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She didn't release it until just now, fаggot. :mikothumbsl:

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She didn't release it until just now, fаggot. :mikothumbsl:

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Sometimes I see numbers like "2011" and think "oh just a while ago" and notice it's been 13 years.
:beataniugh:

I am once again asking how to try and prevent Hexa from posting old videos of herself IRL
Become her boyfriend, start living together, put her in a cage in the basement with a man-sized hamster wheel for exercise and a faucet for water. Only let her stream under supervision and reward a good stream with food. Take her on a date once a month to keep the menhera away.
 

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I am once again asking how to try and prevent Hexa from posting old videos of herself IRL
She's not going to be happy unless she puts her address in each of her twitch streams.
 

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She's not going to be happy unless she puts her address in each of her twitch streams.
She just accidentally uploaded the uncensored version to youtube. She's lucky it was set to premiere, but she still showed her face on the thumbnail. I can't with this woman. :Vesper-UNHINGED:
 

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Become her boyfriend, start living together, put her in a cage in the basement with a man-sized hamster wheel for exercise and a faucet for water. Only let her stream under supervision and reward a good stream with food. Take her on a date once a month to keep the menhera away.
I guess I can take one for the team... :smugmoona:
 

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Sometimes I see numbers like "2011" and think "oh just a while ago" and notice it's been 13 years.
:beataniugh:
GET DUSTED! GET DUSTED! GET DUSTED!
 

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Oh for fuck's sake. :depressedtako:
If there was ever a time for an oil baron to not show up, it is now.
 

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Oh for fuck's sake. :depressedtako:
If there was ever a time for an oil baron to not show up, it is now.
If you didn't want this to happen, why immediately post it here so we can go and buy memberships?
 

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naganon

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If you didn't want this to happen, why immediately post it here so we can go and buy memberships?
I post interesting Hexa happenings. And I trust most people here would not spend 2500 dollars for a stomach picture.
 

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Oh for fuck's sake. :depressedtako:
If there was ever a time for an oil baron to not show up, it is now.

...are you sure I don't have to 1v1 you at the waffle house parking lot?
 

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Look what was just made public for 24 hours:



Midnight Grand Orchestra Vol. 1, that's what.

22 more hours to go.

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I much prefer the recent live concert for the audience hype and the ability to incorporate the cool visual effects still since it's one of the main core in mgo's performances (the style of music they're aiming for mgo seems to be more experimental in contrast to Suisei's usual music so most of the songs stood out more when it's being performed), but this one is good for an introductory session + the visual effects are more enhanced due to it being mostly greenscreen stage with zero restriction

Anyway happy 2nd anniversary to Midnight Grand Orchestra!
Here's hoping it could go on even as a side passion project, I really enjoy the different vibe it gives compared to the regular Suichan music :sanasmile:
 
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Oh for fuck's sake. :depressedtako:
If there was ever a time for an oil baron to not show up, it is now.

Is this happening because she took her mom to the ER and now she has a debt of 5K dollars or something like that?
I'm not paranoid am I?
 

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One look at Twitch tells me otherwise


Well, the main point of the video is that 90% of vtubers out there are not fit to be a corpo vtuber, which I very much agree with
and its also a propaganda piece for Indie groups like Vdere, which are just as good as Corpos but without the negatives

I will admit to closing the video pretty quickly, but I'm with the majority here who feel that corpos continue to be at the forefront, and that at the very least it's a more nuanced topic.

Independent EN vtubing is 50% a Hololive cargo cult, and 49% just the Twitch fleshstreamer meta. There's plenty of low level creativity on all sides, but neither meta is particularly forward looking. I actually think looking at EN vtubing at all for new things is a mistake, in the JP world C-list celebs are going vtuber, and in the KR world they've invented entire genres of virtual influencers that have nothing to do with streaming. Just to name two examples that I'm aware of. It's far more likely EN vtubing gets blindsided by trends from elsewhere than setting the trends.

The one area where I will give EN vtubing credit is use of the character outside of streaming/videos, especially in fan work. This is a special characteristic of a vtuber that's difficult for other influencers to replicate. EN artists, game devs, and animators are on the forefront here compared to their international counterparts. But most of this happens in the corpo sphere where brand power drives awareness of the characters.


That really hammers home the advantages big corpos have over big indies. Not only in brand power, but monetarily. Sure, someone like Filian can get together a team, 100k worth of sponsors, and months of her sweat and tears, to make The Vtuber Awards. But Cover can run a 30k 3d live every single week, and get 86k people to each pay $30 for their expo... the scale of money and of monetary risk just isn't the same. Also, the creative risk in doing something different can be shuffled into a side project that doesn't directly affect the participating talent, whereas an indie usually takes that risk on the chin. If all corpos did was just stream the meta, then I wouldn't talk them up, but the industry leader is clearly doing more, and pulling other large and medium corpos in their direction.


All that said it's a false dichotomy to say either corpos or indies are the future, we are in a place where many corpo vtubers thrive, but it's also possible to succeed big as an indie. The reasons for an already successful vtuber (eg. someone over the initial hump with high dozens to low hundreds of viewers) to remain indie or go corpo seem pretty balanced to me, and depend on exactly where they want to take their content in the future, and what work they want to take on themselves vs giving up freedoms and income to have some kind of organic support. There are still plenty of opportunities the biggest corpos can offer their talents that the biggest indies can't easily access. And big indies can still put together their own structures to support their content and monetization... it just takes a lot of personal work.

Maybe the point here is that we're finally moving out of the Hololive cargo cult era where startup corpos that failed to be Hololive 2.0 are going bust, and where corpos that fail to deliver on any supposed advantages will bleed talent. Maybe there will be more indies who aren't thinking of a golden ticket in EN4, or who have been burned in the process of chasing it. But if going indie was the most viable route for more unique creators, then 2023 success stories Fuwamoco, Henya, or Pippa wouldn't exist.
 
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