Yeah that's what I meant by "hag" in spirit. Her taste in music and weekly karaokes singing said music is what drew me to her from debut. As my favorites in holo kind of disappeared or tastes changed, I ended up watching her more and now Roca's the only vtuber I have membership too anymore.
As others said, I thought Shiina was a real hag, or extremely close, so she'd go in the latter group. Roca's brattiness is one of her best and most fun draws though. Maybe I should check out Clara as I keep seeing stuff on her and clips that are interesting. I thought she was IdolJP, but from what I see is she mostly doing EN streams?