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Brosnan Pierce Brosnan

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I know exactly how impactful Arkham was i had the stats page up. However people still talk about it and it gets ported often enough.

The only time i hear people talk about Gears is when they talk about popular games. that's its impact it sold a lot. i jumped out of my skin when i saw there were 5 games not 3 like i thought though i would prolly chalk that up to epic being shit rather then anything else.

Popularity is difficult to measure you seem to know this which is why i talked about units sold and mentioned that games like fable which sold less had a larger lasting impact.

I think the only legacy GoW gave us was contributing to the life of the piss filter. :smugpipi:
THe Arkham example is odd because Microsoft simply doesn't have a history of porting that game. If we want to talk real impact we would talk about COD 4 and 4 2 which got what one re-release? Or Black Ops which to my knowledge has never gotten a re-release. Plus you had 5 Arkham games iirc (not counting Suicide squad) and out of those I remember City being the big one that kept getting the releases

You keep bringing up Fable which seems odd to me as I remember when the first Fable came out it started to dismantle Molyneuxs image. And while people remember the first one fondly it didn't sell systems. And then 2 came out and was ok while the general response to 3 was that it was a huge disappointment. Fable as a series was almost and I mean that "almost" gaslighten into popularity. It did ok but it wasn't.

You can track the rise of the 360 starting with Oblivion and GRAW. Then Gears of War, Vegas and Dead Rising cemented that. The train kept rolling with Asscreed, Mass Effect, Halo 3 and COD4. The problem is that Vegas, GRAW and Gears are dudebro games which the press and Microsoft have tried to eliminate ever since the Kinect. All of these games (except AssCreed) are much more important than Fable in this case. People remember Fable because it was more mass market, but at no point was it more successful than any of those other games.
 

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THe Arkham example is odd because Microsoft simply doesn't have a history of porting that game. If we want to talk real impact we would talk about COD 4 and 4 2 which got what one re-release? Or Black Ops which to my knowledge has never gotten a re-release. Plus you had 5 Arkham games iirc (not counting Suicide squad) and out of those I remember City being the big one that kept getting the releases

You keep bringing up Fable which seems odd to me as I remember when the first Fable came out it started to dismantle Molyneuxs image. And while people remember the first one fondly it didn't sell systems. And then 2 came out and was ok while the general response to 3 was that it was a huge disappointment. Fable as a series was almost and I mean that "almost" gaslighten into popularity. It did ok but it wasn't.

You can track the rise of the 360 starting with Oblivion and GRAW. Then Gears of War, Vegas and Dead Rising cemented that. The train kept rolling with Asscreed, Mass Effect, Halo 3 and COD4. The problem is that Vegas, GRAW and Gears are dudebro games which the press and Microsoft have tried to eliminate ever since the Kinect. All of these games (except AssCreed) are much more important than Fable in this case. People remember Fable because it was more mass market, but at no point was it more successful than any of those other games.
It got ported to switch tho? I assume the rest are incoming? Meh i picked it at random so maybe your right in that it's just a bad example.

I am speaking of games people will still bring up. this is the only conversation ive had in the last i wanna say 4 years were someone has mentioned GoW. I didn't want to talk about CoD because it's big yes but it's also like 10% of Xbox's games by it's self and also stupid similar while also being vastly different from it's self it's like the video game equivalent of tv static

Also while i'm here Fable is not what turned Molyneux into a pariah not even fable 3 did that. It was his general attitude and stupid shit he said that tipped people off which i believe eventually prompted the creation of Peter Molydeux parody twitter account.

But im going way off tangent agree to disagree?
 

Brosnan Pierce Brosnan

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Also while i'm here Fable is not what turned Molyneux into a pariah not even fable 3 did that. It was his general attitude and stupid shit he said that tipped people off which i believe eventually prompted the creation of Peter Molydeux parody twitter account.

But im going way off tangent agree to disagree?
It's not necessarily what turned him into a pariah but it was the first sign of big cracks, that became canyons with Milo and then broke apart completely with Godus. Fable was essentially ground zero of "oh this guy might be full of shit". If you watch old videos of Fable and Fable 2 development specifically you will hear a ton of feature creep that he would talk about that would just be completely absent from the final products. They are quite amusing to watch
 

God's Strongest Dragoon

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GG Microsoft. It's like they hate the series that defined the 360
GoW came and went, it wasn't even in the top 5 series that defined the 360. The 360 had Fallout 3/New Vegas, Halo 3/Reach, Dead Rising 1/2, TES Oblivion/Skyrim, CoD 4/WaW/MW2/BLOPS, Mass Effect 1/2/3, GTA4, and Dead Space 1/2. Gears of War's only real legacy was being one of the first big exclusive games for the Xbox 360 but at the same time, Oblivion, Dead Rising, and F.E.A.R. all came out before it.

