Vidya Games Thread

[PleaseCheckYourReceipts]

There's another problem, Denuvo. Took Eternal 3 years to remove it. Given the steep spec requirements, that's not gonna bode well for sales down the line.

The problem with the always on Raytracing is that the RT engines in everything but the current gen GPUs induces a lot of delay. The GPUs are constantly waiting on data, which leads to a lot more hitches and radically limits top level FPS. I also really question how well it runs on laptops with Nvidia GPUs, because of that issue. And, in an era of high refresh desktop monitors, not being able to get it over 120 FPS seems odd.

It is actually a very well optimized engine, but the game needs to run on a NVMe drive, as well. So it's going to have a lot more people unable to run it well, which adds up on discussions. And they're used to the iDtech engine doing like 300 FPS if you turn everything down, but that doesn't work with always on RT. It's more of a Console type of game, as a result, functionally.

Even with all that, the blow up with Mick Gordon is the elephant in the room. It killed the hype before the game was released. There's a whole world of "offline vibe networking" people have forgotten how to understand exists.

 

[Zizara]

Every clip I see makes me wanna play it more, but my machine can't run it I'm afraid.

It seems fun enough, but the streamers I've watched play it have all struggled with it cooking their PC's, so...

 

[MrProcessor]

What the fuck, I love Fortnite now!

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" - Asked someone if they like Chun-Li's ass"
That was a rhetorical question, there's only one correct answer.

 

[Smelliest007]

" - Asked someone if they like Chun-Li's ass"
That was a rhetorical question, there's only one correct answer.

I’m more partial to Cammy’s to be blunt.

 

[Punished Anime Discusser]

The problem with the always on Raytracing is that the RT engines in everything but the current gen GPUs induces a lot of delay. The GPUs are constantly waiting on data, which leads to a lot more hitches and radically limits top level FPS. I also really question how well it runs on laptops with Nvidia GPUs, because of that issue. And, in an era of high refresh desktop monitors, not being able to get it over 120 FPS seems odd.

It is actually a very well optimized engine, but the game needs to run on a NVMe drive, as well. So it's going to have a lot more people unable to run it well, which adds up on discussions. And they're used to the iDtech engine doing like 300 FPS if you turn everything down, but that doesn't work with always on RT. It's more of a Console type of game, as a result, functionally.

Even with all that, the blow up with Mick Gordon is the elephant in the room. It killed the hype before the game was released. There's a whole world of "offline vibe networking" people have forgotten how to understand exists.

Another frustrating part of always-on raytracing is that at low settings (which you're going to be stuck on if you don't want to shell out $700+ for the latest Nvidia fire hazard) it looks objectively worse and has more rendering issues than regular lighting. You get situations where if you move or turn quickly or jigglepeek a box or something, you see the shadows literally generating in front of you. You get rooms rapidly changing their entire atmosphere cause you looked away for a split second and the GPU hurt itself in confusion and generated a different lighting set for the exact same room, and then it realized it fucked up and literally pops in the correct lighting in front of you. It runs awfully, it's ugly, and it only exists so devs don't have to manually do lighting or give a fuck anymore.

 

[Stunned But Dumb]

I’m more partial to Cammy’s to be blunt.

Cammyfan how I miss you...

 

[Kazuma]

I’m more partial to Cammy’s to be blunt.

 

[Thomas Talus]

They're wholly owned by Sony, who bought them for over 3 Billion USD. A huge portion of internal firings is to allow more of that purchase price to go to top execs. "New" Bungie brought a few Microsoft execs over, and they slowly ran out all of the founders of Bungie over the course of several years.

It's not made the money they've wanted it to make for 5+ years. It's been closer to the 300 million per year than the 1 billion per year they thought it should be doing.

Bungie didn't have the revenue to be other 3 Billion. Sony paid at least 2x what the company was worth, but it was private at the time. So we don't have a full understanding of the finances.

There was talk a while back about Bungie execs likely misrepresenting their numbers to Sony in the runup to the buyout.

For all that Destiny has been one step ahead of the reaper for a long time, it's also been the rare survivor in a genre that has seen a ton of AAA studios crash and burn trying to get into, and yet execs can't stop chasing that dream.

 

[Security]

For all that Destiny has been one step ahead of the reaper for a long time, it's also been the rare survivor in a genre that has seen a ton of AAA studios crash and burn trying to get into, and yet execs can't stop chasing that dream.

Oh God it's MMOs all over again.

 

[CalciumAnimal]

There was talk a while back about Bungie execs likely misrepresenting their numbers to Sony in the runup to the buyout.

For all that Destiny has been one step ahead of the reaper for a long time, it's also been the rare survivor in a genre that has seen a ton of AAA studios crash and burn trying to get into, and yet execs can't stop chasing that dream.

It's continued survival is an exception to the rule. if it was owned by anyone other then bungie riding high off destiny 1 with big promises their acuminated goodwill could cushion the broken dreams and failure.

that and it actually does have single player content well content that you don't entirely need a team for (like wireframe)

 

[Punished Anime Discusser]

It's continued survival is an exception to the rule. if it was owned by anyone other then bungie riding high off destiny 1 with big promises their acuminated goodwill could cushion the broken dreams and failure.

Yeah, they're riding high off of accumulated goodwill from a game that (checks notes) had an incredibly lukewarm reception on launch and infinite drama over The Taken King being a $60 expansion you needed to buy to fix the game and keep playing things you already paid for, which then also introduced really jewish microtransactions. Do you get off on making absolute statements on things you know jack shit about?

 

[God's Strongest Dragoon]

Do you get off on making absolute statements on things you know jack shit about?

He's Canadian, so yes.