General Thread v4mirai: Brought to you by Brave

[Ginkgo Balboa 🌾🗡]

*Meets me once*
*Says he had the scariest moment of his life*

I guess you successfully snuck in a a GPS tracker on him?

 

[NeneLOVE]

*Meets me once*
*Says he had the scariest moment of his life*

Did he let you suck his virtual peener?

 

[Zyklon Mag]

Did he let you suck his virtual peener?

I had no such lecherous intentions! At least two people brought their dakis to the con/M&G though. And someone apparently pointed a gun at Bettel

 

[MerelyTourist]

Shondo taking a depression break

Ali having her period

 

[John Vtuber👁️]

Limbus Company maintenance is soon for the weekly bug fix, so I'm going to cope by binging Tenma and Hime's vods while waiting

Catch the tail-end of Tenma attempting to finish Canto VI before maintenance:



...But the real question is, how much further will the Project Moon brainrot spread?

 

[frz]

How much money does Brave have to be buying up all these companies. It boggles my mind on the rate and amount of companies they've bought

Basically 5 times that of Vshojo

Honestly kind of horrifying how one shit org has managed to buy up the competition. This cannot be viable long term

But enough about VShojo

 

[God's Strongest Dragoon]

Shiina continuing her Arkham City playthrough at the top of the hour

 

[dumdum did nothing wrong]

Move over Onigiri Lumi is gonna be my new cook streamer.

 

[dkn2038]

Move over Onigiri Lumi is gonna be my new cook streamer.

is lumi good at burning rice?

 

[Aquatic Novellite]

Shiina continuing her Arkham City playthrough at the top of the hour

That thumbnail...

One of these days she'll go peak bee and do a Bee Movie watchalong.

 

[bothyourhouses]

*Looks at Disney, Alphabet, Meta, Amazon, Microsoft, Sony*
You sure?

Those companies do things that you have to be big to do. Other than marketing, you can get everything you need to vtube within one person's credit card limit; with the current market new corpos spend a huge amount on advertising, but that's partly because there are still hundreds of them.

So the only way I can see a handful of big corps dominating vtubing is if viewers decide that's what they want to watch. Which is admittedly all too plausible.

 

[MR.T800]

Shondo taking a depression break

Ali having her period

Spoiler: WHO COULD'VE DONE THIS?

 

[NeneLOVE]

Those companies do things that you have to be big to do. Other than marketing, you can get everything you need to vtube within one person's credit card limit; with the current market new corpos spend a huge amount on advertising, but that's partly because there are still hundreds of them.

So the only way I can see a handful of big corps dominating vtubing is if viewers decide that's what they want to watch. Which is admittedly all too plausible.

You don't have to "See" anything, Holo and Niji have dominated the market since 2019 and still hold an overwhelming duopoly in every category. Viewership, sponsors, number of talents, CCV, subs, revenue, scale of operations, events, basically everything. Brave is just buying their way into the third spot by acquiring VSPO and now Neoporte, everything else they own amounts to pennies.

What Brave is doing discourages competition, it actively kills new opponents.

 

[RestlessRain]

 

[Smelliest007]

Sharks and automatons don’t belong in the forest.

 

[Todd's Strongest Howard]

A couple of retards playing newest FOTM slop.

Doki: "Okay guys, selfie protip: If you take a picture from a high angle it's more flattering."

Curious. How would you know the Fat Girl Angle, Doki?

 

[BioBreak]

Sharks and automatons don’t belong in the forest.

Gura lost her favorite green woman and she's trying out the new one.

 

[NeneLOVE]

Gura lost her favorite green woman and she's trying out the new one.

Cecilia pairs well with sassy lolis.

 

[dkn2038]

Gura lost her favorite green woman and she's trying out the new one.

if she asks for a new green woman replacement, Cecilia will die and reincarnate as a pink hair menhera

 

[Aquatic Novellite]

You don't have to "See" anything, Holo and Niji have dominated the market since 2019 and still hold an overwhelming duopoly in every category. Viewership, sponsors, number of talents, CCV, subs, revenue, scale of operations, events, basically everything. Brave is just buying their way into the third spot by acquiring VSPO and now Neoporte, everything else they own amounts to pennies.

What Brave is doing discourages competition, it actively kills new opponents.

Dunno.

• Brave isn't buying up innovative breakout startups, it's buying up retirement homes and failed projects desperate for a way to recoup their losses. The competition it kills was never competition, it were just Brave like startups with less money and zero innovation
• meanwhile, vtubing's focus on corpos is an aberration as is, caused by the initially high tech barrier preventing indy approach that fleshstreaming had
• but with the cost of entry dropping, the corporate model makes less and less sense. Holo and Niji have their inertia keeping them up, Holo also heavily invests in events where the cost of entry remains high enough that indies can't easily compete. Even so, both have been bleeding established members in the past year, who then proceeded to indy it up.
• corpos lacking Holo's and Niji's inertia and events keep folding left and right, the window of opportunity has closed
• all that differentiates Brave from these failed corpos is that Brave can hold out longer

On this basis, I'd argue that whether a startup is a part of Brave Group or independent doesn't make much, if any difference. It's all the same regardless.

There arguably are still ways to succeed as a corporate endeavour. Isegye Idol went with a strict limit on size and putting out high quality events very quickly (and benefitted from a rather undersupplied market which it promptly cornered in '21 & '22, which is why this is still arguable).

But the way Brave is doing it?

Honestly, it reminds me a bit of Upd8, which also hired a zillion vtubers on a worldwwide basis (not many corpos to buy out back then), only to fall flat on its face.