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The Virtual Asylum Gets First Hitpiece, VICE Attempts Chuubagate

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Unfortunately Kirsche while I think has a solid case due to the fuckery VICE pulled has more to lose. Namely a lawsuit will most likely fully dox her. I know you can file it under a John/Jane Doe alias but maintaining that in a drawn out legal fight is not good odds.

That, and Vice will be chomping at the bit to "unmask" her, so if she chooses to go forward, then she should aim for damages that would ensure she never has to work another day in her life!
 

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He says after incessantly tweeting about Kirsche for months and @-ing her sponsors.

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Interesting timing to want to shut up, Bint.

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Binted, because I know you're reading this site and possibly this thread; I just wanted you to know I and possibly other users here on the TVA never intended to ruin your life or harass you. I just wish for you to know some kind of shame and/or guilt for being a SEA creature tweeting for the entirety of the day into the night over issues that do not affect you in your mudhut. The consequences of your actions should affect you. Even if they do not, I am using my native American raindance magic to conjure a typhoon to rival the storms on Jupiter to hit all of SEA right now.
 

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Binted, because I know you're reading this site and possibly this thread; I just wanted you to know I and possibly other users here on the TVA never intended to ruin your life or harass you. I just wish for you to know some kind of shame and/or guilt for being a SEA creature tweeting for the entirety of the day into the night over issues that do not affect you in your mudhut. The consequences of your actions should affect you. Even if they do not, I am using my native American Indian magic to conjure a typhoon to rival the storms on Jupiter to hit all of SEA right now.
Hitting Moona's Moonas and @Awoogers isnt worth trying to get the 30k tweet wonder, man
 

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Hitting Moona's Moonas and @Awoogers isnt worth trying to get the 30k tweet wonder, man
HItting Moona's Moonas with enough water to win every wet T-Shirt contest on the planet simultaneously is worth it even if no cowardly SEAcreatures are hit at all, desu.
 

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HItting Moona's Moonas with enough water to win every wet T-Shirt contest on the planet simultaneously is worth it even if no cowardly SEAcreatures are hit at all, desu.
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HItting Moona's Moonas with enough water to win every wet T-Shirt contest on the planet simultaneously is worth it even if no cowardly SEAcreatures are hit at all, desu.
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Void Scribas

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He says after incessantly tweeting about Kirsche for months and @-ing her sponsors.

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Interesting timing to want to shut up, Bint.

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Lol dude doesn't even want to be used as a witness.

Realistically, the main problem is that in the case of libel and defamation, Kirsche will have a problem because of her being a public figure.


Now, in the regard, generally defamation lawsuit can work on public figures if the defamatory claim becomes more specific and centered on actions.

FOR EXAMPLE:

“Proctor is a Nazi” is a very general and ambiguous claim

“Proctor asked his followers to harass this jew vtuber” Now that is very specific and can be called defamatory, is something that if you are going to say you need to have proof of it.

With that in mind, I don't think Valens saying “Kirsche is Nazi” itself could be accepted as a defamatory claim by a court, because of Kirsche public figure status allowing people to say shitty ambiguous things about them.

On the other hand, Valens did this:

"Kirsche, has sent her following after me" - Acussation of Kirsche of a direct action, no ambigous characterizations like " Kirsche is a nazi"

in what moment Kirsche said "Go to Ana Valens and harass her"? - no evidence of Kirsche doing that - A lie

Also she @ the sponsors with the lie, intent to directly harm Kirsche in an economic sense?

Now that is an accusation of a very specific action. Valens provides zero evidence of Kirsche asking her followers to harass the Fall Guys weirdo,

MORE IMPORTANTLY, Valens @ the sponsors with that lie. It could be claimed that Valens wanted to cause economic damage with that action and fuck with Kirsches economic contracts. Could be considered tortious interference?? Perhaps because of the lie and the direct messaging to the sponsors, but is not that clear either because at the time I'm writing this both of the sponsors Valens messaged with that tweets are still with Kirsche.

Honestly, I don't know the jurisprudence regarding the situation where someone tries to fuck with your sponsorship contract with lies, but fails, if that is still actionable in a civil lawsuit. That something that I hope Kirsche legal team is smart enough to try to investigate. Valens should pray that Gamersupps doesn't drop Kirsche because of those tweets tagging them with the lie of Kirsche asking her followers to harass.