GoW's relevance died when Halo 3 came out and completely dominated the scene with CoD4 picking up momentum a few months after that. Meanwhile GoW2 was quietly forgotten as it came out in the same year as GTA4, Fallout 3, Fable 2, CoD: WaW, and Left 4 Dead. Whatever relevance GoW2 had was completely dead within the year when MW2 came out and was the biggest game of all time. GoW3 was instantly forgotten because Battlefield 3 came out a month later.

GoW isn't some random small title but calling it the defining series of the 360 is hilariously off mark when that series was constantly getting overshadowed and forgotten. The most memorable thing about GoW was the Mad World trailer because that shit was everywhere.
 

Smelliest007

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GoW came and went, it wasn't even in the top 5 series that defined the 360. The 360 had Fallout 3/New Vegas, Halo 3/Reach, Dead Rising 1/2, TES Oblivion/Skyrim, CoD 4/WaW/MW2/BLOPS, Mass Effect 1/2/3, GTA4, and Dead Space 1/2. Gears of War's only real legacy was being one of the first big exclusive games for the Xbox 360 but at the same time, Oblivion, Dead Rising, and F.E.A.R. all came out before it.

GoW's relevance died when Halo 3 came out and completely dominated the scene with CoD4 picking up momentum a few months after that. Meanwhile GoW2 was quietly forgotten as it came out in the same year as GTA4, Fallout 3, Fable 2, CoD: WaW, and Left 4 Dead. Whatever relevance GoW2 had was completely dead within the year when MW2 came out and was the biggest game of all time. GoW3 was instantly forgotten because Battlefield 3 came out a month later.

GoW isn't some random small title but calling it the defining series of the 360 is hilariously off mark when that series was constantly getting overshadowed and forgotten. The most memorable thing about GoW was the Mad World trailer because that shit was everywhere.
GoW was good for cooping on the couch or linking your 360s. But then it was overshadowed by as you said Halo 3, and then ODST for that couch coop goodness.
 

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Gears of war determined every upcoming shooter for nearly a decade to adopt some form of cover-system.
I would say that is the most horrifying of influences: being copied by everyone. Mass effect began as a KOTOR style rpg and by ME3 it was an unrecognizable cover shooter with really fast multiplayer.
 

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The fact Looking Glass died shows there is no justice in gaming
 

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Tango Gameworks* Westwood* Raven* Id* Arcane* Toys for Bob*

shall i go on?
Forgot Clover Studios, SNK (multiple times) and Tri-Ace (also multiple times).
 

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Apparently Kingmakers is suppose to come out in Early Access at some point this month. The devs updated the expected release date to "Q2 2025" while the devs said back in March they have an internal date planned for May but it could come out in June. Turns out its going to run on Unreal 4, not Unreal 5, because they tried out Unreal 5.1 and Unreal 5.3 and neither can compare to how Unreal 4 runs performance-wise for the physics they're planning on utilizing. They've also announced it will allow up to 4 player co-op. The way they explained it sounds like you don't have to be all fighting for the same side, so players could be competing each other as they run their own armies.

 

John Vtuber👁️

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Apparently Kingmakers is suppose to come out in Early Access at some point this month. The devs updated the expected release date to "Q2 2025" while the devs said back in March they have an internal date planned for May but it could come out in June. Turns out its going to run on Unreal 4, not Unreal 5, because they tried out Unreal 5.1 and Unreal 5.3 and neither can compare to how Unreal 4 runs performance-wise for the physics they're planning on utilizing. They've also announced it will allow up to 4 player co-op. The way they explained it sounds like you don't have to be all fighting for the same side, so players could be competing each other as they run their own armies.



I've been looking forward to this game for a hot minute, because heavy artillery vs medieval army is such a fun idea that I'm surprised more developers don't go for it. Open up modding, let players have fun with it to see just how ridiculous they can make it, and they'll have long-term success - alongside the various Anime Military vs Anime Fantasy mods, of course.

