General Thread v2: Enhanced Segregation Techniques!

naganon · Mar 18, 2024

Bronze said:
Poyo says she'll delete her account. Earlier, she stated her dislike about AkioAir discussion/stream LM had(tweets are in the relevant thread).

poyo 【V-Tomo】 on X: "deleting this account in a week 🩷 sorry for being so sudden. finishing my last cmm then leaving for good. it's taxing mentally to feel like i will constantly be associated with one thing that happened to be in the past. i'm sorry

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LM lost any goodwill he might have had from me when he banned Megu and deleted (and possibly banned) the slightest negative comment.

NotDecatto · Mar 18, 2024

Time to cash in some checks.

Seth · Mar 18, 2024

naganon said:
LM lost any goodwill he might have had from me when he banned Megu and deleted (and possibly banned) the slightest negative comment.

Wait the guy banned from his stream a vtuber that was directly involved?

Kourai · Mar 18, 2024

mismatch said:
Someday I want the posters on this forum to make a list of the things that a vtuber can do to be labelled a whore. Or maybe a list of all the things that won't get them labelled a whore, since i'm pretty sure that's a shorter list.

Cross-quoting from the Holofes thread. I know most of this was shitposting, but I've had an essay bouncing around my head for a while.

Some thousands of pages ago there was a discussion about C.S. Lewis and how he described the four loves: storge, philia, eros, and agape. The first three loves can have proper and improper objects and expressions.

Storge is affection, especially for people, animals, places, or things you are familiar with. Philia is friendship, developed over something you have in common with someone else. Eros is the love which desires to be one with the other, to have them belong solely and fully to you and you to them. It is closely intertwined with, but ultimately distinct from physical desire. Why is this important?

Coomtubers evoke lust. GFE/BFE evokes eros. The Oldest Profession sells both, but it is very possible to sell more of one than the other. This is how Rushia could be the queen of GFE while not being half as sexual as many of her colleagues. In contrast, the "honest whore" archetype is the type that sells primarily lust.

I reserve GFE/BFE to refer to Vtubers who deliberately evoke parasocial eros in their viewers. "Deliberately" is important; there are many men who mistake any feeling they have about an anime woman as the result of an appeal to lust or to eros, who then either delude themselves that they "have a chance", or seethe about fake whores preying on men. Both are dumb. Reasonable people can still disagree about what evokes eros; but certainly wedding ring merch is much more deliberate than after-stream goodnight kisses.

As parasociality works both ways, I think some Vtubers do feel misguided eros for their viewers. That is, if their idealised mental image of their chat existed as a single person without every chatter's actual flaws, they would marry that person, much like some chat members fantasise about them.

I consider unicorns to be vastly overlapping, but also ultimately distinct from GFE-seeking. I have no essay about that yet.

46gumi · Mar 18, 2024

Holopro will be having a regular talk show with some of their talents featuring various Seiyuus. Also, it looks like the seiyuus will be having their own VTuber avatar for the program.

Bronze · Mar 18, 2024

Seth said:
Wait the guy banned from his stream a vtuber that was directly involved?

Seems so. Murray's informative post in the thread mentions it

Megumi Kuragiri/Teyra Fenthera was present in the chat during the stream and raised concerns with some of the issues in the stream, but eventually would be banned from the chat by Andrew or one of his mods. In response to a superchat bringing to his attention that Megu was in chat (1:10:55), he says that people who has concerns with his content should email him so they can have an off-stream discussion. "I'm not getting in a back-and-forth with people in the chat. I know that chat kind of likes to try to derail things, or people want to derail things. I don't do that on my channel."

Svarog · Mar 18, 2024

Onolumi live

Sheep released new cover

Sweet home Alabama

Laidho · Mar 18, 2024

naganon said:
LM lost any goodwill he might have had from me when he banned Megu and deleted (and possibly banned) the slightest negative comment.

Wait, what. How did that happen? Did Megu call him mean names or something in a Twitter direct message?

RestlessRain · Mar 18, 2024

Dawifet · Mar 18, 2024

46gumi said:
Hololive will be having a regular talk show with some of their talents featuring various Seiyuus. Also, it looks like the seiyuus will be having their own VTuber avatar for the program.

Give IRyS her Ishida Akira collab Cover sama

Svarog · Mar 18, 2024

Mashiro Yuki's singing and guitar playing stream №186

Zephyrianna's cover recording stream (stream public, vod members only)

Xuhle · Mar 18, 2024

Bronze said:
Seems so. Murray's informative post in the thread mentions it

Honestly his entire stream for this seemed weird. Not just due to the shortness of it as he was under a time crunch of needing to catch a flight. He's done plenty before when he was streaming about Disney, but he still puts in plenty of information about law and other legal issues. Also he typically differs to his guest if they are experts on a subject, but something about this seemed off.

Like just some things I noticed that seemed off he wasn't coming in with as much legal issues that he could gather from girls statements, focused almost solely on the minor issues, and the entire cutout of the pseudo manager. Even his dismissal of megu was out of character for what he typically does if someone is running into issues.

But what I know I'm just her to defend as something is even off for me. :mikothumbsl:

El Rrata · Mar 18, 2024

Xuhle said:
Honestly his entire stream for this seemed weird. Not just due to the shortness of it as he was under a time crunch of needing to catch a flight. He's done plenty before when he was streaming about Disney, but he still puts in plenty of information about law and other legal issues. Also he typically differs to his guest if they are experts on a subject, but something about this seemed off.

