base because lol money even if the talent didn't want it. This was even before her long break that when she came back said no more to lewd or spicy content and it all exploded thanks to idol not doing their fucking job at the start of it all. (yes I know her /k/ friends where also being fuck heads to the boobros but the issue started before that kicked off)
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idk it just pisses me off that the staff fucked over these girls and they have to take all the scrutiny and blame.
Thanks to dumb contracts and NDAs they cant even defend themselves fully and say how they got fucked over. then even if they had legal right to whistle blow they are blacklisting themselves from a good chunk of the industry. even solo artist that would help with projects.
people need to be harder on corpo staff because they are the reason why these fuck ups happen not the Vtubers. well besides them not reading contract and getting a lawyer.
staff is why they cant stream, staff is why they could not meet the crazy donothon goals that they pushed onto them. you can still dislike the gen 1 girls but all the core issues where thanks to

BlueSharkTV said:

I guess Kronii's manager also Ina, which means she manages at least Kronii, Ina and Mumei as of now. She could also be considered one of the best HoloEN managers since she somehow managed to make sure Ina didn't kill someone in a blind rage during her Visa issues, and how she also handled a lot of the issues Kronii had with her previous manager, I think Mumei may have mentioned having an improvement with her manager but I don't remember if she mentioned anything specific outside of having 2 managers.

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Kronii finally gets a manager that isn't shit at job and still called her "hun". The disrespect is real.

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Kay Yu is a madman.

Big Pixel + V4M (and Pillow, Ayu + the store-brand Nene) collab:

El Rrata said:

Kronii finally gets a manager that isn't shit at job and still called her "hun". The disrespect is real.

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Kay Yu is a madman.

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All while not getting paid. Kay Yu is a real G for putting all this effort for a passion project. Hololive really striked lucky with all the quality fan creators they got.

Also unrelated Biboocopter.

RestlessRain said:

Idol Corp under Aviel was not financially viable, even after two years of operation, and with shit like not shipping merchandise and running on a skeleton management crew, you can't make a fair comparison of contract with Brave who is (as far as I'm aware) trying to run a legit, fully-staffed operation, and will have very different incentives for talents in its contract to what Idol Corp originally did.

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From what I'm aware of brave is basically running at a loss on VC money atm, throwing shit at the wall to see what sticks while burning money on buying brands and establishing offices and studios and debuting new vtubers as fast as possible to see if they can eventually get in the green. If the money runs out I could see them easily letting go of a bunch of the unprofitable drag and that includes idol.

wew said:

staff is why they could not meet the crazy donothon goals that they pushed onto them

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I don't know where you took it from, no one pushed anyone to set this goals as high and unreasonable as they did. As evidence, some set them very low and managed to fulfill very quickly. Some even during a donothon. Oh, and there was a bitch who had a long history of doing pump and dump, I have doubts anyone needed to actively force her

Dork

Limkin said:

I don't know where you took it from, no one pushed anyone to set this goals as high and unreasonable as they did. As evidence, some set them very low and managed to fulfill very quickly. Some even during a donothon

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Sorry I have dumb insider knowledge that sadly I cant show logs of thanks to NDA's and I wasn't given like hard copies of stuff. so no cool screenshots in my folders.
I do trust the info but like I always say feel free to take my staff hate rant with a grain of salt because its just me screaming about fuckers not doing there jobs

NEED MORE MODELS!!!!

Sankisei said:

I mean Subaru Collabed with Iroha back when she was in IRIAM as Nia Tsumugi and still got in
As for most long collab partners you have Choco and Luna who collabed a lot when she was in Nijisanji and still got in
But even if she got in i think people will just cry

NEPOTISM REEEEEE​

to the skies so they will never accept her

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I think the biggest issue is how the talents and fans have to awkwardly feign ignorance. Imagine the hypothetical scenario where Mint made it into Hololive, everyone can recognize who she is, but they have to pretend she is someone else.

wew said:

Sorry I have dumb insider knowledge that sadly I cant show logs of thanks to NDA's and I wasn't given like hard copies of stuff. so no cool screenshots in my folders.
I do trust the info but like I always say feel free to take my staff hate rant with a grain of salt because its just me screaming about fuckers not doing there jobs

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So what are the Odds wew is Juna? 60/40?

VSoyBoy said:

NEED MORE MODELS!!!!
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Of course she does. She needs a new "outfit" for when she wins Best Vtuber in the Streamer Awards.

White Stone said:

I think the biggest issue is how the talents and fans have to awkwardly feign ignorance. Imagine the hypothetical scenario where Mint made it into Hololive, everyone can recognize who she is, but they have to pretend she is someone else.

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I don't know, everyone manages to pretend they don't know who the talents used to be at Vshojo just fine.

CalciumAnimal said:

So what are the Odds wew is Juna? 60/40?

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Juna doesn't have man hands.

VSoyBoy said:

NEED MORE MODELS!!!!
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Jesus Christ. I knew she had a lot, but seeing it listed like that, she should be on hoarders I guess.....

CalciumAnimal said:

So what are the Odds wew is Juna? 60/40?

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no I'm graw gur why do you think I hate mangers so much? they wont let me stream!

Limkin said:

I would much rather trust evidence and facts than "insider knowledge". And the evidence suggests no one forced anyone

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bro I so wish I could final yab it all but I need to go huff some copium before I go insane thinking about shit

wew said:

Sorry I have dumb insider knowledge that sadly I cant show logs of thanks to NDA's and I wasn't given like hard copies of stuff. so no cool screenshots in my folders.
I do trust the info but like I always say feel free to take my staff hate rant with a grain of salt because its just me screaming about fuckers not doing there jobs

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I would much rather trust evidence and facts than "insider knowledge". And the evidence suggests no one forced anyone

Limkin said:

I would much rather trust evidence and facts than "insider knowledge". And the evidence suggests no one forced anyone

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Wew claims that management wasn't doing their job, which makes sense if Aviel was running the skeleton management crew that's been claimed before. If you don't have enough management staff, you're not going to get the approvals you need from management in a timely manner, or possibly even at all.

Notice how @wew refuses to address the hand accusation. Truly some hideous grippers they got.

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The three other ones apart from Hestia really are reincarnations, completely new accounts. Wonder who'll be behind them and if they're well known. @The Proctor probably announcement worthy.