At this point, any developer choosing Unreal Engine 4 over 5 gains infinitely more consumer trust with their product, because it would actually play well at all!

In other news, Stellaris DLC dropped the other day! Bad news is, Stellaris 4.0 also dropped, and it's bad, man:



Please look forward to how Paradox treats EU5!
 

God's Strongest Dragoon

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At this point, any developer choosing Unreal Engine 4 over 5 gains infinitely more consumer trust with their product, because it would actually play well at all!
I watched a dev talk from them a year ago and it was pretty fascinating. They did all sorts of tricks to get this shit working and just outright said "nah, fuck lumen, fuck global illumination, fuck nanite, we want this shit to run at 60fps". Apparently it can run on the Steamdeck and they never actually planned for that, one of the playtesters just informed them it does.

Please look forward to how Paradox treats EU5!
>CK3 releases with many features missing and the DLC is immensely annoying trash that makes the game worse
>Viccy 3 supposedly is turbo fucked with many systems just being dogshit
>Cities Skylines 2 is somehow monetized even worse than all other games so far and still runs like shit after 1.5 years
>Stellaris DLCs have been batting like .125 in terms of good DLC

I have already mentally squared away that EU5 and Prison Architect 2 are going to be dogshit
 

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>CK3 releases with many features missing and the DLC is immensely annoying trash that makes the game worse
>Viccy 3 supposedly is turbo fucked with many systems just being dogshit
>Cities Skylines 2 is somehow monetized even worse than all other games so far and still runs like shit after 1.5 years
>Stellaris DLCs have been batting like .125 in terms of good DLC

I have already mentally squared away that EU5 and Prison Architect 2 are going to be dogshit
EVEN more Paradox Ls? Just how is this company still alive?
 

CalciumAnimal

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EVEN more Paradox Ls? Just how is this company still alive?
because they are literally the only market for Strategy games. it's hard to kill a monopoly since 100% of the market is their profit.
 

God's Strongest Dragoon

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EVEN more Paradox Ls? Just how is this company still alive?
Because they price their DLCs very aggressively and plenty of retards will buy it all despite the past 4 DLCs turning out to be dogshit. I stopped playing Crusader Kings 3 after the 1-2 punch of absolute horseshit that was the Royale Court and the Fate of Iberia DLCs. Apparently that was a good idea because they supposedly redid that awful Struggle system from the Iberia DLC for their Persia DLC while their Legends of the Dead DLC, which was suppose to handle plagues, was such dogshit that its sitting at a 31% review score.
 

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>CK3 releases with many features missing and the DLC is immensely annoying trash that makes the game worse
I haven't kept up with CK3, have the DLCs been that bad? I loved CK2, only thing towards the end I hated was Conclave because of how all nations would drift towards elective type successions with it.
 
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EVEN more Paradox Ls? Just how is this company still alive?
The DLCs alone pay their payroll and bills. They make Namco blush in terms of shamelessness.
 

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Only cinematic. I liked it but showing crackheads and crime in a GTA game is like showing a car has four wheels.

On the other side of the river:


Two million in two weeks. This game will scoop all awards and this time, it's deserved.
 

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At this point, I'm playing Paradox games for the modding communities, mostly complete overhauls (with the exception of Stellaris and its one million fractured mods). Here is a short-list from my own rotation, mostly fantasy overhauls and Todd Howard IP, which had to be cut down in recent years of Alt-History modders taking the stunning and brave stances against "literal Nazis, guys, believe me" in the "community". So if you're wondering "where is [X] mod/overhaul" on the list, just assume it's for said political brainrot getting to them!

Honorary mention to "The Fire Rises", which somehow has the terminally online going "this is literal fascist propaganda", despite...well, just look at it! Anyone who takes it as a serious political propaganda piece needs extensive mental help!

Crusader Kings III:
Elder Kings 2
Godherja: The Dying World

Victoria 3:
Manaflow: Ankaris Arrival
Realms of Exether

Europa Universalis 4:
MEIOU and Taxes v3.0
Anbennar: A Fantasy Total Conversion
My Little Anbennar: Friendship is Magic (April Fools joke made permanent, with help from the EaW team)

Hearts of Iron IV:
Old World Blues
The Fire Rises
Kaiserreich
Equestria at War (meme choice, but surprisingly well-designed, what the fuck!)
 
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