Like just some things I noticed that seemed off he wasn't coming in with as much legal issues that he could gather from girls statements, focused almost solely on the minor issues, and the entire cutout of the pseudo manager. Even his dismissal of megu was out of character for what he typically does if someone is running into issues.

But what I know I'm just her to defend as something is even off for me.

Simple Answer:

Limkin · Mar 18, 2024

Xuhle said:
Honestly his entire stream for this seemed weird. Not just due to the shortness of it as he was under a time crunch of needing to catch a flight. He's done plenty before when he was streaming about Disney, but he still puts in plenty of information about law and other legal issues. Also he typically differs to his guest if they are experts on a subject, but something about this seemed off.

Like just some things I noticed that seemed off he wasn't coming in with as much legal issues that he could gather from girls statements, focused almost solely on the minor issues, and the entire cutout of the pseudo manager. Even his dismissal of megu was out of character for what he typically does if someone is running into issues.

But what I know I'm just her to defend as something is even off for me.

Or you could just call him a dramaYamanba. Much shorter, simpler, and describes him perfectly

Xuhle · Mar 18, 2024

The Rrat said:
Simple Answer:

Limkin said:
Or you could just call him a dramaYamanba. Much shorter, simpler, and describes him perfectly

Call him whatever you want I'm just saying it's weird even from his Disney streams.

Seth · Mar 18, 2024

Xuhle said:
Honestly his entire stream for this seemed weird. Not just due to the shortness of it as he was under a time crunch of needing to catch a flight. He's done plenty before when he was streaming about Disney, but he still puts in plenty of information about law and other legal issues. Also he typically differs to his guest if they are experts on a subject, but something about this seemed off.

Like just some things I noticed that seemed off he wasn't coming in with as much legal issues that he could gather from girls statements, focused almost solely on the minor issues, and the entire cutout of the pseudo manager. Even his dismissal of megu was out of character for what he typically does if someone is running into issues.

But what I know I'm just her to defend as something is even off for me.

frz · Mar 18, 2024

Xuhle said:
Honestly his entire stream for this seemed weird. Not just due to the shortness of it as he was under a time crunch of needing to catch a flight. He's done plenty before when he was streaming about Disney, but he still puts in plenty of information about law and other legal issues. Also he typically differs to his guest if they are experts on a subject, but something about this seemed off.

Like just some things I noticed that seemed off he wasn't coming in with as much legal issues that he could gather from girls statements, focused almost solely on the minor issues, and the entire cutout of the pseudo manager. Even his dismissal of megu was out of character for what he typically does if someone is running into issues.

But what I know I'm just her to defend as something is even off for me.

there are plenty of thing to simp for in this world
But simping for a drama niggẻr is :vesperfacepalm:

Your entire argument boils down to "he is not usually like this". Why do I need to care if he's on some kind of male period.
Fact is dude was petty and didn't want his views challenged and banned relevant parties from talking
Even if he's no longer on that period tomorrow or yesterday, doesn't change the fact that he banned megu today.

This is like saying "normally nijisanji livers doesn't kill themselves, I dont know what is off with riku today please forgive him"
Or "normally, froot doesn't throw her friend under the bus and she normally donate to charity, ignore this one instance please"

IT DOESN'T FUCKING MATTER WHAT'S OFF WITH HIM. If he wasn't comfortable with streaming, maybe don't fucking stream
The guy is a grifter who cares more about farming superchat than the situation itself. If it wasn't really evident after his 4th 7 hours stream. And what is it now? His 2000 hours in despite provided nothing of value outside of his 2nd stream? He's a react andy who doesn't even want to react to megu.

Bro literally spelled it out for you "this megu guy is making me lose super chat, pm me please so my audience can super chat me more" and you still can't read between the lines.

Saturnus · Mar 18, 2024

kushami tasukaru said:
I posted a clip of Shishio Chris earlier, she's graduating in May 2024 and her socials will only remain until the end of June 2024.

The only one left from the original Sugar Lyric trio will be Rene...

Nigel Nigerman · Mar 18, 2024

Xuhle said:
Honestly his entire stream for this seemed weird. Not just due to the shortness of it as he was under a time crunch of needing to catch a flight. He's done plenty before when he was streaming about Disney, but he still puts in plenty of information about law and other legal issues. Also he typically differs to his guest if they are experts on a subject, but something about this seemed off.

Like just some things I noticed that seemed off he wasn't coming in with as much legal issues that he could gather from girls statements, focused almost solely on the minor issues, and the entire cutout of the pseudo manager. Even his dismissal of megu was out of character for what he typically does if someone is running into issues.

But what I know I'm just her to defend as something is even off for me.

When your lawyer oshi is just a typical Youtube content grifter. That does suck sometimes.

Also...

Limkin · Mar 18, 2024

frzned said:
The guy is a grifter who cares more about farming superchat than the situation itself. If it wasn't really evident after his 4th 7 hours stream. And what is it now? His 2000 hours into this situation despite provided nothing of value outside of his 2nd stream?

Which could've been reduced to posting pdf of a document with parts that would expose the source removed.
The whole "are they contractors or employees" is entirely irrelevant, as the only one to decide it is a judge. So unless someone from Niji decides to sue the company over mistreatment due to legal status, it's a pointless discussion

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