Crime Boss in that regard is complicated because no Valens or Bint contact them or @ on Twitter (or at least there is no evidence of it). I mention this because part of what a public figure doing defamation lawsuit needs to do is “outline both the reasons why they believe the defendant acted with actual malice, and the exact ways in which they suffered economic harm” and prove a connection, that Valens directly try to contact Crime Boss devs to make them drop Kirsche.

It is with Crime Boss that Kirsche suffered some form of economic harm, but because in a court the devs could claim they were acting on their own reacting to public information, it makes the case kind of hard for the foxu.

Honestly, I think Kirsche did right in the sense of making clear that if these continue it could end in legal actions, but at THIS TIME I see the future of any legal action that could be taken with what happened now uncertain. Now if Valens continues doing shit like telling the lie of “Kirsche, has sent her following after me” while tagging her sponsors and such a sponsor that was @ by Valens drops Kirsche then foxu would have a stronger claim.
 

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What happened to Ku Klux Kirsche?

Bint? More like Get Bent. Ha!
 

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Now that is an accusation of a very specific action. Valens provides zero evidence of Kirsche asking her followers to harass the Fall Guys weirdo,
Valens? Oh, you mean Phil Wythe.
 

Void Scribas

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What happened to Ku Klux Kirsche?

Bint? More like Get Bent. Ha!

Like let's be honest, I think everyone is just tired, even Bint and Valens, of course, they could end all of this by stopping posting bullshit about vtubers
 

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“Proctor is a Nazi” is a very general and ambiguous claim

“Proctor asked his followers to harass this jew vtuber” Now that is very specific and can be called defamatory, is something that if you are going to say you need to have proof of it.

With that in mind, I don't think Valens saying “Kirsche is Nazi” itself could be accepted as a defamatory claim by a court, because of Kirsche public figure status allowing people to say shitty ambiguous things about them.
I think it still could be presented as concrete claim. And funny story, to defend against "x is a nazi", they would have to prove in court that the word "nazi" actually doesn't mean anything anymore.
 

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Like let's be honest, I think everyone is just tired, even Bint and Valens, of course, they could end all of this by stopping posting bullshit about vtubers
The energy conveniently ran out when they stopped getting ass pats and the fear of actual consequences came knocking
 

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These all have archives but i can't be arsed to grab them right now. i feel drained and exhausted from resisting the urge to resort to SHOUTY CAPS for that entire twitter post. I'm sure @thhrang or @reinigen can provide them + more.

i'm going to bed

I tried fighting this kind of cancer off my anime spaces to no avail more than a decade ago, unfortunately the only thing people can do today is isolate them out of the proper otaku fans by exposing these freaks.
Good stuff Bossman, thanks for the service from the groomcord members.
 

Xuhle

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What happened to Ku Klux Kirsche?

Bint? More like Get Bent. Ha!
Think the bint in his skull popped back for a moment. Maybe we should just call him Bogus Binted as he doesn't have any actual truth on his side.
 

Phantasm

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Think the bint in his skull popped back for a moment. Maybe we should just call him Bogus Binted as he doesn't have any actual truth on his side.
No thanks that femboy would probably love having a nickname like that just for the link to Gigi
 

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Think the bint in his skull popped back for a moment. Maybe we should just call him Bogus Binted as he doesn't have any actual truth on his side.
Just use his name as a pejorative at this point, so whenever someone is being a disingenuous prick tell them they're being a Bint. It has a certain ring to it even.
 

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Maybe I'm just blackpilled about public figures trying to lawsuit journalists but I don't really think this is a good move by Kirsche. Basically her entire circle of collab partners, sponsors, and friends already know her political opinions and she isn't likely to see much actual harm to her business from the Vice shit imo. I simply think the lawsuit will damage her more than the articles *and* she'll be out a ton of money along with her anonymity that she has somehow managed to keep. Valens is more likely to just get bored and either do something really stupid like go after Phase or Mythic, or just drop it altogether and go back to gooning,
 

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Cunt. I bet you like 5 people in total will dm him.

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